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Avan Sercedos
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.10.07 19:49:00 -
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Confirming that I securing my place in history by sniping the second page
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Java Hun
Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.
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Posted - 2009.10.07 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Spectre3353 World of Warcraft
Hah.
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.07 20:13:00 -
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Hey Mash. Thanks for the response. Here are my counters:
Originally by: Mashashige 1. Pirate CSM candidates have (by past experience) been failures (i.e lark).
I don't feel that it is fair in any way to compare me to other candidates that I have no relation to other than the fact that we have a similar playstyle. Additionally, it seems like Lark was doing a fine job until he made one silly and big mistake that ruined it all.
Originally by: Mashashige 2. Python/Spec, from my personal knowledge, are a pretty ****ty example of pirates. They are a nice group of people (mostly), and def. know how to have a good time - but if we look at what defines most successful pirates in eve, Python/Spec will be lacking.
I'm not totally sure what me or my corp being "examples of pirates" or "successful pirates" has to do with me being an effective or successful member of the CSM. That being said, both of those terms/descriptions are totally subjective. To me, by far, the most important thing for me and my corp to get out of Eve is FUN. There are other things that get weighed in but this is and has always been the number one most important factor. Judging by the fact that we have a lot of fun, I would say we are successful pirates.
Originally by: Mashashige 3. Spec are a good political, granted - but some of his advocated changes/improvements reek of either hypocrisy/bull**** fillers. "* Encouraging Tactics Beyond Blobbing and Camping" is a nice saying, but when Spec/Python spend 90% of you time ingame either engaging at uneven odds (you being favorites) or camping the Jel gate, I worry that you'll be unable to offer any new insight/ideas regarding other tactics - especially since you seem to rather stay docked than undock and try other methods (that ARE possible in this iteration of the game) of gameplay except blobing/gatecamping.
My corp respects the capabilities of your corp quite a bit. You are well equipped, well led (tactically) and smart, thus we generally try not to throw our ships away at you unless we feel we have a chance. If you look at the engagements we normally get into and the amount of ships we lose (away from our encounters with just your corp) you will see that what you're saying is pretty much completely untrue.
As far as camping gates, why wouldn't we? Or any other "pirates" for that matter? Part of the problem with lowsec right now is that it is the most effective way to make money and get kills. This is a problem that I understand very well as you just pointed out because I deal with it myself. I don't want my corp or any other corps to have to continue to resort to large gangs and gatecamping because roaming or small gangs have been obsoleted by speed/agility changes and other factors that make it extremely difficult/cost inefficient to roam around.
Originally by: Mashashige Also, although its not a "proper" reason - from my "interactions" with spec in game, I find him to be not just a whinny little *****, but also a sad example of a guy that would resort to looking up what his opponents do in RL for the purpose of having ammo in a local smack war. And honestly, as much as I like metagaming/spying/corpthieves/etc - attacking someone by using his RL in a game is kinda poor taste to say the least - and Id rather not have someone like that represent my needs/wants (especially if said person actually has to work with CCP).
Smack in local is part of the game and 95% of people take it in stride and with good humor. I know that I do. You and your corpmates unfortunately seem to take it very seriously and if it really caused you that much personal hurt then I do apologize.
Originally by: Mashashige Be it as it may, even if my personal reasons to dislike Spec are irrelevant to most of you - unless he can prove he's serious about improving the game and not just ****ing around like lark did - Id place my vote with someone else, and I'd suggest other people do the same.
I appreciate your honesty. Thanks ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog |
Logit Probit
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Posted - 2009.10.07 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Spectre3353
What Improvements/Changes Am I Advocating?
* Encouraging Tactics Beyond Blobbing and Camping
Spectre, I am interested on hearing your ideas regarding this. I am skeptical, to say the least, that anything could change the predominance of these two tactics. Please elaborate on how you think alternative tactics could be made viable in lowsec.
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Bfoster
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.07 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mashashige
1. Pirate CSM candidates have (by past experience) been failures (i.e lark).
Wow.. Can't believe you are judging one person, buy another one's actions. Don't even wanna get started on that topic.
Originally by: Mashashige
2. Python/Spec, from my personal knowledge, are a pretty ****ty example of pirates. They are a nice group of people (mostly), and def. know how to have a good time - but if we look at what defines most successful pirates in eve, Python/Spec will be lacking.
