Aphoticus
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Posted - 2009.10.22 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Aphoticus on 22/10/2009 17:45:59 Edited by: Aphoticus on 22/10/2009 17:44:52 A think a more simplified version would follow this logic:
1.) Salvage has no ownership because Concord provides no law of ownership. 2.) Loot in wrecks have ownership rights according to concord laws. 3.) Balanced. Loot is Owned, Salvage is not.
Another Logical look at it from an individual item perspective.
Loot:
Already has ownership, so to balance that concept out, at what point should it be considered abandoned? That is the simplest thing to consider. When you leave grid, turn in the mission? Or when the bounty is deposited?
I vote for when you turn in the mission and the bounty is deposited (for missions with Bounty) as you are declaring the activity (mission, assignment) complete; concord laws states, wreck is abandoned if not claimed within this period.
Salvage:
No ownership for salvage (as it doesn't exist until someone with skill attempts to extract it). It is a derelict wreck in space, first come first server. How do you balance that? Sounds balanced right off the bat, no one has claim until they claim it.
Claiming a wreck? Is that the simplest solution? And then when does said claim expire? When the wreck (loot) is abandoned from turning in a mission (bounty collected)?
There they are tied together into one cohesive law.
Allow wrecks to be claimed during the mission. Wrecks. Not loot, not salvage, the whole stupid wreck, you are there, you have a stake in the wreck. If anyone tampers with the wreck in any way, while you have claim, then it's ON.
Once a set of conditions are met, that claim is nullified as it is considered an abandoned wreck.
Those conditions:
1.) If bounty is awarded, it must be deposited in the wallet (this signifies Concords agreement that the offending parties have been neutralized). 2.) You turn in the mission (this tells the agent that the mission is done and that all corporate/private rights to the locale are no longer sanctioned by Concord.
That is it.
Once the above conditions are meet, the wrecks are free for alls (loot included).
Pros and Cons:
Time to salvage while mission is still active is lengthened (no MWD around) and the timer is ticking for getting that secondary reward.
Ninja salvagers and looters can pick out wrecks in space that have been flagged abandoned and their time is lengthened as they have to scan down the missioner and wait to see what they do - if they leave, and they monitor the wrecks, and they become abandoned, they know they are ripe for the pickings.
Outside the above conditions and pros and cons, the fight is on if wrecks are molested in what boils down to a corporate/privatized ownership of a particularly Concord Sanctioned action in space.
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