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empathosis
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Posted - 2009.10.27 17:29:00 -
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Hi there
My name is empathosis.
I have gotten into manufacturing and am requiring 300 million ISK as an investment. I have done calculations and i have several spreadsheets detailing how much ISK i can make per day. I have customers already lined up. I have worked out that i can make 78 million ISK per day once I get up and running.
This 300 million ISK will be paid back within 2 weeks of the investment being delivered. Also you will be paid back with 25% interest. This means you will get paid back with 75 million ISK if you invest the full 300 Million ISK.
This investment is going to be used to buy the 2 advanced labs and 1 mobile lab and a few BPO's to invent. I already have the tower bought and the corporation setup. I am just waiting for the 5.0 Minmatar standing to take effect so i can put up the tower then i will be making approximatly 75 Million ISK per day.
Regards Empathosis.
P.S Either post here or EVE mail me if you are interested.
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Roguehalo
Caldari Kimoto Innovations
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Posted - 2009.10.27 17:34:00 -
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0/10
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2009.10.27 17:48:00 -
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Empathosis, people here at MD will certainly be interested in supporting this project, but you need to provide them with some information about yourself and the safety of the venture. The best thing to do is either provide some collateral for the investment that can be secured, or get an audit from a third party which will show at least that you are capable of doing the manufacturing that you claim. If you don't provide anything like this then you will not find any investors I am afraid.
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Demolishar
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Posted - 2009.10.27 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Roguehalo 0/10
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RAW23
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Posted - 2009.10.27 17:53:00 -
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If you can get one of the respected figures in the forum to have a look at your business plan and confirm that it is viable that will go a long way towards getting some interest in this project. You might also want to outline exactly how much you have already spent on this so we can see what it takes, other than the 300mil you're asking for, to generate that 78mil/day.
BTW - if you can really get that much out of three labs please don't provide any details that will give away what you are producing. I would hate the moral dillemma of trying to decide whether or not to steal your idea and compete.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2009.10.27 18:46:00 -
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Anyone show me a way to get a 25% return PER DAY with invention out of a POS I will pay them a 1B ISK consultancy fee.
Minimum return is 75M per day as stated by OP.
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Demolishar
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Posted - 2009.10.27 18:51:00 -
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How good are the defenses on the tower? I didnt see anything about collateral in your post, I assume there is none?
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Skarii TuThess
Lansez Innovations
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Posted - 2009.10.27 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Skarii TuThess on 27/10/2009 20:22:26 When you say making do you mean income or profit?
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Actually I have some better questions:
1/ Your corp is 1 day old and you have no other members in it. As you have no faction standings how are you going to get them?
2/ You are a month old - what are your invention skills?
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.27 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Kalrand on 27/10/2009 20:24:45
Originally by: cosmoray Anyone show me a way to get a 25% return PER DAY with invention out of a POS I will pay them a 1B ISK consultancy fee.
if he has "Free" datacores...
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Admiral IceBlock
Caldari Northern Intelligence The Purge Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.27 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 27/10/2009 21:56:05 I'd advise against investing in this IPO. Want to know more? |
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empathosis
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Posted - 2009.10.28 12:35:00 -
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Hi
First off the POS has no defenses so if anyone wishes they can try to suicide it (not reccomended) I have someone lined up putting in an app now to get the minmatar standings up to 5.0 to allow me to anchor a POS in hi security space.
I have already spent in excess of 100 million myself (POS tower and 6 or 7 BPO's to copy and invent) This is a dedicated manufacturer. i can post a skill sheet if you so wish but my skills allow me to invent all hull and armour upgrades with a 50% chance.
After fixing a few of my calcualtions my profit margin has dropped down to 40 million ISK per day. There is zero collateral as i don't have anything to offer as collateral.
Finally a question for MD. If anyone here is willing to be impartial and audit this i would love the ability to help prove this is legitimate.
Evemail me in game and i can send you things like my spreadsheets and suchlike.
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2009.10.28 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: empathosis Hi First off the POS has no defenses so if anyone wishes they can try to suicide it (not reccomended)
So what are you going to do about a plain old wardec?
Quote: I have already spent in excess of 100 million myself (POS tower and 6 or 7 BPO's to copy and invent) This is a dedicated manufacturer. i can post a skill sheet if you so wish but my skills allow me to invent all hull and armour upgrades with a 50% chance.
What'll you do if you hit a bad streak? 50% chance doesn't mean you'll get one success every two failures.
Quote: After fixing a few of my calcualtions my profit margin has dropped down to 40 million ISK per day. There is zero collateral as i don't have anything to offer as collateral.
That's a drop of 35 million isk, almost half your profit margin, what'd you do to make such a huge error in calculations?
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empathosis
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Posted - 2009.10.28 13:01:00 -
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For a plain and simple wardec i just pull the tower down or anchor a ton of defenses that day.
If i hit a bad streak then hopefully the profit margin from the day or 2 before should cover it as i could also hit a bad streak.
The 35 mil decrease in profit margin is because i decreased it by 20 mill to account for bad days and the other 15 mill is the fluctuation in prices for my materials and datacores.
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Signore Kaeota
Caldari Caelum Incognitum
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Posted - 2009.10.28 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: empathosis For a plain and simple wardec i just pull the tower down or anchor a ton of defenses that day.
If i hit a bad streak then hopefully the profit margin from the day or 2 before should cover it as i could also hit a bad streak.
The 35 mil decrease in profit margin is because i decreased it by 20 mill to account for bad days and the other 15 mill is the fluctuation in prices for my materials and datacores.
1) You can't put defences up without the tower. 2) Pulling the tower down takes the risk of someone stealing it. 3) Experience. You don't need a POS for invention; get the hang of it in stations first, make a bit of money, then try again. 4) 40mil a day on >100mil of BPs... I call bullsh*t. Why? Simple, this thing called supply and demand; the easier it is to supply, the less you make out of it - to keep it simple. 5) 100mil is not "dedication". Try spending 10's of billions; then speak to me about dedication.
As said above; Quote: 0/10
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About the only thing you could do to help this actually move would be to speak to someone like VV; tell them everything you're going to be doing - then have them post here.
P.S. Datacores you farm yourself are not free. -_-_-_-
I, Signore Kaeota, hereby apologise for any and all offence caused by the contents of this above post, and all others that I have written, or otherwise been responsible for.
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