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Kirana Minmatar Altair Express	Posted - 2009.11.05 22:55:00 - [91] Edited by: Kirana on 05/11/2009 22:54:56 I stand corrected. This isn't confirmed but it's entirely possible. Comes from the CEO of Suddenly Ninjas Ninja Salvage --- Vote Kirana for CSM4! We were somewhere on the edge of Fountain when the drugs took hold...
The'Best Hellfury Incura	Posted - 2009.11.06 04:24:00 - [92] no ALEKSEYEV KARRDE FOR CSM
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.11.06 11:10:00 - [93] Originally by: Artassaut I'll vote for you if you go and gank another CSM candidate. He's welcome to come try :D Don't know who to vote for? Find out with CSM matchmaker!
Cyberin Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.11.06 18:52:00 - [94] Edited by: Cyberin on 06/11/2009 18:53:54 I agree 100% with you on all counts, my 3 votes will most definitely be going to you! Originally by: Kirana Edited by: Kirana on 05/11/2009 22:54:56 I stand corrected. This isn't confirmed but it's entirely possible. Comes from the CEO of Suddenly Ninjas Ninja Salvage --- Your proof can be found here in the post by CCP Incognito http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1208319&page=1#24 Hands Off, My Loots!
Kirana Minmatar Altair Express	Posted - 2009.11.07 22:17:00 - [95] Originally by: Cyberin Your proof can be found here in the post by CCP Incognito http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1208319&page=1#24 So it is written, so shall it be done. It's not the end of the world. But it would be nice to be able to shoot at them. Vote Kirana for CSM4! We were somewhere on the edge of Fountain when the drugs took hold...
Faeshia	Posted - 2009.11.08 19:02:00 - [96] He's got my vote!
Sliaria	Posted - 2009.11.09 00:10:00 - [97] Someone from Legion of xXDeathXx brought this up earlier, and I'd like to make it a formal question for Logit: What is your position on the Local channel, specifically relating to its effect as an instant, system-wide scanner? Would you advocate the change or removal of that function, and in what ways?
Logit Probit	Posted - 2009.11.09 07:13:00 - [98] Originally by: Sliaria Someone from Legion of xXDeathXx brought this up earlier, and I'd like to make it a formal question for Logit: What is your position on the Local channel, specifically relating to its effect as an instant, system-wide scanner? Would you advocate the change or removal of that function, and in what ways? The systemic effects of changing Local Chat to a delay would need to be considered. Clearly, such a change would have far-reaching consequences beyond just the hoped-for effect (making PvP more unpredictable, presumably.) Currently, there are methods (probably exploits) of creating super-deep safespots. There are also many players with bookmarked super-deep safes from when they were easy to make. These safespots would allow people to circumvent the only remaining way of gathering intel (probing/scanning), and would generate a lot of complaining. This issue would need to be addressed first. Another issue is how it would change the incentive structure surrounding fleet sizes. Currently, in lowsec and 0.0, smaller gangs (of both PvPers and PvEers) can use the easy intel Local Chat provides to assess possible engagements. Without that easy intel, blobbing for defensive purposes becomes much more attractive. While I have never liked Local Chat, and would personally be happy to see a delay added to it, a change to it would have far-reaching consequences. It would definitely make EvE more hardcore (a plus IMO), but it would encourage blobbing (bad) and generate a lot of whining from all types of players about unfair advantages. A change would have to be carefully thought out. Sorry if this seems like a dodge, but this is the kind of representative I would be; I would approach changes to game mechanics conservatively, no matter how attractive they were to me personally.
Kirana Minmatar Altair Express	Posted - 2009.11.09 17:17:00 - [99] Edited by: Kirana on 09/11/2009 17:19:20 Edited by: Kirana on 09/11/2009 17:17:28 Originally by: Sliaria Someone from Legion of xXDeathXx brought this up earlier, and I'd like to make it a formal question for Logit: What is your position on the Local channel, specifically relating to its effect as an instant, system-wide scanner? Would you advocate the change or removal of that function, and in what ways? Pardon the thread jack, but why not just take away the pilot list from local altogether. It doesn't really make sense that you would just know who was in a system, even on a delay. But if you happened to be in a system when someone made a broadcast, then you would know they were there. I wouldn't argue about whether local list is fair or not. But I would argue that it doesn't make a lot of sense. It assumes that there is some system in place of collecting stats on the local population and then broadcasting those results out to every ship in local. I guess you could say this is a function of the gates but why does it exist? What's the purpose? Wormholes have no gates but still have local lists... Even from a PVP perspective I think it takes some of the fun out of it. More fun to guard the gates and start probing. That's my 2 cents. Leave local chat but take away any pilot stats. Just like a radio at sea. I know you are there if my radar can see you or if you are broadcasting. Past that... Vote Kirana for CSM4! We were somewhere on the edge of Fountain when the drugs took hold...
