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Sontar
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:30:00 -
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I'm quite sad that it has come to this, but lets have a brief review. There's probably very few independent miners that have not lost at least one and perhaps several mining barges. Speaking out in the forums just seems to make things worse. CCP has shown no inclination to help the miners. The Goonies are making a ton of money supplying new hulks, and so have no incentive to stop the so-called permageddon.
There are many who say words to the effect, "Well, instead do this or that or something else." That's all well and good, but I for one WANT to mine. i enjoy it (sad, I know) and I have no desire to pvp.
After reviewing the salient facts, I have come to the conclusion that the only option remaining is to vote with my wallet, and as a result, my 2 accounts are now cancelled. Sure, that's just a drop in the proverbial bucket, but I doubt I'm the first to leave over this, nor do I think I shall be the last. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1396
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:31:00 -
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we're truly sorry to see your alt depart new eden The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
474
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:31:00 -
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Quote:CCP has shown no inclination to help the miners.
Good and bye. Hope you enjoy your next game. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:31:00 -
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Learn to play, not afk.
That kind of rhymed... Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
169
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:33:00 -
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You should help yourself. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
75
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:35:00 -
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I'm sorry to hear you're leaving and wish you well in any future MMOs you try.
D3F4ULT wrote:Learn to play, not afk.
That kind of rhymed... It rhymed quite well, and is catchy to boot. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Price Check Aisle3
88
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:37:00 -
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Here's hoping the OP actually quits and isn't just teasing us. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:39:00 -
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I too am quite sad it has come to this.
I....I...*sniff* don't care... |
D3F4ULT
89
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:39:00 -
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Let me give you a basic economic lesson.
Supply and Demand. You supply, but what creates demand?
Destruction.
Thus in the complex world of econ* you lose ships, add risk, difficulty of moving/producing and you get the prices that make it all worth it in the end.
Thus, risk vs reward. The less risk, the less you're going to make, the less it makes sense to do. But it's okay since you can't wrap your poor little mining head around this. Even I am a 4 year veteran miner and understand this. EVE is not for everybody. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
172
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:40:00 -
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Miners mine so I don't have to. It's a loss to Eve. Why can't 1337 forum pvpers leave instead? Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
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Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:42:00 -
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The OP is the reason I beat my kids. No way will I allow them to grow up to be such softwilled, politically correct pussies that write whine threads on the internet.
Well, the neighbors kids, I don't have my own, and usually because they keep walking on my lawn and letting their dog **** in my grass. Then I don't usually beat them, just chase them with a broom. Even then It's really more like yelling "get of my lawn you ******* brats!". Except I live in my parents basement, and the neighbors don't have kids, and I never leave my room. And by basement I mean a closet in a halfway house. |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
94
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:44:00 -
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http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2009/06/theonionjohnsonandjohnsonspoofat580.jpg "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
293
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:44:00 -
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Is throwing on a few invulnerability fields on your hulk's empty mid slots and throwing a large shield transporter on your orca alt really that difficult?
I don't think you "get" EVE or CCP. EVE is a harsh world and CCP's motto is HTFU. They really don't care about whiners whining and then leaving. If they removed pvp from high sec you'd just whine about something else tomorrow and ragequit. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
591
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:49:00 -
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If you know what you're doing, mining now is more profitable then it has ever been since the early days of EVE.
Any miner not able to take advantage of this, doesn't deserve to.
Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1418
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:50:00 -
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More asteroids for me then |
Tallon Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:51:00 -
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Join Goonswarm and you can come mine in the glorious safety of 0.0 space.
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Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1088
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:53:00 -
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Who is your goon main?
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:04:00 -
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every miner who does not adapt to the new environment wouldn't last three hours during the zombie apocalypse Follow me on twitter |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:06:00 -
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HVAC Repairman wrote:every miner who does not adapt to the new environment wouldn't last three hours during the zombie apocalypse
You give them to much credit, sir. |
Moonasha
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
68
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:07:00 -
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Find a corp and mine in a group you anti social twit |
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Raekek
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:08:00 -
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Sontar wrote:I for one WANT to mine. i enjoy it (sad, I know) and I have no desire to pvp.
Sorry, but this is impossible unless mining is the only activity that you've experienced in the game. I could see a player mining every once in a while for some stress-less ISK making.
Have you ever tried anything other than mining? If not, saying that you have no desire to pvp is like saying you don't like a type of food, even though you have never eaten that food type in your life. Hop into an empty jump clone an insured t1 frigate and do something different. Take a risk.
The simple act of running from and outsmarting gate campers is 10,000x more exciting than mining. You don't even have to fire a gun and you're already having more fun! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1008
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:09:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Learn to play, not afk.
That kind of rhymed... It rhymed quite well, and is catchy to boot. That's actually really nice.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
474
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:11:00 -
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I am outraged and have canceled all 0 of my mining accounts in protest. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD |
Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
53
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:23:00 -
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We are into the second page of this thread and no one has claimed your stuff...
So... your stuff, I can has? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1008
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:30:00 -
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So, uh, has the fishing succeeded in pulling up any miner tears? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
330
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Posted - 2012.06.08 22:03:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Let me give you a basic economic lesson.
Supply and Demand. You supply, but what creates demand?
Destruction.
Thus in the complex world of econ* you lose ships, add risk, difficulty of moving/producing and you get the prices that make it all worth it in the end.
Thus, risk vs reward. The less risk, the less you're going to make, the less it makes sense to do. But it's okay since you can't wrap your poor little mining head around this. Even I am a 4 year veteran miner and understand this. EVE is not for everybody.
Gosh, so charming and helpful. No wonder this game is doing so well with such swell folks like you here. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1198
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Posted - 2012.06.08 22:21:00 -
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Sontar wrote:I'm quite sad that it has come to this, but lets have a brief review. There's probably very few independent miners that have not lost at least one and perhaps several mining barges. Speaking out in the forums just seems to make things worse. CCP has shown no inclination to help the miners. The Goonies are making a ton of money supplying new hulks, and so have no incentive to stop the so-called permageddon.
There are many who say words to the effect, "Well, instead do this or that or something else." That's all well and good, but I for one WANT to mine. i enjoy it (sad, I know) and I have no desire to pvp.
After reviewing the salient facts, I have come to the conclusion that the only option remaining is to vote with my wallet, and as a result, my 2 accounts are now cancelled. Sure, that's just a drop in the proverbial bucket, but I doubt I'm the first to leave over this, nor do I think I shall be the last. I too am mad about losing less than 500m ISK worth of ships, and shall unsub all my accounts from this cold, dark sandbox MMO because the operators refuse to protect me against the actions of others.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
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