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Lordsatan666
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Posted - 2009.10.22 10:59:00 -
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Hi guys I was wondering if you could help me. Last night someone was camped outside my NPC corp headquarters shooting newbie members at will. Now I am only 2 weeks in but I have a Cyclone with 720 guns and heavy missile launchers and I was outside the base learning how to scan. As you would expect every time a corp newbie got shot they were messaging me like crazy asking me to retaliate. I locked target and went to fire but was warned that I would be destroyed by CONCORD. I tried fleeting with the corpies and thought that if they got hit I would be able to retaliate but still I got that message and the newbies were splattered again. The offender kept goading me to shoot her but I knew I couldn't and felt pretty impotent. I finally worked out (by her telling me doh!) that she had put loads of containers around the base with "free stuff, help yourself" and the suchlike written on them and when the newbies took it she could shoot them all. Genius really. What could I have done to shoot her? Thanks
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.22 11:03:00 -
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nothing - though you could of removed stuff from one of his cans if you think you could of killed him
if this was in a starter system , then petition the offender because can baiting noobs is against the EULA if elsewhere - tell people not to accept free stuff in space as it may not be - there is a warning when you try and collect stuff -- 3 Titans Lottery EB | Capital |
Louis deGuerre
Gallente The Rise of The Dragon Knights Void Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.22 11:27:00 -
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Make corp. Invite blown up noobs. Wardec griefer. Good times ensue. Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenĘt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie ROTDK is recruiting
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Scrobes
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Posted - 2009.10.22 11:33:00 -
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Eject your own cans and rename them such that taking free stuff is a trap? Or something equivalent. Like someone else said, if the scammer then tries to get rid of your cans by looting them, you at least then have a chance to retaliate (if you think you can take them on). But be warned, they may have friends waiting to assist them if you do make that first shot. As I understand it, it's not uncommon to do what they do in a smaller ship to give the impression they can be beaten easily.
Or just warn the newbies in local chat perhaps.
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Starnap
Somali Coastguard Authority
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Posted - 2009.10.22 11:38:00 -
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Take all of his cans. If he shoots at you, kill him. If he doesn't, call him a ***** noob-baiter till he leaves.
You don't say what ship he was in, but probably that Cyclone wouln't be the best ship to use for this. Hurricane with autocannons might be good.
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Lordsatan666
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Posted - 2009.10.22 11:56:00 -
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She was in a rifter and was only 3 days old herself although I think maybe this was an alt character? I could have taken her no problem. In the end I did take something from the can but then she scarpered. I waited for sometime but no one came. I did salvage all the wrecks though
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Raelyf
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.10.22 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Raelyf on 22/10/2009 12:11:37
Originally by: Lordsatan666 She was in a rifter and was only 3 days old herself although I think maybe this was an alt character? I could have taken her no problem. In the end I did take something from the can but then she scarpered. I waited for sometime but no one came. I did salvage all the wrecks though
I will put money on experienced PVPer in a 3 day old rifter over rookie in a cyclone every.single.time. Bigger is not better - especially when your cyclone is rolling with 720mm - not a chance in the world you'd hit him with those.
Best lesson to learn as a rookie: Always assume people know something you don't. He was probably well aware he could likely trash your cyclone - and the cost of losing for him is a tiny fraction of what it would cost you.
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Riedle
Minmatar Raptus Regalitor Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.22 16:45:00 -
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Quote: Now I am only 2 weeks in but I have a Cyclone with 720 guns and heavy missile launchers and I was outside the base...
o.0
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.10.22 16:49:00 -
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the noobies who whine aren't learning a valuable lesson, free stuff isn't always free
help the rifter blow them up till they are learned.
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Lordsatan666
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Posted - 2009.10.22 17:38:00 -
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lol
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience
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Posted - 2009.10.23 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton the noobies who whine aren't learning a valuable lesson, free stuff isn't always free
help the rifter blow them up till they are learned.
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Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
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Mithfindel
Aseyakone
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Posted - 2009.10.23 12:59:00 -
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Newbie corp HQ systems are the starter systems. As far as I am aware, can baiting (which is the only way a newbie corp ship can be shot legally in hisec) there is classified as grief play and is, thus, a bannable offense. For some reason, lots of people also duels (or at least used to) in newbie systems, at least down in Amarr - but those are usually quite some distance off the station, so accidentally taking "free stuff" isn't very likely.
Older thread about can baiting: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=740960
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My Postman
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Posted - 2009.10.23 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lordsatan666 Hi guys I was wondering if you could help me. Last night someone was camped outside my NPC corp headquarters shooting newbie members at will. Now I am only 2 weeks in but I have a Cyclone with 720 guns and heavy missile launchers and I was outside the base learning how to scan. As you would expect every time a corp newbie got shot they were messaging me like crazy asking me to retaliate. I locked target and went to fire but was warned that I would be destroyed by CONCORD. I tried fleeting with the corpies and thought that if they got hit I would be able to retaliate but still I got that message and the newbies were splattered again. The offender kept goading me to shoot her but I knew I couldn't and felt pretty impotent. I finally worked out (by her telling me doh!) that she had put loads of containers around the base with "free stuff, help yourself" and the suchlike written on them and when the newbies took it she could shoot them all. Genius really. What could I have done to shoot her? Thanks
As posters before wrote - if its a starter system, canbaiting is petitionabele - problem solved.
If it¦s not a starter system (and i assume it¦s highsec), first warn others in local. He (she) cannot shoot when you dont "steal" - at least not with suddenen Concord interferance.
If your intended to hunt down griefers, fleet up with corpmates (or other victims), be sure to have griefer RED on your overview (or you get concordokken), and engage. Anyone in your fleet who sees him RED can take action now.
Be aware - if this is a three day old toon i bet my a.. off that it¦s an alt of an experianced pvper with corpmates not far away. And in this case you all get toasted - but had a good learning!
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