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Maxious
Dragon Knights of EvE
8
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:35:00 -
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Ok so my entire corp is screaming at me to get us a high sec pos "GET US A HIGH SEC POS" they say. Now I listen to what the corp wants and try to make it happen. I've designed the new pos. researched the net for everything I know. Start operations to get isk to buy the thing and start stockpiling materials for fuel and such. Getting a second account trained up in corp management to make a temp corp to hold all my corpies whilst setting up. Spent ages finding a prime site and now good to go
Found this system. Great little system. It's got ice for my corp. it's got 12 asteroids belts for mining. And it has a station with a refiner. Prime site. Ok I'll take it.-á Went to the first moon. Their is a pos already there. Just a small control tower. Nothing else and has no power. Been abandoned by the look of it. Looked at the corp that owned it. About 5 people. Looks like the corp is dead and has been for a long time. Oh well this moon is tied up by some floating scrap. I'll try the next moon.... 2 hours and 38 moons later. I found that every moon is tied up. DAM no places left. I did a d scan but that shows only 33 stations but 38 moons. Their should be 5 moons free. But my eye check shows all moons taken. -á
Ok so this prime site is all use up by floating scrap mettle. Went to next neighbouring system. And initial d scan shows the same results. So what's going on here? Is it really so hard to get a high sec pos? Do stations get destroyed over time? What happens if you don't keep starbase charters topped up. Am I going to have to wardec a company to make space in a system?-á |
Disregard That
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:37:00 -
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Maxious wrote:Ok so my entire corp is screaming at me to get us a high sec pos "GET US A HIGH SEC POS" they say. Now I listen to what the corp wants and try to make it happen. I've designed the new pos. researched the net for everything I know. Start operations to get isk to buy the thing and start stockpiling materials for fuel and such. Getting a second account trained up in corp management to make a temp corp to hold all my corpies whilst setting up. Spent ages finding a prime site and now good to go
Found this system. Great little system. It's got ice for my corp. it's got 12 asteroids belts for mining. And it has a station with a refiner. Prime site. Ok I'll take it.-á Went to the first moon. Their is a pos already there. Just a small control tower. Nothing else and has no power. Been abandoned by the look of it. Looked at the corp that owned it. About 5 people. Looks like the corp is dead and has been for a long time. Oh well this moon is tied up by some floating scrap. I'll try the next moon.... 2 hours and 38 moons later. I found that every moon is tied up. DAM no places left. I did a d scan but that shows only 33 stations but 38 moons. Their should be 5 moons free. But my eye check shows all moons taken. -á
Ok so this prime site is all use up by floating scrap mettle. Went to next neighbouring system. And initial d scan shows the same results. So what's going on here? Is it really so hard to get a high sec pos? Do stations get destroyed over time? What happens if you don't keep starbase charters topped up. Am I going to have to wardec a company to make space in a system?-á 1) Declare war.
2) Shoot unpowered tower.
3) Profit.
How is this not obvious to you, man? THIS IS A SPACE WAR GAME!
Edit: Also, first.
Double Edit: D-Scan has a finite range. Your 3 ghost stations are off-scan. |
Masikari
State War Academy Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:38:00 -
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Yup, WarDec the Corp with the dead tower and blast it to make way for yours. |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
179
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:38:00 -
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Maxious wrote: Ok so this prime site is all use up by floating scrap mettle. Went to next neighbouring system. And initial d scan shows the same results. So what's going on here? Is it really so hard to get a high sec pos? Do stations get destroyed over time? What happens if you don't keep starbase charters topped up. Am I going to have to wardec a company to make space in a system?-á
If you want a moon in that system, yes, you'll have to wardec and destroy their POS. If the POS is offline, it doesn't use fuel or charters. It'll never just autodestruct.
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Ricardo Aguti
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
19
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:39:00 -
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War dec them, blow up their POS, put up your own.
