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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.28 04:11:00 -
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Scammer name: Willowrosenberg
Location: Jita
This guy has offered me to trade his Raven Navy Issue for my Full set of Improved Implants+5 (5 pieces) and kept on convincing me that the ship is easy to sell, he linked me the real raven navy issue ship, then during the trade, he replaced it with a ship named Raven Navy Issue, I thought that's the ship, so I accept the trade without thinking. After the trade, I right click it and found out it's got 'view market details' option available then I clicked it and found out its real value is roughly 75m, then I repackaged it and found out IT'S A RAVEN BUT NAMED AS 'RAVEN NAVY ISSUE' :(
With a rough calculation, I lost around 500-550m isk to him, such an ******* scammer deserve some punishments with no doubts >:(
And I believe the one who deserve more punishment will be these ship model designers, lack of efforts, making these ships have exactly the same appearance, if they paid some extra time to remodel it or change its appearance even a bit slightly, a lot of scams could've been avoided!!! >:(((
****!
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Nerogk Shorn
Caldari
Royal Hiigaran Navy
Maru Ka'ge
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Posted - 2009.10.28 04:23:00 -
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Edited by: Nerogk Shorn on 28/10/2009 04:24:13
Lol, that's a good one isn't it?
Edit: Sadly you have to have someone able to fly it change the name. Alts that can't fly it can't change the name. Also, is there an issue with the length of the name coming into play? How long can a name be?
The Bulbasaur Wizard
D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.28 04:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Nerogk Shorn
Edited by: Nerogk Shorn on 28/10/2009 04:24:13
Lol, that's a good one isn't it?
Edit: Sadly you have to have someone able to fly it change the name. Alts that can't fly it can't change the name. Also, is there an issue with the length of the name coming into play? How long can a name be?
It's not funny, seriously, 500-550m(more than enough to purchase an orca)loss!!!!!!!! :(
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PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar
yo i'm posting
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Posted - 2009.10.28 04:56:00 -
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i for one offer congratulations to willowrosenberg
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Pudnucker
Filthy Scum
Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.28 04:56:00 -
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Edited by: Pudnucker on 28/10/2009 04:56:36
Zuel story bro.
Edit: Yes it is funny. IBTL!
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
PROJECTILE WEAPONS ARE CORPSE LAUNCHERS!
LASERS ARE SOUL CANNONS!
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Brooke Brown
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Posted - 2009.10.28 05:04:00 -
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So you got scammed and that means you need to pick on the ship model designers because some ships look alike?
Aside from that, always check the info on a ship in a contract before you accept... always. |
Grunanca
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.10.28 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:19:10
GM's won't care about such scam issues anyway and the game will eventually lose all the good players!(we'll see in the future) >:(
Why would you lose good players? Good players would for sure not be stupid enough to fall for such a scam....
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KTog Juriss
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.10.28 05:34:00 -
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As many have said already, ALWAYS check info before accepting the contract/trade. Blaming the designers for this is lazy and stupid, you're only trying to blame anyone but you for this mistake. Mistakes happen, scams happen, learn from it and move on.
On the small chance this isn't a troll, the obvious answer to why a lot of ships look alike is, they have the same hulls. Although they usually have a color difference, checking the info on the ship will catch the scam every time. Best of luck in your continued adventures in Eve. Be glad this lesson ONLY cost you 500mil. |
Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.28 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: KTog Juriss
As many have said already, ALWAYS check info before accepting the contract/trade. Blaming the designers for this is lazy and stupid, you're only trying to blame anyone but you for this mistake. Mistakes happen, scams happen, learn from it and move on.
On the small chance this isn't a troll, the obvious answer to why a lot of ships look alike is, they have the same hulls. Although they usually have a color difference, checking the info on the ship will catch the scam every time. Best of luck in your continued adventures in Eve. Be glad this lesson ONLY cost you 500mil.
