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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.28 04:11:00 -
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Scammer name: Willowrosenberg Location: Jita
This guy has offered me to trade his Raven Navy Issue for my Full set of Improved Implants+5 (5 pieces) and kept on convincing me that the ship is easy to sell, he linked me the real raven navy issue ship, then during the trade, he replaced it with a ship named Raven Navy Issue, I thought that's the ship, so I accept the trade without thinking. After the trade, I right click it and found out it's got 'view market details' option available then I clicked it and found out its real value is roughly 75m, then I repackaged it and found out IT'S A RAVEN BUT NAMED AS 'RAVEN NAVY ISSUE' :( With a rough calculation, I lost around 500-550m isk to him, such an ******* scammer deserve some punishments with no doubts >:( And I believe the one who deserve more punishment will be these ship model designers, lack of efforts, making these ships have exactly the same appearance, if they paid some extra time to remodel it or change its appearance even a bit slightly, a lot of scams could've been avoided!!! >:(((
****!
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Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy Maru Ka'ge
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Posted - 2009.10.28 04:23:00 -
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Edited by: Nerogk Shorn on 28/10/2009 04:24:13 Lol, that's a good one isn't it?
Edit: Sadly you have to have someone able to fly it change the name. Alts that can't fly it can't change the name. Also, is there an issue with the length of the name coming into play? How long can a name be?
The Bulbasaur Wizard D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.28 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nerogk Shorn Edited by: Nerogk Shorn on 28/10/2009 04:24:13 Lol, that's a good one isn't it?
Edit: Sadly you have to have someone able to fly it change the name. Alts that can't fly it can't change the name. Also, is there an issue with the length of the name coming into play? How long can a name be?
It's not funny, seriously, 500-550m(more than enough to purchase an orca)loss!!!!!!!! :(
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PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar yo i'm posting
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Posted - 2009.10.28 04:56:00 -
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i for one offer congratulations to willowrosenberg
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Pudnucker
Filthy Scum Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.28 04:56:00 -
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Edited by: Pudnucker on 28/10/2009 04:56:36 Zuel story bro.
Edit: Yes it is funny. IBTL!
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau PROJECTILE WEAPONS ARE CORPSE LAUNCHERS! LASERS ARE SOUL CANNONS!
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Brooke Brown
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Posted - 2009.10.28 05:04:00 -
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So you got scammed and that means you need to pick on the ship model designers because some ships look alike?
Aside from that, always check the info on a ship in a contract before you accept... always. |

Grunanca
Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.10.28 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:19:10 GM's won't care about such scam issues anyway and the game will eventually lose all the good players!(we'll see in the future) >:(
Why would you lose good players? Good players would for sure not be stupid enough to fall for such a scam....
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KTog Juriss
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.10.28 05:34:00 -
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As many have said already, ALWAYS check info before accepting the contract/trade. Blaming the designers for this is lazy and stupid, you're only trying to blame anyone but you for this mistake. Mistakes happen, scams happen, learn from it and move on.
On the small chance this isn't a troll, the obvious answer to why a lot of ships look alike is, they have the same hulls. Although they usually have a color difference, checking the info on the ship will catch the scam every time. Best of luck in your continued adventures in Eve. Be glad this lesson ONLY cost you 500mil. |

Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.28 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: KTog Juriss As many have said already, ALWAYS check info before accepting the contract/trade. Blaming the designers for this is lazy and stupid, you're only trying to blame anyone but you for this mistake. Mistakes happen, scams happen, learn from it and move on.
On the small chance this isn't a troll, the obvious answer to why a lot of ships look alike is, they have the same hulls. Although they usually have a color difference, checking the info on the ship will catch the scam every time. Best of luck in your continued adventures in Eve. Be glad this lesson ONLY cost you 500mil.
500m isk means a lot to me, I'm not a hardcore player, cannot generate more than 10m isk per day. :( Well, ur right, this lesson taught me not to trust anyone in game nor in real life, and more than that the global econ recession situation in real life directly reflected in the virtual world too, but still this lesson was way too pricy for a newbie, doubt I'll be able to move on!~ T_T
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Glopan Sowdah
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.28 06:04:00 -
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1. You can do the same thing he did and get regain your losses. Surely there's at least one other idiot in Jita ripe for a scamming. 2. Don't ever buy a house, car, or join the military. Those contracts require "slightly" more reading and can cost you lots of RL ISK and even get you shipped off to die in some 3rd world country you didn't even know existed. 3. If you have any stuff left, can I have it?
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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.28 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: PostmasterGeneral i for one offer congratulations to willowrosenberg
So Willowrosenberg is ur alt or you're actually one of those scammers? I despite players who pays no efforts for getting things they don't deserve, they're generally a bunch of dishonest, cheap, worthless scumbags!