That's what the Wardec system is there for. Many of the highsec POSes have been there for years. YEARS!!! Most don't even have guns. You can probably pay someone to do it for you. |
SetrakDark
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
39
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:39:00 -
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Disregard That wrote:1) Declare war.
2) Shoot unpowered tower.
3) Profit.
How is this not obvious to you, man? THIS IS A SPACE WAR GAME!
What she said.
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1856
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:40:00 -
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So, the game's been around for 9 years. The HS map hasn't changed in those 9 years. The reasons people think places are prime haven't changed in 9 years. Why are you surprised that the prime spaces are all squatted?
Wardec someone or find something less prime.
Figure out what you actually need the POS for. Except Research, anything a POS can do, a Station does better, cheaper. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7819
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:47:00 -
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No, it's not particularly hard.
You just don't limit yourself to a specific system, and you start looking in places that are a bit off the beaten path. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
224
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:48:00 -
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Masikari wrote:Yup, WarDec the Corp with the dead tower and blast it to make way for yours. Or pay someone else for its removal.. There are pos removeal mercs out there. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7819
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:51:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:Masikari wrote:Yup, WarDec the Corp with the dead tower and blast it to make way for yours. Or pay someone else for its removal.. There are pos removeal mercs out there. Or, hell, sometimes you can even pay the owners to get the spot GÇö they get cash and keep their asset; you get the spot. Everyone wins (except the mercs).
GǪbut it's an unorthodox method with little to no guarantees that it will actually work.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Reppyk
The Black Shell
136
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:58:00 -
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Hire BLSHL ! |
Vxrasa
The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn
12
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Posted - 2012.06.10 17:06:00 -
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Your corp name is literally The 'Dragon Knights of EVE'. There is no emoticon of an exploding psyduck head strong enough to describe that. Either blow up the POS or hire someone else to do it. This game doesn't really reward timidness. |
adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.06.10 17:13:00 -
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Yes it is that hard to war dec and pop it rofl... wtf... |
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
64
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Posted - 2012.06.10 17:36:00 -
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You must be right on top of Jita. There are so many unclaimed moons it crazy. War-dec an inactive corp and blow up a small tower.
Just curious what do you need a high-sec pos for? The onlything high-sec pos do AFAIK is invention/manufacturing. That is a solo, or small tightly-knit group activity, not a pub corp activity. Someone is gonna rob ya. |
Bossy Lady
Aliastra Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2012.06.10 19:41:00 -
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Vxrasa wrote:Your corp name is literally The 'Dragon Knights of EVE'. There is no emoticon of an exploding psyduck head strong enough to describe that. Either blow up the POS or hire someone else to do it. This game doesn't really reward timidness.
It's a truism in EVE that the more aggressive and ominous the name or title, the bigger the bear that cowers behind it.
Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
520
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Posted - 2012.06.10 19:45:00 -
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If you want something, take it.
To keep/hold something, defend it.
That's how this game works. . |
Baneken
Fistful of Finns Ewoks
131
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:02:00 -
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Jesus get a geddon -> war dec -> leave geddon afk to shoot the POS -> come back in the morning.
If your geddon and (your pod) aren't there no longer then the POS wasn't obviously abandoned just "in hibernation".
Shooting abandoned POS in high sec is no rocket science, folks. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
596
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:11:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:If you want something, take it.
To keep/hold something, defend it.
That's how this game works.
Or pay someone to take/defend it for you (and hope you don't get double-crossed) Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
397
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:15:00 -
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He just asked a question and the "we know it all you must be dumb or timid " squad comes out to play
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Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:19:00 -
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Tell CEO you found the spot, but he needs to wardec the dead corp that has the moon. then get everybody together in Geddons and have fun shooting a small tower for hours. Oh and have the tower you are going to use right there waiting, as someone will snipe it if you are not quick enough placing your own. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
108
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:24:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:He just asked a question and the "we know it all you must be dumb or timid " squad comes out to play Tal
What was the question? What was the context? What was the obvious answer? What did you contribute to the discussion? Where is this discussion being held? |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
108
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:28:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:Tell CEO you found the spot, but he needs to wardec the dead corp that has the moon. then get everybody together in Geddons and have fun shooting a small tower for hours. Oh and have the tower you are going to use right there waiting, as someone will snipe it if you are not quick enough placing your own.