500m isk means a lot to me, I'm not a hardcore player, cannot generate more than 10m isk per day. :(
Well, ur right, this lesson taught me not to trust anyone in game nor in real life, and more than that the global econ recession situation in real life directly reflected in the virtual world too, but still this lesson was way too pricy for a newbie, doubt I'll be able to move on!~ T_T
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Glopan Sowdah
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.28 06:04:00 -
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1. You can do the same thing he did and get regain your losses. Surely there's at least one other idiot in Jita ripe for a scamming.
2. Don't ever buy a house, car, or join the military. Those contracts require "slightly" more reading and can cost you lots of RL ISK and even get you shipped off to die in some 3rd world country you didn't even know existed.
3. If you have any stuff left, can I have it?
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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.28 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: PostmasterGeneral
i for one offer congratulations to willowrosenberg
So Willowrosenberg is ur alt or you're actually one of those scammers? I despite players who pays no efforts for getting things they don't deserve, they're generally a bunch of dishonest, cheap, worthless scumbags!
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Jonny 101
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.10.28 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu
Originally by: PostmasterGeneral
i for one offer congratulations to willowrosenberg
So Willowrosenberg is ur alt or you're actually one of those scammers? I despite players who pays no efforts for getting things they don't deserve, they're generally a bunch of dishonest, cheap, worthless scumbags!
You are a rude little man with a lot of anger, I for one applaud Willowrosenberg for what seems to me, to be a perfectly legitimate business transaction.
He gave you a ship, you gave him implants, what does the name of the ship have to do with anything? If the values are scewed, well that just means he's the better trade.
I don't think its fair to blame Willow for your own foolish deficencies
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Doc Robertson
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Posted - 2009.10.28 07:07:00 -
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...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.28 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Doc Robertson
...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
I'm the one who's falling off the edge :D
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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.28 07:26:00 -
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Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 07:27:06
Originally by: Jonny 101
Originally by: Xeth Hu
Originally by: PostmasterGeneral
i for one offer congratulations to willowrosenberg
So Willowrosenberg is ur alt or you're actually one of those scammers? I despite players who pays no efforts for getting things they don't deserve, they're generally a bunch of dishonest, cheap, worthless scumbags!
You are a rude little man with a lot of anger, I for one applaud Willowrosenberg for what seems to me, to be a perfectly legitimate business transaction.
He gave you a ship, you gave him implants, what does the name of the ship have to do with anything? If the values are scewed, well that just means he's the better trade.
I don't think its fair to blame Willow for your own foolish deficencies
Rude? I don't think so. With a bit of anger? Of course! Before we trade, he promised that he would trade a Raven Navy Issue for my +5 implants, but he gave me a fake one and you call that a perfectly legitimate business transaction?! Even newbies won't agree to trade full set of +5 implants for a raven unless he cheated. A single +5 implants would worth 50-60m more than a raven, not to mention full set of 5 implants. Imagine how do you feel if ur the one who's receiving the faked raven navy issue at this point...
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Grunanca
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.10.28 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 07:27:06
Originally by: Jonny 101
Originally by: Xeth Hu
Originally by: PostmasterGeneral
i for one offer congratulations to willowrosenberg
So Willowrosenberg is ur alt or you're actually one of those scammers? I despite players who pays no efforts for getting things they don't deserve, they're generally a bunch of dishonest, cheap, worthless scumbags!
You are a rude little man with a lot of anger, I for one applaud Willowrosenberg for what seems to me, to be a perfectly legitimate business transaction.
He gave you a ship, you gave him implants, what does the name of the ship have to do with anything? If the values are scewed, well that just means he's the better trade.
I don't think its fair to blame Willow for your own foolish deficencies
Rude? I don't think so. With a bit of anger? Of course! Before we trade, he promised that he would trade a Raven Navy Issue for my +5 implants, but he gave me a fake one and you call that a perfectly legitimate business transaction?! Even newbies won't agree to trade full set of +5 implants for a raven unless he cheated. A single +5 implants would worth 50-60m more than a raven, not to mention full set of 5 implants. Imagine how do you feel if ur the one who's receiving the faked raven navy issue at this point...