Coming from you, I am not surprised you said something like this. I have significantly cut back my eve time. Why? Cause this game has gotten pretty boring. I am hoping somebody like Spec talks some sense into CCP to make low sec/small gang pvp a little more enjoyable, and worth the time away from my family. Because this is a GAME and I want to HAVE A GOOD TIME while I play it.
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.10.07 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Logit Probit
Originally by: Spectre3353
What Improvements/Changes Am I Advocating?
* Encouraging Tactics Beyond Blobbing and Camping
Spectre, I am interested on hearing your ideas regarding this. I am skeptical, to say the least, that anything could change the predominance of these two tactics. Please elaborate on how you think alternative tactics could be made viable in lowsec.
I too would love to hear this.
Pick Three: Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success |
Dirty Sue
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Posted - 2009.10.07 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Mashashige You would have my vote, had not for the following reasons:
1. Pirate CSM candidates have (by past experience) been failures (i.e lark). 2. Python/Spec, from my personal knowledge, are a pretty ****ty example of pirates. They are a nice group of people (mostly), and def. know how to have a good time - but if we look at what defines most successful pirates in eve, Python/Spec will be lacking. 3. Spec are a good political, granted - but some of his advocated changes/improvements reek of either hypocrisy/bull**** fillers. "* Encouraging Tactics Beyond Blobbing and Camping" is a nice saying, but when Spec/Python spend 90% of you time ingame either engaging at uneven odds (you being favorites) or camping the Jel gate, I worry that you'll be unable to offer any new insight/ideas regarding other tactics - especially since you seem to rather stay docked than undock and try other methods (that ARE possible in this iteration of the game) of gameplay except blobing/gatecamping.
Also, although its not a "proper" reason - from my "interactions" with spec in game, I find him to be not just a whinny little *****, but also a sad example of a guy that would resort to looking up what his opponents do in RL for the purpose of having ammo in a local smack war. And honestly, as much as I like metagaming/spying/corpthieves/etc - attacking someone by using his RL in a game is kinda poor taste to say the least - and Id rather not have someone like that represent my needs/wants (especially if said person actually has to work with CCP).
Be it as it may, even if my personal reasons to dislike Spec are irrelevant to most of you - unless he can prove he's serious about improving the game and not just ****ing around like lark did - Id place my vote with someone else, and I'd suggest other people do the same.
You're easily one of the most butthurt people I have ever seen. Spec if you can produce this amount of butthurt in people I can't imagine voting for anyone else.
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.07 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Logit Probit
Originally by: Spectre3353
What Improvements/Changes Am I Advocating?
* Encouraging Tactics Beyond Blobbing and Camping
Spectre, I am interested on hearing your ideas regarding this. I am skeptical, to say the least, that anything could change the predominance of these two tactics. Please elaborate on how you think alternative tactics could be made viable in lowsec.
Well the first thing to keep in mind is that I said we need changes that help "encourage" tactics beyond blobbing and camping. You can't "solve" or "prevent" something that is a core part of the game. Nothing will ever remove such activities as long as Eve continues to grow (higher population) and as long as people enjoy seeing themselves on killmails (I'm not judging, I know I do). That being said, some of the more recent changes in the game as well as some mechanics that are considerably older, encourage these types of behaviors and discourage moving from system to system or putting your ships at risk. More specifically:
(1) No one wants to fly frigates around lowsec if they are unable to even use them at a majority of locations where pilots actually congregate/travel through (ie: gates, stations). This encourages the use of larger ships.
(2) No one wants to fly ships around if they are just going to lose them in lame situations where they cannot get a fight out of it (ie: agility/speed changes mean that it is very difficult to travel without getting caught on a gate before you can warp). This also encourages or almost forces people to have multiple accounts with which to scout which I am not a big fan of.
(3) No one wants to fly and risk their nice T2 ships if they are so incredibly expensive. I totally agree with the idea of having to earn improvements to what you fly via paying for it but T2 cruisers costing 150 to 200 million ISK to properly fit is way, way out of whack (I hear that this is already being worked on and reduced material cost for T2 ships is already implemented on Sisi).