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Jonny 101
Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.10.28 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu
Originally by: PostmasterGeneral i for one offer congratulations to willowrosenberg
So Willowrosenberg is ur alt or you're actually one of those scammers? I despite players who pays no efforts for getting things they don't deserve, they're generally a bunch of dishonest, cheap, worthless scumbags!
You are a rude little man with a lot of anger, I for one applaud Willowrosenberg for what seems to me, to be a perfectly legitimate business transaction.
He gave you a ship, you gave him implants, what does the name of the ship have to do with anything? If the values are scewed, well that just means he's the better trade.
I don't think its fair to blame Willow for your own foolish deficencies Signature needs to be more EVE related. Zymurgist |

Doc Robertson
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Posted - 2009.10.28 07:07:00 -
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...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.28 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Doc Robertson ...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
I'm the one who's falling off the edge :D
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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.28 07:26:00 -
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Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 07:27:06
Originally by: Jonny 101
Originally by: Xeth Hu
Originally by: PostmasterGeneral i for one offer congratulations to willowrosenberg
So Willowrosenberg is ur alt or you're actually one of those scammers? I despite players who pays no efforts for getting things they don't deserve, they're generally a bunch of dishonest, cheap, worthless scumbags!
You are a rude little man with a lot of anger, I for one applaud Willowrosenberg for what seems to me, to be a perfectly legitimate business transaction.
He gave you a ship, you gave him implants, what does the name of the ship have to do with anything? If the values are scewed, well that just means he's the better trade.
I don't think its fair to blame Willow for your own foolish deficencies
Rude? I don't think so. With a bit of anger? Of course! Before we trade, he promised that he would trade a Raven Navy Issue for my +5 implants, but he gave me a fake one and you call that a perfectly legitimate business transaction?! Even newbies won't agree to trade full set of +5 implants for a raven unless he cheated. A single +5 implants would worth 50-60m more than a raven, not to mention full set of 5 implants. Imagine how do you feel if ur the one who's receiving the faked raven navy issue at this point...
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Grunanca
Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.10.28 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 07:27:06
Originally by: Jonny 101
Originally by: Xeth Hu
Originally by: PostmasterGeneral i for one offer congratulations to willowrosenberg
So Willowrosenberg is ur alt or you're actually one of those scammers? I despite players who pays no efforts for getting things they don't deserve, they're generally a bunch of dishonest, cheap, worthless scumbags!
You are a rude little man with a lot of anger, I for one applaud Willowrosenberg for what seems to me, to be a perfectly legitimate business transaction.
He gave you a ship, you gave him implants, what does the name of the ship have to do with anything? If the values are scewed, well that just means he's the better trade.
I don't think its fair to blame Willow for your own foolish deficencies
Rude? I don't think so. With a bit of anger? Of course! Before we trade, he promised that he would trade a Raven Navy Issue for my +5 implants, but he gave me a fake one and you call that a perfectly legitimate business transaction?! Even newbies won't agree to trade full set of +5 implants for a raven unless he cheated. A single +5 implants would worth 50-60m more than a raven, not to mention full set of 5 implants. Imagine how do you feel if ur the one who's receiving the faked raven navy issue at this point...
I would feel extremely embarassed and keep far away from the forums with it.
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2009.10.28 08:04:00 -
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Smell a troll...
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Graic Gabtar
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Posted - 2009.10.28 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: 128th ABC123 Smell a troll...
Agree.
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Lucia Wilber
King's Pride Manufacturing Inc.
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Posted - 2009.10.28 09:51:00 -
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THIS IS GAME!
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.10.28 10:01:00 -
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Terribad Troll with even worse victims.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves. ----
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Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.10.28 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:19:10 Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:18:04 Scammer name: Willowrosenberg Location: Jita Date: 10/27/09
This guy named Willowrosenberg has offered me to trade his Raven Navy Issue for my Full set of Improved Implants+5 (5 pieces) and kept on convincing me that the ship is easy to sell, he linked me the real raven navy issue ship, then during the trade, he replaced it with a ship named Raven Navy Issue, I thought that's the ship, so I accepted the trade without thinking. After the trade, I right clicked it and found out it's got 'view market details' option available then I selected the option and found out its real value was roughly 75m, then I repackaged it and found out IT'S A RAVEN BUT NAMED AS 'RAVEN NAVY ISSUE' :( With a rough calculation, I lost around 500-550m isk to him, such an ******* scammer deserve some punishments with no doubts!!! GM's won't care about such scam issues anyway and the game will eventually lose all the good players!(we'll see in the future) >:( And I believe the one who deserve more punishment will be these ship model designers, lacking of efforts and made lots of those T1 & T2 ships have exactly the same appearance, (for example, Vexor & Ishtar). if they ever paid some extra time to remodel it or change its appearance even a bit slightly, a lot of scams could've been avoided!!! >:(((
****!
In an effort to help others.