I would feel extremely embarassed and keep far away from the forums with it.
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force
Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2009.10.28 08:04:00 -
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Smell a troll...
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Graic Gabtar
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Posted - 2009.10.28 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: 128th ABC123
Smell a troll...
Agree.
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Lucia Wilber
King's Pride Manufacturing Inc.
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Posted - 2009.10.28 09:51:00 -
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THIS IS GAME!
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.10.28 10:01:00 -
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Terribad Troll with even worse victims.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
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Lightningshade
Caldari
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.10.28 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:19:10
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:18:04
Scammer name: Willowrosenberg
Location: Jita
Date: 10/27/09
This guy named Willowrosenberg has offered me to trade his Raven Navy Issue for my Full set of Improved Implants+5 (5 pieces) and kept on convincing me that the ship is easy to sell, he linked me the real raven navy issue ship, then during the trade, he replaced it with a ship named Raven Navy Issue, I thought that's the ship, so I accepted the trade without thinking. After the trade, I right clicked it and found out it's got 'view market details' option available then I selected the option and found out its real value was roughly 75m, then I repackaged it and found out IT'S A RAVEN BUT NAMED AS 'RAVEN NAVY ISSUE' :(
With a rough calculation, I lost around 500-550m isk to him, such an ******* scammer deserve some punishments with no doubts!!! GM's won't care about such scam issues anyway and the game will eventually lose all the good players!(we'll see in the future) >:(
And I believe the one who deserve more punishment will be these ship model designers, lacking of efforts and made lots of those T1 & T2 ships have exactly the same appearance, (for example, Vexor & Ishtar). if they ever paid some extra time to remodel it or change its appearance even a bit slightly, a lot of scams could've been avoided!!! >:(((
****!
In an effort to help others.
TL;DR "CCP FIX MY STUPID"
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Jamyl TashMurkon
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.28 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lucia Wilber
THIS IS GAME!
GAME?
THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!
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Buhhdust Princess
Killer Koalas
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.10.28 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:19:10
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:18:04
Scammer name: Willowrosenberg
Location: Jita
Date: 10/27/09
This guy named Willowrosenberg has offered me to trade his Raven Navy Issue for my Full set of Improved Implants+5 (5 pieces) and kept on convincing me that the ship is easy to sell, he linked me the real raven navy issue ship, then during the trade, he replaced it with a ship named Raven Navy Issue, I thought that's the ship, so I accepted the trade without thinking. After the trade, I right clicked it and found out it's got 'view market details' option available then I selected the option and found out its real value was roughly 75m, then I repackaged it and found out IT'S A RAVEN BUT NAMED AS 'RAVEN NAVY ISSUE' :(
With a rough calculation, I lost around 500-550m isk to him, such an ******* scammer deserve some punishments with no doubts!!! GM's won't care about such scam issues anyway and the game will eventually lose all the good players!(we'll see in the future) >:(
And I believe the one who deserve more punishment will be these ship model designers, lacking of efforts and made lots of those T1 & T2 ships have exactly the same appearance, (for example, Vexor & Ishtar). if they ever paid some extra time to remodel it or change its appearance even a bit slightly, a lot of scams could've been avoided!!! >:(((
****!
Troll worked, nice job op!
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Chunky Milk
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Posted - 2009.10.28 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:19:10
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:18:04
Scammer name: Willowrosenberg
Location: Jita
Date: 10/27/09
"the game will eventually lose all the crap players that fall for scams!
****!
I fixed the comment for you OP
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Nyxster
Gatecrashers
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Posted - 2009.10.28 12:33:00 -
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BREAKING NEWS!
Dishonest player in dishonest business transaction in Game built around deception, betrayal and murder!
moar tears at 10.
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War Kitten
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Posted - 2009.10.28 12:47:00 -
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Welcome to EveÖ
You met a shady used car salesman, congrats. Pay closer attention next time.
