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xttz
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.16 23:05:00 -
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...because jesus ****ing christ thats stupid
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Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.10.16 23:07:00 -
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A warning would indeed be nice.
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In New Eden, EVE wins you.
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Serena Ku
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.17 00:06:00 -
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/signed
I have to agree it's very annoying and it became a mental habit to close TQ clients before touching the patcher files. 
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DigitalCommunist
November Corporation
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Posted - 2009.10.17 00:58:00 -
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Meh, better to let a few whiners squeal than to inconvenience the majority with yet-another another confirm button.
[spock]The lazyness of the many outweigh the lazyness of the few[/spock]
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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.10.17 02:39:00 -
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Ya seriously. I dont even want a warning. I want it to stop all together.
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Aglais
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.10.17 02:55:00 -
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Way to install the TQ->SiSi patch in the wrong folder.
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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.10.17 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Meh, better to let a few whiners squeal than to inconvenience the majority with yet-another another confirm button.
[spock]The lazyness of the many outweigh the lazyness of the few[/spock]
That doesnt even make sense tbh. As if you have sisi thing and use autopatcher. You hit ok or whatever and it closes eve that way. If you dl the patch... why the hell do you even have sisi open?
Instead it closes TQ and is quite annoying. TQ eve not needing to be closed.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.10.17 05:24:00 -
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It closes the tq client because there is no difference in the running .exe to the patcher. Changing it would require needless reworking of the patcher and the sisi client so it has never been done. Besides why are you patching sisi when you are doing something you need to focus on in tq as thats about the only reason I can think of where the tq client suddenly closing would matter.
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[03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2009.10.17 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Changing it would require needless reworking of the patcher and the sisi client so it has never been done.
So what? The Patchter is almost useless anyway, it is high time CCP wrote a useful patching system, that doesn't close the client or download the same file every time again and again. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.10.17 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Originally by: Zeba
Changing it would require needless reworking of the patcher and the sisi client so it has never been done.
So what? The Patchter is almost useless anyway, it is high time CCP wrote a useful patching system, that doesn't close the client or download the same file every time again and again.
Never had any issues with patching up the sisi client. You also have to close the tq client as there might be some files in use that the patcher can't change. Again this is because there is no functional differece between the tq and sisi client as both use the exact same system files to run. 
Quote:
[03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA
[03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Zeba is the BEST! ~Mitnal |
Ivanna Nuke
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.10.17 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Ivanna Nuke on 17/10/2009 20:22:20
You should always close open applications if your patching something.
Both SISI and TQ, use the same instance .exe file, therefore when you patch SISI, it kills EVE.exe and causes your TQ install to close.
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Mahai Ano
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.10.17 21:22:00 -
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Edited by: Mahai Ano on 17/10/2009 21:22:21
Edited by: Mahai Ano on 17/10/2009 21:22:06
Originally by: Ivanna Nuke
Edited by: Ivanna Nuke on 17/10/2009 20:22:20
You should always close open applications if your patching something.
Both SISI and TQ, use the same instance .exe file, therefore when you patch SISI, it kills EVE.exe and causes your TQ install to close.
It could look at the PATH of the running .exe and compare it to the dir IT IS PATCHING. Not rocket science, just laziness.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.10.17 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Mahai Ano
Edited by: Mahai Ano on 17/10/2009 21:22:21
Edited by: Mahai Ano on 17/10/2009 21:22:06
Originally by: Ivanna Nuke
Edited by: Ivanna Nuke on 17/10/2009 20:22:20
You should always close open applications if your patching something.
Both SISI and TQ, use the same instance .exe file, therefore when you patch SISI, it kills EVE.exe and causes your TQ install to close.
It could look at the PATH of the running .exe and compare it to the dir IT IS PATCHING. Not rocket science, just laziness.
It doesn't matter what path the executable runs from if it is using the same system files. Its not the contents of the sisi folder that are the problem its the links to your computer that the running client has formed. You need to cut those links to be able to patch regardless of where the patch files are ending up.
Quote:
[03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA
[03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Zeba is the BEST! ~Mitnal |
ZigZag Joe
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.17 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Mahai Ano
Edited by: Mahai Ano on 17/10/2009 21:22:21
Edited by: Mahai Ano on 17/10/2009 21:22:06
Originally by: Ivanna Nuke
Edited by: Ivanna Nuke on 17/10/2009 20:22:20
You should always close open applications if your patching something.
Both SISI and TQ, use the same instance .exe file, therefore when you patch SISI, it kills EVE.exe and causes your TQ install to close.
It could look at the PATH of the running .exe and compare it to the dir IT IS PATCHING. Not rocket science, just laziness.
It doesn't matter what path the executable runs from if it is using the same system files. Its not the contents of the sisi folder that are the problem its the links to your computer that the running client has formed. You need to cut those links to be able to patch regardless of where the patch files are ending up.
.......... if the patcher is ****ing with my system files, I'd be seriously concerned (it isn't, btw, has no reason to). Moreover, i just start tq right back up after the stupid patcher kills and guess what - sisi is just fine. It would be an academic exercise to kill executables running from within the target path. Basically, you have no idea how apps work. Two copies of the game are completely independent.
But it just kills all processes with the name exefile before the patch is even downloaded and ready to patch. This is just poor design. No prompt is necessary, just some high school grade code.
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HeliosGal
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Posted - 2009.10.17 22:23:00 -
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installing any download via windows vista causes TQ to shut down its a vista thing
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Casey Windstrom
Nanobots Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.18 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: HeliosGal
installing any download via windows vista causes TQ to shut down its a vista thing
If that's true, that's yet another reason not to use Vista, in my book. Man, Microsoft hates their users.
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xttz
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.19 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
It closes the tq client because there is no difference in the running .exe to the patcher. Changing it would require needless reworking of the patcher and the sisi client so it has never been done. Besides why are you patching sisi when you are doing something you need to focus on in tq as thats about the only reason I can think of where the tq client suddenly closing would matter.
Because I'm capable of doing more than one task at a time. And to prove my point I'm currently running 2 TQ clients while poasting.
Originally by: Zeba
Its not the contents of the sisi folder that are the problem its the links to your computer that the running client has formed. You need to cut those links to be able to patch regardless of where the patch files are ending up.
However the patcher doesn't affect any Windows system files, and it does not modify anything outside of the given EVE directory and associated application data dierctory (aside from boot.ini). You can confirm this with procexp or similar tool.
This is just lazy coding by CCP - they simply kill anything named 'exefile.exe' without warning.
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