I don't have all the solutions but I believe most pilots will agree that the most fun engagements they experience in lowsec involve gangs of similar strengths where both sides actually get to use tactics and fight each other as opposed to one simply ganking the other with a superior numbers as they pass through a gate. 0.0 already has this type of combat... why can't lowsec be different and unique? Any changes that could encourage players to not be afraid to go out in all sized ships and in smaller gangs and lose their ships would be good ones. The trick is to figuring out how to do it via buffs or changes that effect everyone as opposed to nerfing which usually makes nobody happy. I am only one man with some basic ideas on this and it would definitely take other minds on the CSM and in CCP in conjunction to come up with what tweaks would have the right (or any) results. ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog |
Dr Cron
Northern Lights Number 5
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Posted - 2009.10.07 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Cron on 07/10/2009 22:29:57
Spec... can you define exactly what you mean by a blob? And also please explain how tweaking things to be more friendly for smaller ships would help counter 'blobbing'?
Is there a certain threshold where a gang becomes a blob or is it simply a gang that you cant take on at the time with your own forces or what.
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Lars Lodar
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.07 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mashashige You would have my vote, had not for the following reasons:
2. Python/Spec, from my personal knowledge, are a pretty ****ty example of pirates. They are a nice group of people (mostly), and def. know how to have a good time - but if we look at what defines most successful pirates in eve, Python/Spec will be lacking. 3. Spec are a good political, granted - but some of his advocated changes/improvements reek of either hypocrisy/bull**** fillers. "* Encouraging Tactics Beyond Blobbing and Camping" is a nice saying, but when Spec/Python spend 90% of you time ingame either engaging at uneven odds (you being favorites) or camping the Jel gate, I worry that you'll be unable to offer any new insight/ideas regarding other tactics - especially since you seem to rather stay docked than undock and try other methods (that ARE possible in this iteration of the game) of gameplay except blobing/gatecamping.
What exactly defines most 'successful' pirates in eve?
We have a lot of fun first and foremost, and applications to our corp have never been so high. Now everyone in Python greatly respects the skill and efficiency of EP but we have different play styles. Our primary focus is having FUN and being casual opposed to obsessing over killboard stats and denigrating others. Maybe that's why we have so many active players, friends, and constant applications whereas EP has like what, 4 active members?
Before we even moved in we offered our friendship and was met with Ken's elitist attitude saying he didn't want to train us for free.
You mock us for engaging at uneven odds or camping gates which last I recall was a 'safe' and viable way to make isk and common practice for most pirate corps. I think it's ironic compared when your illustrious CEO has to use a carrier alt, a damnation alt, and fully faction fitted ship before he does anything because if you don't, you're not flying a "REAL SHIP". And last I check your corp spent way more time docked than ours.
Most of our time recently has been spent probing mission runners and nabbing people in wormholes. I feel that your engagements with us has tainted your perception on what we do.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.07 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lars Lodar
What exactly defines most 'successful' pirates in eve?
We have a lot of fun first and foremost, and applications to our corp have never been so high. Now everyone in Python greatly respects the skill and efficiency of EP but we have different play styles. Our primary focus is having FUN and being casual opposed to obsessing over killboard stats and denigrating others. Maybe that's why we have so many active players, friends, and constant applications whereas EP has like what, 4 active members?
Before we even moved in we offered our friendship and was met with Ken's elitist attitude saying he didn't want to train us for free.
You mock us for engaging at uneven odds or camping gates which last I recall was a 'safe' and viable way to make isk and common practice for most pirate corps. I think it's ironic compared when your illustrious CEO has to use a carrier alt, a damnation alt, and fully faction fitted ship before he does anything because if you don't, you're not flying a "REAL SHIP". And last I check your corp spent way more time docked than ours.
Most of our time recently has been spent probing mission runners and nabbing people in wormholes. I feel that your engagements with us has tainted your perception on what we do.
While i agree with you, i dont think this topic is for the intimate discussion of python/EP relations.
That of course goes for masha as well.
thanks guys :)
My noobish Khanid Pirate blog: http://helicityboson.blogspot.com/ |
Gamble Tuck
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Posted - 2009.10.08 01:16:00 -
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Spec has my full support and I encourage others to hop on board. Low-Sec gameplay needs to be improved for all pilot types: mission runners, miners, "pirates", etc. I truly believe Spec is well qualified and very serious about his CSM running and can help make low-sec life more interesting and fun for all.
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Skarned
Inroads
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Posted - 2009.10.08 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Spectre3353 Subspace
As CSM, what is your position on how the the shrapnel changes (randomization, increased size, lower count) have affected base defense on the traditional Warzone West map? Has this been a positive change? If not, what would you do to correct it?