"Here's your sign." - Bill Engvall |
Don Pellegrino
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Posted - 2009.10.28 13:14:00 -
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Contracts are your friends.
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Ronja
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.10.28 13:23:00 -
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lol, same ol' trick seems to still work. Considering it takes too much effort to execute most of us too lazy to even bother but fun hearing about ebil scammer :) Welcome to school of hard knocks aka EvE
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Delenne Sheridan
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Posted - 2009.10.28 18:45:00 -
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You got scammed by someone who named themselves after a character from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"?
Originally by: Xeth Hu
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:19:10
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:18:04
Scammer name: Willowrosenberg
Location: Jita
Date: 10/27/09
This guy named Willowrosenberg has offered me to trade his Raven Navy Issue for my Full set of Improved Implants+5 (5 pieces) and kept on convincing me that the ship is easy to sell, he linked me the real raven navy issue ship, then during the trade, he replaced it with a ship named Raven Navy Issue, I thought that's the ship, so I accepted the trade without thinking. After the trade, I right clicked it and found out it's got 'view market details' option available then I selected the option and found out its real value was roughly 75m, then I repackaged it and found out IT'S A RAVEN BUT NAMED AS 'RAVEN NAVY ISSUE' :(
With a rough calculation, I lost around 500-550m isk to him, such an ******* scammer deserve some punishments with no doubts!!! GM's won't care about such scam issues anyway and the game will eventually lose all the good players!(we'll see in the future) >:(
And I believe the one who deserve more punishment will be these ship model designers, lacking of efforts and made lots of those T1 & T2 ships have exactly the same appearance, (for example, Vexor & Ishtar). if they ever paid some extra time to remodel it or change its appearance even a bit slightly, a lot of scams could've been avoided!!! >:(((
****!
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Marchocias
Silent Ninja's
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Posted - 2009.10.28 19:02:00 -
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Excellent work by Willowrosenberg.
Don't worry about it Xeth Hu... there will be plenty of opportunity for you to make some ISK off the back of someone elses hard work. Just remember that in Eve, like in real life, that everyone is somebody elses breakfast at some point.
And whether you're beating/scamming someone else, or having your own arse handed to you, it should be fun either way. If it isn't, then you're doing it wrong.
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jimmyjam
Gallente
Sinner Among Saints
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.10.28 19:24:00 -
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ahhh the tears in this thread are yummmy.
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Pudnucker
Filthy Scum
Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.28 21:20:00 -
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Hi!
Just popped in again to say:
A fool and his implants are soon parted.
Vaya con dios!
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
PROJECTILE WEAPONS ARE CORPSE LAUNCHERS!
LASERS ARE SOUL CANNONS!
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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.29 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: Xeth Hu on 29/10/2009 01:10:32
Originally by: Pudnucker
Hi!
Just popped in again to say:
A fool and his implants are soon parted.
Vaya con dios!
Seriously, most ppl have no sympathies to the victims, but thumbs up to the dishonest players? Something's wrong with this society...
Conclusion: Evil>>>Good 
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Archangel Trinity
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Posted - 2009.10.29 01:40:00 -
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Any man who tells you crime doesn't pay has his hands in your pocket stealing your wallet.
Welcome to EVE, enjoy your stay
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Siriyana
Astrum Contract Services Group
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Posted - 2009.10.29 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu
So Willowrosenberg is ur alt or you're actually one of those scammers? I despite players who pays no efforts for getting things they don't deserve, they're generally a bunch of dishonest, cheap, worthless scumbags!
To be honest, this scammer had to put in plenty of effort to scam you. He had to wait until the right target appeared who MIGHT bite. Then he had to go through the trouble of pulling enough social scamming on you to get you to believe him, then capitalize on your laziness and get you to accept it, all while crossing his fingers that you don't discover it.
The problem is that your concept of effort and entitlement is different than his, and because of that you feel like you lost and that you were robbed.
I've never scammed before and willowrosenwhatever isn't my alt, but I for one offer congratulations to him as well.
