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Aeladon
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Posted - 2009.10.28 01:29:00 -
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System Name: J102736 Class: 5 Anomoly: Magnetar
Anomoly Effects: ECM eff. +85% TP eff. +85% Damp eff. +85% TD eff. +85% Damage +85% AOE Velocity -41% Drone Velocity -41% Targeting Range -41% Tracking Speed -41%
so here is the question.... What would it take to do kill off the sleepers in the ladar and gravimetric sites?
i thought about 4 of these [Scorpion, fleet armor ] 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Armor Explosive Hardener II Damage Control II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
[empty rig slot] Particle Dispersion Augmentor I Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Garde II x3
thoughts?....advice?....
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ThaDollaGenerale
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.10.28 01:55:00 -
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It's not like you need more buffer than just 1 plate against things that alpha for like 5k of damage.
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Aeladon
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Posted - 2009.10.28 02:11:00 -
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so even with the bonuses still say caps? i mean could u get a way with plating/trimark to hell the scorp?? i'm just getting into WH so bear with me but i was hoping because of the bonuses u could get away with using fewer people. i'm just not sure how. i was hoping for more constructive criticism |
Aeladon
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Posted - 2009.10.28 02:17:00 -
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i should also mention we killed off all the frigs and most of the cruisers in a grav site using vexors and black birds with plates . wasn't perfect or against bs but i got a warp in and pulled the spawn further from the sentry guns warping in and out. out past like 150 the sentry guns stopped firing on me. they did all the dmg. if i got in too close to those they'd have popped me. ppl had time issues and we had to stop b4 we got much further... constructive...please |
Aeon Storm
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.10.28 02:54:00 -
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If you've been around as long as your character, I don't see that you're going to have any problems.
Don't bother with the multispecs. Pick any ECM, ladar, grav, whatever, and use that. More jamming, less power, blah, blah. The sleepers don't care. Cap boosters and WH's aren't always a good match. If you rely on them and you run out...
We run these types of sites often with a single battle cruiser. In the highest Ladar sites, you might find a couple of sleeper bs'. In that case a single tech-1 bs is fine. (Maybe a warp out or two.) We don't use sentry drones, although I know others do. Too expensive. We just load up a bay load of tech-1 lights, and throw them away.
Are you doing this solo? Might want to change out the Particle Dispersion Augmentors for missile damage mods, or tank. With +85% ECM + Scorp + Augmentors = overkill.
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gnome blood
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Posted - 2009.10.28 05:53:00 -
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Edited by: gnome blood on 28/10/2009 05:54:43 NEVER use multispectral jammers for anything, ever.
Faction-specific work just as well on sleepers, but give about twice the stats in return.
Other than that, I donŠt see why you need the ewar rigs, use cap or armor rigs.
I have an idea for you; take a scorpion with some jammers, go to a wormhole, find an anomaly, test how god your ECM is.
ItŠs how youŠd think it works if someone military would invent it in real life. It actually works, most of the time!
Edit: You really only need 2 scorps, the others can be DPS ships. YouŠll permajam sleepers with one, the second is only to be completely safe.
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Anniki Linares
Amarr Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2009.10.28 13:30:00 -
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http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=VitalCoreReservoir
2 is more than enough for the loadout u have and i recommend to stick in RSB with targeting range script.
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Aeladon
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Posted - 2009.10.28 13:39:00 -
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good call on the racial jammers sleepers...heard that from a couple people. i didn't know or realize that any racial would work. i'm prolly gonna also swap out the jamming rigs for trimarks. but lik i said that was a first thoughts.
anybody have experience jamming sleeper BS?
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gnome blood
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Posted - 2009.10.28 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Aeladon
anybody have experience jamming sleeper BS?
Yeah, it works quite well, but you need some buffer in case you miss a jam, cause they really, really hate ECM. IŠm not sure how effective they are in Core sites, however. Going from what IŠve seen in the lower classes, a Scorpion or two will do you very well.
Tactics are fairly standar; get in range, align to a celestial and jam everything in the site as best you can, warp out if you start taking serious damage.
Oh, and donŠt try it with a Blackbird in a core site, as one missed BS jam means youŠre instapopped.
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Aeladon
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Posted - 2009.10.28 16:54:00 -
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ok let me pose another question... the bonuses on this WH seem to be extremely good. is this typical? the bonuses seem quite good.
an after thought...do the WH bonus affect sleepers? i wouldn't think they would but i wanna make sure |
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.10.28 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Aeladon ok let me pose another question... the bonuses on this WH seem to be extremely good. is this typical? the bonuses seem quite good.
an after thought...do the WH bonus affect sleepers? i wouldn't think they would but i wanna make sure
They do not affect sleepers as far as I know.
Not all WHs have bonuses/penalties...but those that do, scale with the class. Class Vs have very strong bonuses/penalties. Wolf Rayets, for example, class VI, DOUBLE the damage of small guns.
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Haram Haram
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Posted - 2009.10.30 10:22:00 -
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A t1 BC like a drake would do the job just fine.
Unless ofcourse you are going into a Rarified, Instrumental or Vital ofcourse. You need more dps to kill 1 of the BS'es fast enough to lower the incoming damage. (i.e. more bc's, up to 3 in a normal system without damage effects) Also, with these system effects fitting a racial ecm when in a gang would give a good chance to get a lucky cycle now and then. not required for any of teh other not named gavs or ladars.
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