Also, negging is for lamers, c/d?
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Mickey Simon
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.10.08 01:27:00 -
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You have my tentative support. Haven't seen any other candidates worth my vote, and although I strongly dislike your corps playstyle of blobbing the **** out of anything moving, your points seem like you've thought about them for at least a minute and are working towards making EVE better for everyone.
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.08 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Skarned
Originally by: Spectre3353 Subspace
As CSM, what is your position on how the the shrapnel changes (randomization, increased size, lower count) have affected base defense on the traditional Warzone West map? Has this been a positive change? If not, what would you do to correct it?
Also, negging is for lamers, c/d?
I was not a supporter of the randomized shrapnel. Having the predictable 8 way shrapnel allowed player awareness and skill to help minimize bomb damage, especially in tight spaces and I would rather see player skill take precedence over randomization any day.
Negging was a perfectly valid, while socially discouraged tactic. The longer it takes your enemies to green a ship back to full strength, the longer it kept them from taking part in attacking your base or defending their own at full capacity.
Lastly, if I remember which was the original Warzone West map, the bases sucked (although it's been a long time, I could be thinking of the wrong one). I was always a big fan of the map with the Spiral in the bottom left and I'm sure I had other favorites but it's been so long now that I can hardly remember which bases were in which maps.
P.S. Subspace/Continuum and Warzone SVS was absolutely fantastic and I miss it terribly. ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.10.08 02:34:00 -
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Do you support the re-stickying of Skira Ranos' Nubbin Pirate Guide?
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.08 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Griffin Do you support the re-stickying of Skira Ranos' Nubbin Pirate Guide?
Absolutely. When new pirates ask me advice on pirating I send them straight to a couple resources including Skira Ranos' guide as well as Wensley's Rifter guide. ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog |
Griznatle
Caldari Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.10.08 03:15:00 -
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ok, you made me crawl out of my hole. Mash, shut up you tool, dont you be talking about unfair advantages. You blob 3 month old low sec mission runners WITH A DAMNATION RUNNING OVER 9000 GANG LINKS as your squad commander. so shut it noob before spec baits your huginn...oh wait... before spec baits your proteus...oh wait... before spec baits your CARRIER! thats what you havent ragelost yet.
Anyway, Spec you have my vote. Pythons are a good corp and I love to watch it grow. I hope you rework failwarfare to make amamake more like it used to be, just plain fun.
peace, and love as usual.
in before Ken Plante posts ----------------------------------------------- legion's cheerleader CanihazurBumpBump? |
Andrea Skye
Caldari The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.08 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Mashashige especially since you seem to rather stay docked than undock and try other methods (that ARE possible in this iteration of the game) of gameplay except blobing/gatecamping.
Bwahaha, python roams nearly EVERY SINGLE DAY, small roams, in all kinds of ships. We offer your guys a 1v1, and you say you dont want to because you want to fly REAL ships? REAL SHIPS? IN A GAME???
Last i checked it was EP that never left the station, the only time you leave it is when you probe out a mission runner.
We dont claim to be the best, hell, we dont want to be. Its alot more fun when you dont take it so seriously, you should try it sometime.
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Cartheron Crust
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.08 11:14:00 -
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I am make vote for you. |
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.08 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: Larkonis TrassIer on 08/10/2009 11:23:35
Originally by: Mashashige You would have my vote, had not for the following reasons:
1. Pirate CSM candidates have (by past experience) been failures (i.e lark).
Be it as it may, even if my personal reasons to dislike Spec are irrelevant to most of you - unless he can prove he's serious about improving the game and not just ****ing around like lark did - Id place my vote with someone else, and I'd suggest other people do the same.
Wait wat? I was actually doing a pretty good job of it all until I fouled up. In fact you should be thankful. I got all the major issues raised and discussed in Iceland, got caught out, had my ticket to fanfest cancelled. Thus I did my job and saved CCP some money by not having to fly me out to Iceland again. Everyone's a winner.
Anyway, Spec seems to be a pretty good guy who doesn't afraid of anything. I wish him the best of luck. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator |
Introspective
Schrodinger's Renegades
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Posted - 2009.10.08 12:42:00 -
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Some love for lowsec would be great, it'd be great to see the general workings of sentries/aggression/gang members looked at - you'll get my vote.
@Mash - I suggest you talk to your older members about EP's past activities when there were more than just the 4 of you, camping the Jel gate and bringing superior numbers was pretty much EP's way of doing things...