ACSG Open Recruitment- AU/NZ/AsiaPac
ACSG Employment! |
Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.29 04:32:00 -
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Scamming is awful! nobody should scam. it's so wrong!
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mining grrl
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Posted - 2009.10.29 05:09:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Xeth Hu
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 22:02:22
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:19:10
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 28/10/2009 04:18:04
Scammer name: Willowrosenberg
Location: Jita
Date: 10/27/09
This guy named Willowrosenberg has offered me to trade his Raven Navy Issue for my Full set of Improved Implants+5 (5 pieces) and kept on convincing me that the ship is easy to sell, he linked me the real raven navy issue ship. Then he suggested to trade face to face in station for saving some isk from making a contract, and I couldn't believe that I agreed(probably I stayed online for too many hours and not in conscious). And during the trade, he replaced the real Raven Navy Issue with a ship named Raven Navy Issue in the trade window, I thought that's the right ship, so I accepted the trade without thinking. After the trade, I right clicked it and found out it's got 'view market details' option available then I selected the option and found out its real value was roughly 75m, then I repackaged it and found out IT'S A RAVEN BUT NAMED AS 'RAVEN NAVY ISSUE' :(
With a rough calculation, I lost around 500-550m isk to him, such an ******* scammer deserve some punishments with no doubts!!! GM's won't care about such scam issues anyway and the game will eventually lose all the good players!(we'll see in the future) >:(
And I believe the one who deserve more punishment will be these ship model designers, lacking of efforts and made lots of those T1 & T2 ships have exactly the same appearance, (for example, Vexor & Ishtar). if they ever paid some extra time to remodel it or change its appearance even a bit slightly, a lot of scams could've been avoided!!! >:(((
****!
Heres a hint right click show info. It's not hard to avoid such a newbish scam
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Nitemare111
Left Field Holding
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Posted - 2009.10.29 05:39:00 -
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OP, please pod yourself. Repeatedly. Don't forget to install new implants each time.
If you are too stupid/lazy to double-check something you're trading for, that's your fault. Oddly enough, just like real life.
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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.29 08:21:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Nitemare111
OP, please pod yourself. Repeatedly. Don't forget to install new implants each time.
If you are too stupid/lazy to double-check something you're trading for, that's your fault. Oddly enough, just like real life.
first of all ur statement is wrong, I rarely made any mistakes in real life. Since I stayed away from eve for over a year, and I just reactivated 3 weeks ago and made this alt, nice to get scammed right after I came back to the game, everything seems new to me again, plus the game has a lot of stuff that can confuse players sometimes. So you better stop calling ppl stupid unless you are a really brilliant guy in real life, I'd say careless is a more suitable word for players who got scammed by others.
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Helena Merian
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Posted - 2009.10.29 10:01:00 -
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Hi!
I am really sorry about your loss. And I want help you to recover it and probably make some nice profit. Years ago, when the t2 bpo lottery was still in place, I opened my mail one day and what did it say? I won a Vespa II bpo. Hooray! Since that day I had my own isk printing machine, and was happily using it all day long. Today I have like 50b isk in my wallet and realized that I am not going to be lucky only logging in every day or two, putting on some factory jobs, checking my sell and buy orders and watching growing my wallet bigger.
After reading your story I decide to give this bpo to you. However, to make sure you honor it and make use of it I require a deposit of one 1 billion isk into my wallet. When I received the payment I will contract it to you in Kaunokka.
Helena
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Azran Zala
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Posted - 2009.10.29 10:33:00 -
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I paid 140mil for a heron off the market in frarn,
true story I still have it, most expensive ship I own. 
Thats what ya get for not paying attention.
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Xaunt Rauber
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Posted - 2009.10.29 10:56:00 -
[42]
You made a mistake in-game, then expect merc's, pirates and scammer's who patrol these forum's to have sympathy? Head over to MD for that kinda stuff, all your doing here is proving that someone outplayed you, you lost money, and now your butthurt. The renaming then trading is the oldest trick in the book, and now because of this guy, you won't fall for it again, consider it a lesson, an expensive lession, but a lesson nonetheless.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.10.29 11:25:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Scamming is awful! nobody should scam. it's so wrong!