Kalos Beila	Posted - 2009.11.09 19:55:00 - [100] Originally by: Moranda Morland Things I learned form this thread: 1. That Logit Probit is afraid to face the people he ****es off so he hides in a NPC corp, very pirateish- YARRR and a few 2. Nerds in real life tend to be asshats on the interwebs 3. Even guys with small PP's can and do get married, I assume you are married to a female if not nothing wrong with it i live in SF it smells of Vaseline around here all the time. 4. That a moped and a motorcycle are the same thing when talking to people that don't know you in real life. 5. That he really considers (or most likely wishes others would) himself a, scumbag, and a horrible bastard. 6. You have no chance in hell to win- so go pet your puppy hop on the moped with you gay lover and put this CSM silliness outta your pretty little bald head ; ) Kisses Moranda /thread
Sliaria	Posted - 2009.11.09 20:20:00 - [101] Edited by: Sliaria on 09/11/2009 20:20:34 Originally by: Logit Probit Sorry if this seems like a dodge, Not at all - Your position on the issue is that you'd look at any proposed change very closely and be watchful for any negative impact on the choices we have in the game (strengthening blobbing as the "only" choice counts as a negative impact on choices in my book). You told me exactly what I wanted to know.
Box Cox	Posted - 2009.11.10 17:59:00 - [102] +2 votes for you sir.
RedSplat Noir.	Posted - 2009.11.10 18:31:00 - [103] You should make Matrix Skye your running mate, look at all the free publicity he is giving you securing the griefer vote! If only i had 1 Isk for every time he has spewed bile all over a thread related to Suddenly Ninjas I'd have... Lots of Isk. Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Riedle Minmatar Raptus Regalitor	Posted - 2009.11.12 14:14:00 - [104] You have my vote.
Velocity Prime Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.11.12 17:36:00 - [105] You have my vote support, good sir. VelociLogic.com
Adabuesi Minmatar Freelance Mining and Courier	Posted - 2009.11.12 18:18:00 - [106] been a carebear since i started eve Im very happy to finally have a carebear CSM candidate who also fears pvp and war decs also at all the wasted votes "oh look he wants to keep eve the same! VOTE" "The only thing worse then a no vote is an uneducated vote"
Durbin Watson	Posted - 2009.11.12 20:51:00 - [107] Edited by: Durbin Watson on 12/11/2009 20:51:32 Originally by: Adabuesi been a carebear since i started eve Im very happy to finally have a carebear CSM candidate who also fears pvp and war decs also at all the wasted votes "oh look he wants to keep eve the same! VOTE" "The only thing worse then a no vote is an uneducated vote" Kill yourself (in-game) +2 for Logit Probit
Adabuesi Minmatar Freelance Mining and Courier	Posted - 2009.11.12 23:11:00 - [108] Kill yourself (in-game) +2 for Logit Probit rgr, starting self destruct on my pod now.. ..I'd ask you to come assist me but since you are a Logit supporter I assume your busy salvaging...
Gauss Markov	Posted - 2009.11.12 23:50:00 - [109] You have my vote. Highsec pirates represent
Srialia Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.11.13 10:10:00 - [110] How in the world did you come up with that sig?
