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Sasha Matu
Sietch Jacurutu
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Posted - 2012.06.08 11:18:00 -
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Last few weeks I've been gathering info about markets, trading, hauling and read a lot on these forums and was wondering one last thing.
When does a ganker consider you a target? I know never to fly what you can't afford to lose and an align time as fast as possible minimizes the window of opportunity. But at how much isk worth of goods in relation to the EHP of your ship and the bulk of the cargo does it become profittable to gank my ship?
Im starting off with my trading using a Mammoth after which im scaling up to a Orca and/or Freighter. I'm not asking for fitting advice, they're there purely to give an idea of EHP.
Last thing. Does the kind of cargo matter for a ganker? Low volume and high value are more interesting then high volume low value items I reckon. But are certain items highly sought after or doesn't it matter a whole lot?
Thank you for your feedback. |
Sasha Matu
Sietch Jacurutu
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Posted - 2012.06.08 12:19:00 -
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Well if you're ganking to make a profit there must be a point where you decide that's it worth getting blown up for.
If you want to blow up say a orca with a certain EHP you need to bring enough dps to bear before getting blown up by Concord. If the ganking ship costs more than you could possibly earn from my cargo, then I'm at least "safe" from smart gankers.
Griefers are gonne grieve and the world is filled with dumb people, I'm just trying to minimalize the risk. I know I can't mitigate it entirely. Hell I don't even want to, that's what makes Eve fun. |
Sasha Matu
Sietch Jacurutu
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Posted - 2012.06.08 12:26:00 -
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That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out : What does it cost to gank a mammoth, orca or freighter 
The reason why I'm in a hauler in the first place is because I'm not a combat pilot, so got little experience in ganking. And was hoping for some rough numbers to keep in mind when filling my hold. |
Sasha Matu
Sietch Jacurutu
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Posted - 2012.06.08 14:01:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Andy DelGardo wrote:
Get to the Orca, put any valuable stuff in the Corp hangar. Install a DCU2 and Bulks in the low slots, while using 1xEM, 1xAdap and 1x XL new shield boosters.
Active tank. 
That was my first thought as well but how long does the tank have to last? Was planning on passive tanking anyway, but hey while im asking anyway :) |
Sasha Matu
Sietch Jacurutu
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Posted - 2012.06.08 14:16:00 -
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I'm not using a cloaky hauler because I want to trade in bulk. Besides hauling in hi sec with a orca is prefectly plausible as long you don't put too much eggs in one basket. High profit = high risk. So I wanna maximize my profit while keeping the risk below the treshold of being a juicy target.
Did try to find ganked orca kills but only found one kill (which probably is a WT kill and not a gank) on eve-kill.net (nice site btw) and none on Battleclinic. Does anyone have a kill to share? |
Sasha Matu
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Posted - 2012.06.08 14:27:00 -
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Red Frog is using a basic rule of thumb of 1 bill Isk worth of goods. So I was goign to use that as a basis. But I was interested in the mechanics behind it. That and the field has changed with the coming of tier 3 BC's.
Besides the pro's a freighter, offers the Orca me more utility and I'm not rich enough nor planning on making enough Isk to earn the investment back to go and buy both ships. |
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