Someone enterprising will have run your character name through a locator agent, checked your current corp and corp history, added most obvious corps to watch list entered constellation your character is located, acquired names of all the pilots who share common history, will have locator agents ready to run for as many of these guys as they can handle. When your geddon blob forms Enterprising person will have a recon ship in local as well as a hauler in an npc corp. If your blob is not big enough they may choose to bring their own. |
Russell Casey
One Ton
147
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:43:00 -
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Disregard That wrote: 1) Declare war.
2) Shoot unpowered tower.
3) Profit.
How is this not obvious to you, man? THIS IS A SPACE WAR GAME!
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Because it's a highsec corp. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
642
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:58:00 -
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Bossy Lady wrote:Vxrasa wrote:Your corp name is literally The 'Dragon Knights of EVE'. There is no emoticon of an exploding psyduck head strong enough to describe that. Either blow up the POS or hire someone else to do it. This game doesn't really reward timidness. It's a truism in EVE that the more aggressive and ominous the name or title, the bigger the bear that cowers behind it. 99% of corps with names like "Ultimate Death Mercenaries" are 3 man corps that run L4s.
I've also seen literally hundreds of characters with names like "Maximus Starslayer" and "Deathhand Silentkill" mining in hulks.
It's like people start up EVE for the first time and decide they are going to be a space badass, but then when they realize that being a space badass requires them to shoot at people, and that shooting at people is scary they just give up. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
695
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Posted - 2012.06.10 21:14:00 -
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Wardec and blow up the tower. 'Nuff said. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
90
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Posted - 2012.06.10 21:46:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:He just asked a question and the "we know it all you must be dumb or timid " squad comes out to play Tal OP has been playing since 2005 and is the CEO of a 67 man corp. This is basic stuff. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7822
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Posted - 2012.06.10 21:50:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Bossy Lady wrote:Vxrasa wrote:Your corp name is literally The 'Dragon Knights of EVE'. There is no emoticon of an exploding psyduck head strong enough to describe that. Either blow up the POS or hire someone else to do it. This game doesn't really reward timidness. It's a truism in EVE that the more aggressive and ominous the name or title, the bigger the bear that cowers behind it. 99% of corps with names like "Ultimate Death Mercenaries" are 3 man corps that run L4s. I've also seen literally hundreds of characters with names like "Maximus Starslayer" and "Deathhand Silentkill" mining in hulks. It's like people start up EVE for the first time and decide they are going to be a space badass, but then when they realize that being a space badass requires them to shoot at people, and that shooting at people is scary they just give up. This is why our corp name is so goodGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
917
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Posted - 2012.06.10 21:54:00 -
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We specialize in POS removal. Evemail me for rates. eh |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
297
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Posted - 2012.06.10 21:58:00 -
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You could make an argument that abandoned POS should disappear after 30d of inactivity like GSCs. But on the other hand it is very easy to war dec and get rid of a small offline POS. I say if you cannot get a handful of BS to shoot an offline undefended POS then you don't deserve a moon for a POS. |
Urziel99
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
14
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Posted - 2012.06.10 22:04:00 -
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Vaal Erit wrote:You could make an argument that abandoned POS should disappear after 30d of inactivity like GSCs. But on the other hand it is very easy to war dec and get rid of a small offline POS. I say if you cannot get a handful of BS to shoot an offline undefended POS then you don't deserve a moon for a POS.
Agreed, Dec the corp that is the smallest of the abandoned ones you find. (Contact them first to see if you get a response. That way you know if the corp is truly dead.) Marshall your corp and have a bash if you don't get a response.
Be quick about setting up your own tower and getting it online. (Be sure to load the Stront bay too.) |
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