LarcatOfZion	Posted - 2009.11.14 17:15:00 - [111] As a fellow ninja salvaging graduate student at a Midwestern University, you have my vote. o7
Brechan Skene	Posted - 2009.11.14 23:39:00 - [112] You have my vote, after all chaos is good. Chaos is just
Moranda Morland	Posted - 2009.11.15 16:18:00 - [113] There really should be some sort of aptitude test before someone is allowed to vote in any type of election. "I'm not going to kiss any 4sses and I'm not trying to cultivate a band of groupies. I'm putting myself forward as a CSM candidate because 1. I want a free vacation to Iceland and CCP headquarters" Goes to show you what happens when one idiot gets backed by a larger group of idiots. anyways enjoy your trip.... oh and link for those too lazy to research who they vote for: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1198265/page/1#14
Logit Probit	Posted - 2009.11.15 21:04:00 - [114] Originally by: Moranda Morland There really should be some sort of aptitude test before someone is allowed to vote in any type of election. "I'm not going to kiss any 4sses and I'm not trying to cultivate a band of groupies. I'm putting myself forward as a CSM candidate because 1. I want a free vacation to Iceland and CCP headquarters" Goes to show you what happens when one idiot gets backed by a larger group of idiots. anyways enjoy your trip.... oh and link for those too lazy to research who they vote for: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1198265/page/1#14 You could at least have the decency to post my entire quote. Here it is: Originally by: Logit Probit Originally by: pleasewontyoulikeme Anyone else be glad when CSM is over and we aren't subjected to these threads anymore? also it seems like being the "voice" for the ninja salvager/can flippers would be about as degrading as being the voice for purse snatchers and people that pull off those huge liquor store jobs... Rolling Eyes I'm not going to kiss any 4sses and I'm not trying to cultivate a band of groupies. I'm putting myself forward as a CSM candidate because 1. I want a free vacation to Iceland and CCP headquarters (anyone who says that isn't their main motivation is a liar or an idiot) and 2. I'm willing to donate considerable time and energy advocating for ninjas & highsec scumbags, because I love EvE and I love stealing from and killing mission runners. If my fellow scumbags decide to waste their votes on lowsec pirates who won't represent their interests on CSM, or on popularity-obsessed egomaniacs who post more than they play, that's their loss. As far as this being a repeat thread, I'm not going to spend hours on the forums just so I can necro some old post, that's for losers.
Brechan Skene	Posted - 2009.11.15 21:35:00 - [115] Originally by: Moranda Morland There really should be some sort of aptitude test before someone is allowed to vote in any type of election. "I'm not going to kiss any 4sses and I'm not trying to cultivate a band of groupies. I'm putting myself forward as a CSM candidate because 1. I want a free vacation to Iceland and CCP headquarters" Goes to show you what happens when one idiot gets backed by a larger group of idiots. anyways enjoy your trip.... oh and link for those too lazy to research who they vote for: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1198265/page/1#14 I am very happy to provide him with a free vacation to Iceland. Personally I think they should move it to Amsterdam
Logit Probit	Posted - 2009.11.17 21:26:00 - [116] Originally by: Brechan Skene Originally by: Moranda Morland There really should be some sort of aptitude test before someone is allowed to vote in any type of election. "I'm not going to kiss any 4sses and I'm not trying to cultivate a band of groupies. I'm putting myself forward as a CSM candidate because 1. I want a free vacation to Iceland and CCP headquarters" Goes to show you what happens when one idiot gets backed by a larger group of idiots. anyways enjoy your trip.... oh and link for those too lazy to research who they vote for: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1198265/page/1#14 I am very happy to provide him with a free vacation to Iceland. Personally I think they should move it to Amsterdam \o/ Logit for CSM - Stop Idiots from Ruining the Sandbox
Adnan Voss Run rabbit Run	Posted - 2009.11.19 03:28:00 - [117] I regret that I have but two votes to give!
Gfand	Posted - 2009.11.22 20:30:00 - [118] Typical arrogant asshat both in self justification here and behaviour in game. Cowardly, defensive and lacking in any form of understanding of how eve can accomodate multiple behaviours without it has to be pure darwinism. Evidently from the school of freedom and democracy in that so long as it is a democracy that delivers YOUR personal freedom it is worth engaging. I'd rather vote for a goon at least they truly play the game. If your vision of eve gets any airplay you can be certain it wont include my money.
Khalia Nestune Sleeper Asset Relocation Services	Posted - 2009.11.23 00:35:00 - [119] I love all the tears in this thread +1 vote for Logit Probit
Velocity Prime Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.11.23 01:18:00 - [120] Originally by: Gfand Typical arrogant asshat both in self justification here and behaviour in game. Cowardly, defensive and lacking in any form of understanding of how eve can accomodate multiple behaviours without it has to be pure darwinism. Evidently from the school of freedom and democracy in that so long as it is a democracy that delivers YOUR personal freedom it is worth engaging. I'd rather vote for a goon at least they truly play the game. If your vision of eve gets any airplay you can be certain it wont include my money. This post is the epitome of why we need MOAR Logit! \o/ VelociLogic.com

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