I don't have to carebear for isk and pay for all my accounts through scamming sucks, something needs to be done to protect the gullible.
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Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu
ppl do make mistakes sometimes, I'd say careless is a more suitable word for players who got scammed by others.
It is one thing making a mistake, it is another whining about it on end on the forums.
SUCK IT UP, YOU MESSED UP, IT IS YOUR FAULT FOR NOT CHECKING THE INFORMATION ON THE SHIP AND SIMPLY TRUSTING THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY A NAVY RAVEN. SCAMMING IS ALLOWED IN EVE, YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS.
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EVE-Online... Too rough for ya? Don't like it? GTFO...
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Emma Royd
Caldari
Maddled Gommerils
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Posted - 2009.10.29 15:50:00 -
[45]
Trollalt is Troll
Xeth Hu - born 2009.10.05
makes you a total of 24 days old, claiming to only make 10m a day gives a total of 240m, how have you aquired a full set of +5's?
have 2 hints, stay out of jita, and stay out of eve.
If you really traded 600m worth of implants for a standard raven and think it's the graphics departments fault then eve is perhaps not the game for you.
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Riedle
Minmatar
Raptus Regalitor
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Posted - 2009.10.29 16:06:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Helena Merian
Hi!
I am really sorry about your loss. And I want help you to recover it and probably make some nice profit. Years ago, when the t2 bpo lottery was still in place, I opened my mail one day and what did it say? I won a Vespa II bpo. Hooray! Since that day I had my own isk printing machine, and was happily using it all day long. Today I have like 50b isk in my wallet and realized that I am not going to be lucky only logging in every day or two, putting on some factory jobs, checking my sell and buy orders and watching growing my wallet bigger.
After reading your story I decide to give this bpo to you. However, to make sure you honor it and make use of it I require a deposit of one 1 billion isk into my wallet. When I received the payment I will contract it to you in Kaunokka.
Helena
Sounds legit ^^^
I'd go for it. A good offer for sure
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Lucious McFarsight
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Posted - 2009.10.29 17:29:00 -
[47]
I don't feel bad, people get scammed all the time in this game you should know that by now. Many actually make a living off of scamming naive people like you. Whether its replacing items in a trade window, having offered 500mil deposit GOON recruitment or even falling for something as obvious as contracting scams - if you fall for it, its your fault. Going around b****ing about it is not gonna make your problems away and ccp wont even bother looking at your case. If you lose, you lost, go out and mine for the next few days to get the isk back and don't fall for something like this again.
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.10.29 18:12:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Xeth Hu
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 29/10/2009 01:10:32
Seriously, most ppl have no sympathies to the victims, but thumbs up to the dishonest players? Something's wrong with this society...
Conclusion: Evil>>>Good
There is no good or evil, there are only those that have Scottish Folds and those who don't. 
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Susung
Alt Anti-defamation League
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Posted - 2009.10.29 22:00:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Xeth Hu
And I believe the one who deserve more punishment will be these ship model designers, Quote:
Yup it's the ship designers  killthemkillthemkillthem. Don't they understand that some people are too lazy\stupid to really look at contracts. Are you american? if not you should move here. we have built a whole country on the premise that we are really too stoopid to be help personally accountable for anything.
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LegoJoe
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Posted - 2009.10.29 22:27:00 -
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There certainly is good and evil, and your play reflects your life.