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.08 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Cron Spec... can you define exactly what you mean by a blob? And also please explain how tweaking things to be more friendly for smaller ships would help counter 'blobbing'?
Is there a certain threshold where a gang becomes a blob or is it simply a gang that you cant take on at the time with your own forces or what.
That is a really good question and I don't even know if I can really answer it properly myself. I suppose I would define blobbing as bringing a gang of size/strength where the chances of finding any opponent that can even consider fighting back effectively is very slim. For example, flying around lowsec with a gang of 30 where 3-4 of your gang members are ECM ships would be a blob (to me) as all you are probably going to wind up with is a couple of ganks and no real combat.
Originally by: Mickey Simon You have my tentative support. Haven't seen any other candidates worth my vote, and although I strongly dislike your corps playstyle of blobbing the **** out of anything moving, your points seem like you've thought about them for at least a minute and are working towards making EVE better for everyone.
Thanks for the support Mickey. I checked our KB and the only fight I see with you involved is one where its a bunch of T1 cruisers and BC's and both sides lost ships. Might have been a bit skewed in numbers but thats not quite what I would consider a blob :)
Lastly, everyone that is responding to Mash, please keep the EP vs PC discussion/flaming out of this thread if possible. If you want to create another thread or take it in-game, I'll even join in myself but I'd like to keep this thread related to the CSM. Thanks!
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Count Angelus
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Posted - 2009.10.08 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer Edited by: Larkonis TrassIer on 08/10/2009 11:23:35
Originally by: Mashashige You would have my vote, had not for the following reasons:
1. Pirate CSM candidates have (by past experience) been failures (i.e lark).
Be it as it may, even if my personal reasons to dislike Spec are irrelevant to most of you - unless he can prove he's serious about improving the game and not just ****ing around like lark did - Id place my vote with someone else, and I'd suggest other people do the same.
Wait wat? I was actually doing a pretty good job of it all until I fouled up. In fact you should be thankful. I got all the major issues raised and discussed in Iceland, got caught out, had my ticket to fanfest cancelled. Thus I did my job and saved CCP some money by not having to fly me out to Iceland again. Everyone's a winner.
Anyway, Spec seems to be a pretty good guy who doesn't afraid of anything. I wish him the best of luck.
I can confirm Lark did a good job up until..that. :) Well, in the eyes of a fellow CSM I talked to atleast.
We all make mistakes, but he put in the work and heart to it in my book atleast.
Oh, and Spectre for president. \o/
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Commoner
Caldari The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.10.08 16:07:00 -
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You've got a big chance of getting my vote, mostly cause Python cartel is a nice group, and also cause an ex tusker is a memember of your corp =)
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Janie Suspect
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Posted - 2009.10.08 16:18:00 -
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You're making some of the same points most pirate always complain about. Miners make too much isk. Pirates don't have enough free kills. Why should I be punished in 'lowsec' for doing bad things (GCC garbage)?
Your point about the sentries I agree with, I believe they should be stronger a lone battleship should not be able to tank them, a squad of battleships with RR should be able to. Remember low sec is like a bad neighborhood it's not the lawless west, the cops may be slow to show up it shouldn't mean they never show up.
And I think the criminal flagging should be extended to full station lock out if your sec rating drops to -5 once there you're force to live the true pirate life and be locked in to docking only at faction pirate controlled stations. That would give you actual consequences for your actions.
See now pirate are forced to nullsec and helping populate it! Two solutions in one, This brings carebears to lowsec (less pirates) and more people to NPC nullsec!
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.08 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Janie Suspect You're making some of the same points most pirate always complain about. Miners make too much isk. Pirates don't have enough free kills. Why should I be punished in 'lowsec' for doing bad things (GCC garbage)?
Hey Janie, thanks for the response but I have to wonder if you actually read anything I wrote? I didn't really make any of the points that you just claimed. The things that I do actually believe:
- I feel that Mining needs a buff and needs to be made more interesting of a profession.
- I feel that pirates already have a TON of free kills. What I would rather see is interesting and fun fights for everyone PvP'ing in lowsec, not just "pirates".