TL;DR "CCP FIX MY STUPID"
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Jamyl TashMurkon
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.28 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lucia Wilber THIS IS GAME!
GAME? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!
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Buhhdust Princess
Killer Koalas R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.10.28 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:19:10 Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:18:04 Scammer name: Willowrosenberg Location: Jita Date: 10/27/09
This guy named Willowrosenberg has offered me to trade his Raven Navy Issue for my Full set of Improved Implants+5 (5 pieces) and kept on convincing me that the ship is easy to sell, he linked me the real raven navy issue ship, then during the trade, he replaced it with a ship named Raven Navy Issue, I thought that's the ship, so I accepted the trade without thinking. After the trade, I right clicked it and found out it's got 'view market details' option available then I selected the option and found out its real value was roughly 75m, then I repackaged it and found out IT'S A RAVEN BUT NAMED AS 'RAVEN NAVY ISSUE' :( With a rough calculation, I lost around 500-550m isk to him, such an ******* scammer deserve some punishments with no doubts!!! GM's won't care about such scam issues anyway and the game will eventually lose all the good players!(we'll see in the future) >:( And I believe the one who deserve more punishment will be these ship model designers, lacking of efforts and made lots of those T1 & T2 ships have exactly the same appearance, (for example, Vexor & Ishtar). if they ever paid some extra time to remodel it or change its appearance even a bit slightly, a lot of scams could've been avoided!!! >:(((
****!
Troll worked, nice job op!
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Chunky Milk
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Posted - 2009.10.28 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:19:10 Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:18:04 Scammer name: Willowrosenberg Location: Jita Date: 10/27/09
"the game will eventually lose all the crap players that fall for scams! ****!
I fixed the comment for you OP
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Nyxster
Gatecrashers
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Posted - 2009.10.28 12:33:00 -
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BREAKING NEWS!
Dishonest player in dishonest business transaction in Game built around deception, betrayal and murder!
moar tears at 10.
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War Kitten
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Posted - 2009.10.28 12:47:00 -
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Welcome to EveÖ
You met a shady used car salesman, congrats. Pay closer attention next time.
"Here's your sign." - Bill Engvall |

Don Pellegrino
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Posted - 2009.10.28 13:14:00 -
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Contracts are your friends.
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Ronja
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.10.28 13:23:00 -
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lol, same ol' trick seems to still work. Considering it takes too much effort to execute most of us too lazy to even bother but fun hearing about ebil scammer :) Welcome to school of hard knocks aka EvE
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Delenne Sheridan
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Posted - 2009.10.28 18:45:00 -
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You got scammed by someone who named themselves after a character from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
Originally by: Xeth Hu Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:19:10 Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:18:04 Scammer name: Willowrosenberg Location: Jita Date: 10/27/09
This guy named Willowrosenberg has offered me to trade his Raven Navy Issue for my Full set of Improved Implants+5 (5 pieces) and kept on convincing me that the ship is easy to sell, he linked me the real raven navy issue ship, then during the trade, he replaced it with a ship named Raven Navy Issue, I thought that's the ship, so I accepted the trade without thinking. After the trade, I right clicked it and found out it's got 'view market details' option available then I selected the option and found out its real value was roughly 75m, then I repackaged it and found out IT'S A RAVEN BUT NAMED AS 'RAVEN NAVY ISSUE' :( With a rough calculation, I lost around 500-550m isk to him, such an ******* scammer deserve some punishments with no doubts!!! GM's won't care about such scam issues anyway and the game will eventually lose all the good players!(we'll see in the future) >:( And I believe the one who deserve more punishment will be these ship model designers, lacking of efforts and made lots of those T1 & T2 ships have exactly the same appearance, (for example, Vexor & Ishtar). if they ever paid some extra time to remodel it or change its appearance even a bit slightly, a lot of scams could've been avoided!!! >:(((
****!
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Marchocias
Silent Ninja's
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Posted - 2009.10.28 19:02:00 -
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Excellent work by Willowrosenberg.
Don't worry about it Xeth Hu... there will be plenty of opportunity for you to make some ISK off the back of someone elses hard work. Just remember that in Eve, like in real life, that everyone is somebody elses breakfast at some point.
And whether you're beating/scamming someone else, or having your own arse handed to you, it should be fun either way. If it isn't, then you're doing it wrong.
---- I belong to Silent Ninja (Hopefully that should cover it). |
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