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Ethan Blue
Rubicon Vanguard
Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.10.29 22:37:00 -
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Whoever the guy is that scammed you (I forgot his name), that was me.
http://s1.gladiatus.us/game/c.php?uid=164303
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Emejees Deathbringer
Kuronuri Naval Federation
Codemonkey Construction Project
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Posted - 2009.10.29 22:47:00 -
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Haha I am sorry but its your fault. Go play something else. EVE is a game full of wolves. Who prey on the innocent and dumb  Welcome to the real world. This is EVE. Looking for sympathy go to WoW. By the way Please "contract" all your stuff to me. I will even give you 1 isk for it. LOL Ill even cover the contract fee's. So 10,001 isk will be your total. Remember I said contract. HAHAHA
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Satynic
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Posted - 2009.10.30 01:57:00 -
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Xeth Hu
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Posted - 2009.10.30 02:59:00 -
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Originally by: Emma Royd
Trollalt is Troll
Xeth Hu - born 2009.10.05
makes you a total of 24 days old, claiming to only make 10m a day gives a total of 240m, how have you aquired a full set of +5's?
have 2 hints, stay out of jita, and stay out of eve.
If you really traded 600m worth of implants for a standard raven and think it's the graphics departments fault then eve is perhaps not the game for you.
Did you read my replies? I clearly indicated this is my new alt, not my old account...
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Heloise ChateauBriande
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Posted - 2009.10.30 06:23:00 -
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I sympathize with you. Never trade with anyone and you will have no problems. Use the contract system that is what it is for.
- Helo
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Lana's Alt
Minmatar
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.10.30 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Heloise ChateauBriande
I sympathize with you. Never trade with anyone and you will have no problems. Use the contract system that is what it is for.
- Helo
I tried to use the contract system once.. My PC bluescreened.. True story!
Istvaan Shogaatsu: As with most such situations the answer is simple: rob them first. |
Vissintock
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Posted - 2009.10.30 06:53:00 -
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Hello. Noob here. I found your story amusing.
You have my sympathies, to be sure, but only in the "Yeah, been there, done that, funny as hell." kinda way. This happened to me in meatspace - don't ask - and I don't even chalk it up to "Lessons Learned" so much as to a moment of simple absent mindedness.  No one needs to scam in this game - even piracy is more justifiable here - putting it below pod-killing here. But it is still just a game in the end. Smile, shrug and move on. 
I do take issue with your calling out the 3D modelers though. Look at a car lot some times. There you will find multiple editions of a single car that have the EXACT same body, but different colors, interiors and specs. You're describing a different edition of one model of ship. Of course it will look the same - or nearly so. That's not lazy, that's realism. 
Just remember to check the specs next time, mmmmm kayyyy?
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.10.30 11:03:00 -
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Good grief, people still fall for this old scam?
Next time, use the contract system...
That aside, I see the trade window with someone you don't trust as more of a stpudity filter. It filters the stupid people from their shiney stuff.
Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator |
warrior wolf
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Posted - 2009.10.30 11:42:00 -
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Ive only been playing EVE for a month in a half or so, I dont scam and hate being scamed.... The best part about this game is the fact that this stuff happens and you have to watch your back, the fear of losing something of value in this EVE universe is the draw. The corp that im helping to build has lost over 1-2 bil in lessons of EVE, weather it be suicide ganking or just shear stupidity.
Our Motto: Yet another lesson learned the expensive way in EVE.. I love it.
If you dont want to get burned stay out of the kitchen.
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Haramir Haleths
Caldari
Nutella Bande
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Posted - 2009.10.30 13:56:00 -
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Go and suicide gank his POD in a golem or something very expensive.
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Fearr Dorchaa
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Posted - 2009.10.30 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Azran Zala
Edited by: Azran Zala on 29/10/2009 10:51:38
I once paid 140mil for a heron off the market in frarn,
true story I still have it, most expensive ship I own.
Thats what ya get for not paying attention.
Edit:
And in RL sometime ago, a Nigerian sold me a bankie of grass, and when I opened it, it really was... a bag of grass  most dissapointing.
looooool, selling grass ftw man !!!
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Agent Known
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Posted - 2009.10.30 21:40:00 -
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Aren't navy ravens green instead of blue anyway....?
On another note, I also have an annoying sig.