- I feel that you should be punished to an extent for initiating combat in lowsec (as this is part of what makes it unique from nullsec) but the current mechanics for doing so are outdated and could definitely use an overhaul. ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog |
Janie Suspect
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Posted - 2009.10.08 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Spectre3353
Originally by: Janie Suspect You're making some of the same points most pirate always complain about. Miners make too much isk. Pirates don't have enough free kills. Why should I be punished in 'lowsec' for doing bad things (GCC garbage)?
Hey Janie, thanks for the response but I have to wonder if you actually read anything I wrote? I didn't really make any of the points that you just claimed. The things that I do actually believe:
- I feel that Mining needs a buff and needs to be made more interesting of a profession.
- I feel that pirates already have a TON of free kills. What I would rather see is interesting and fun fights for everyone PvP'ing in lowsec, not just "pirates".
- I feel that you should be punished to an extent for initiating combat in lowsec (as this is part of what makes it unique from nullsec) but the current mechanics for doing so are outdated and could definitely use an overhaul.
Ah ok maybe I misread your blog. I agree mining needs something done, but it will be hard to buff it and not ruin the isk per hour. As for low sec, on way to get interesting fights is to balance pve setups to pvp, sure they wouldn't be able to point any one but they shouldn't be a sitting duck either (this could be impossible, it could make some ships truly over powered).
One thing I think needs addressing is smart bombs in low sec, If bombs (stealth bomer, bombs) are not allowed in low sec why are smarties allowed? Allowing bombs in low sec would allow for a smaller force to break a gate camp of a larger force. Or buff the gate guns to address this.
As for the GCC, I think the time could be adjusted, but I'd like to see a lock out on docking privileges while under the GCC. I mean you just committed a crime, why would a station in good standing with whoever controls the region allow you to dock?
I'd like to see NPC pirate corps make their presence known in low sec. What I mean by this is, if you read the lore (lol lore I know) some of these pirate corps have a legitimate front facing corp. So why not have these available to players in low sec. And they should allow criminals to dock.
Low sec needs to be changed from what it is to more of a frontier. CONCORD should not be involved, but the faction navies should be on patrol and they should be tough!
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.08 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Janie Suspect One thing I think needs addressing is smart bombs in low sec, If bombs (stealth bomer, bombs) are not allowed in low sec why are smarties allowed? Allowing bombs in low sec would allow for a smaller force to break a gate camp of a larger force. Or buff the gate guns to address this.
Allowing smartbombs gives ships the ability to handle a large number of smaller ships in a small range and gives the ability to actually nab and kill pods which can be otherwise impossible due to the absence of bubbles in lowsec. If someone wants to dedicate their entire ship setup to a specific purpose such as this, I don't see anything wrong with it. Anything that adds to the rock/paper/scissors mentality and encourages variety in combat tactics and execution is a big plus in my book.
Originally by: Janie Suspect As for the GCC, I think the time could be adjusted, but I'd like to see a lock out on docking privileges while under the GCC. I mean you just committed a crime, why would a station in good standing with whoever controls the region allow you to dock?
Sounds logical but I'm more interested in the fun of the gameplay then how much it makes sense in the RP world. As a -10 sec status PvP'er myself, I can tell you that it would NOT add to the fun factor if every time I got a timer I was not even allowed to redock until it had worn out. What if I want to log off and don't want to leave my ship vulnerable to being probed and destroyed? What if there is a potential fight and I want to be able to switch into a more appropriate ship and come back out?
Originally by: Janie Suspect I'd like to see NPC pirate corps make their presence known in low sec. What I mean by this is, if you read the lore (lol lore I know) some of these pirate corps have a legitimate front facing corp. So why not have these available to players in low sec. And they should allow criminals to dock.
Low sec needs to be changed from what it is to more of a frontier. CONCORD should not be involved, but the faction navies should be on patrol and they should be tough!
I agree with your general sentiment here. It would be nice if there was more to the whole "outlaw vs law-abiding citizen" dynamic. Right now it's very basic and one-sided. It's a huge topic and I'd love to hear everyones opinions on how lowsec could improved via changes to security status, factions, sentries, timers, free cupcakes, more puppies, etc. ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog |
Dawts
The Order of the EyE
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Right now to me, the problem with low-sec is what is the point in even going there?
When I tried to pirate I got bored of traveling through empty belt after empty belt, ships just warping from gate to gate and what am I going to kill at a gate in a frig/cruiser?
I think FW plexes are a good step in the right direction, they're off gate and station, and also can restrict ship type. If FW was full of paranoid morons I'd almost like to join back up.... almost.
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