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Ava Starfire
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Posted - 2009.10.30 22:08:00 -
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OP, evemail me on your main, and ill send a gift contract for 100m to help ya out.
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Karadan Kaarwen
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Posted - 2009.11.02 17:50:00 -
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Getting scammed:
You're doing it right.
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Saul Reaver
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.11.03 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu
Edited by: Xeth Hu on 29/10/2009 08:29:47
Scammer name: Willowrosenberg
Location: Jita
Date: 10/27/09
This guy named Willowrosenberg has offered me to trade his Raven Navy Issue for my Full set of Improved Implants+5 (5 pieces) and kept on convincing me that the ship is easy to sell, he linked me the real raven navy issue ship. Then he suggested to trade face to face in station for saving some isk from making a contract, and I couldn't believe that I agreed(probably I stayed online for too many hours and not in conscious). And during the trade, he replaced the real Raven Navy Issue with a ship named Raven Navy Issue in the trade window, I thought that's the right ship, so I accepted the trade without thinking. After the trade, I right clicked it and found out it's got 'view market details' option available then I selected the option and found out its real value was roughly 75m, then I repackaged it and found out IT'S A RAVEN BUT NAMED AS 'RAVEN NAVY ISSUE' :(
With a rough calculation, I lost around 500-550m isk to him, such an ******* scammer deserve some punishments with no doubts!!! GM's won't care about such scam issues anyway and the game will eventually lose all the good players!(we'll see in the future) >:(
And I believe the one who deserve more punishment will be these ship model designers, lacking of efforts and made lots of those T1 & T2 ships have exactly the same appearance, (for example, Vexor & Ishtar). if they ever paid some extra time to remodel it or change its appearance even a bit slightly, a lot of scams could've been avoided!!! >:(((
So here I'd like to let you guys know, if some strangers request a trade with you or attempt to start a private conversation with you, pls be more cautious or just reject them right away, don't be too nice to them, their motivation probably is just for attempting to scam you. Double or even triple check items before click 'accept'...
The same thing happened to me during my first month in eve a few years ago. I thought i was buying a Cerberus and ended up with a Caracal. I was so ****ed i undocked the Caracal with Saul and blew the crap out of it with my alt.
Always check the info on the ship before accepting the trade. There is no point in petitioning as CCP views scamming as an ingame tactic.
Learn from your mistakes mate. I wish you all the best. Saul.
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Elite Qin
Caldari
APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2009.11.03 21:02:00 -
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Obvious troll is obvious
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Roastedpot
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.11.03 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu
and the game will eventually lose all the good players!(we'll see in the future) >:(
i know your not real, which is another reason i make this point.. are you implying your one of the good eve players/trolls?
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Ticarus Hellbrandt
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Posted - 2009.11.03 23:45:00 -
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take said 'navy raven' and scam soemone else and recoup your loss
welcome to eve
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Lilywinter
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Posted - 2009.11.04 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ava Starfire
OP, evemail me on your main, and ill send a gift contract for 100m to help ya out.
i believe his main is "industrialengineer"
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GoGo Rens
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Posted - 2009.11.04 12:51:00 -
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reason they look alike, is because a navy raven is just a moded raven.
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necunoscutul
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Posted - 2009.11.05 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: necunoscutul on 05/11/2009 11:46:08
op - meet me in jita 4-4 and i will trade you a navy raven for 500mil so you can troll the forums to say you got a 'good' deal
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Jessica Lorelei
Minmatar
Decimus Corp
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Posted - 2009.11.05 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Xeth Hu
boo hu 
...see what i did there?
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The'Best Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.11.05 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Elite Qin
Obvious troll is obvious
ALEKSEYEV KARRDE FOR CSM |
Bongo Debbie
Minmatar
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.11.05 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: The'Best Hellfury
Originally by: Elite Qin
Obvious troll is obvious
Dear Lexa,
I have 13m sp should I start flying bigger ships. I can't imagine having the responsibility to fly a Megathron. I think I would just end up hurting somebody.
Regards,
Spank
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