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Kirtur Muhaha
Gallente Ragnarok Rising
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Posted - 2009.11.01 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Nur AlHuda Edited by: Nur AlHuda on 01/11/2009 02:22:04 Was a glorious day for Amarr empire and Caldari state. We could see that SF was ready to ally with pirates, mercs basicaly with everyone just to protect an unimportant pos. Well unimportant couse SF evacuated their titan a day ago. It was just that their bait didnt worked out so well. I nearly cried from hapines when i looked on the battlefield and saw all those star fraction wrecks.
This time they didnt tried to be heroes some of them engaged autodestruct sequence (too late) or tried to get out of warp disruptor range - didnt worked either.
Its been my understanding that the amarr militia was the one who originally paid The Violent Society to Engage said "Unimportant POS" in the first place My Head Is On Loose But The Screws Are Tight |
SuiJuris
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.11.01 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kirtur Muhaha
Originally by: Nur AlHuda Edited by: Nur AlHuda on 01/11/2009 02:22:04 Was a glorious day for Amarr empire and Caldari state. We could see that SF was ready to ally with pirates, mercs basicaly with everyone just to protect an unimportant pos. Well unimportant couse SF evacuated their titan a day ago. It was just that their bait didnt worked out so well. I nearly cried from hapines when i looked on the battlefield and saw all those star fraction wrecks.
This time they didnt tried to be heroes some of them engaged autodestruct sequence (too late) or tried to get out of warp disruptor range - didnt worked either.
Its been my understanding that the amarr militia was the one who originally paid The Violent Society to Engage said "Unimportant POS" in the first place
Once again, We did not pay them to do so. They contacted us saying they were going to do so and asked if we would be interested in Helping out. Since SF has been a long standing Enemy of the Amarr Empire we were more then Happy to join them.
This fight was truly glorious and Amarr Stood Strong and held the field. We were able to overpower the combined might of SF and ALL the Allies it was able to muster on this day. Alas if only we hadn't received false intel on the Cry Havoc Fleet, we failed epicly and sat next to them for a good while before people finally reported that Cry Havoc was firing on us. I think Cry Havoc was responsible for the vast majority of losses sustained.
ooc - I stated ahead of time on these forums that destroying that pos was a waste of time and a new one would be anchored within hours of its destruction. We knew ahead of time that this would occur but decided that the EPIC battle and ensueing carrier killmails would be worth it, and they were. (Hooray Game Mechanics, no way to prevent someone from anchoring a pos in a system without anchoring one of your own on every moon in the system...) --- I am taking pre orders for Navy Armageddons |
Zephyr SkyHunter
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2009.11.01 06:50:00 -
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Confirming that our participation in this event was not related to a contract.
But why does that matter again?
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Roland San
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Posted - 2009.11.01 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: RougeOperator I died several times trying to aid the SF forces. I warped in many times shooting at targets of opportunity where I could. Height of the battle had some 400+ in system.
o7 to the SF forces.
I wish that there had not been so much lag it really killed any true hop of a support fleet being able to do anything when the grid was loading. I died even before i was out of warp on my end a bit.
The above post stand out to me, as during the BS engagement with the carriers, RougeOperator was the ONLY Minmatar militia member on field at one point, within 20km of the epicenter of the engagement. In along list of dozens of GCCing neutral BS's, he stood out as the only WT star engaging in close range. Others hovered on the periphery.
I bring this up because there was one lone pilot deep in the fray sacrificing his ship, no matter that it was an Arbitrator, while the rest of his militia fleet were happy to sit around camping the station and gates.
It was a good fight all round by all the parties involved. In the end, the Amarrian fleet held the 5-1 POS field and left nothing but cargo containers full of useless charges, mods and metal scraps only to have the joint Min-Gal fleet come in shortly after we were done cleaning up and vacating the field. From their kill documentation, it appears that they subsequently assisted in forcibly removing the remaining SF hard installations that survived the POS assault.
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Tobias Primus
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2009.11.01 09:07:00 -
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Edited by: Tobias Primus on 01/11/2009 09:07:41 Star Fraction remain unusually quiet in this post.
Perhaps even they can't spin themselves out of such a crushing, over-whelming defeat?
And from 'Fortress Kamela's' ruins glows the True Holy Amarrian Fortress- the one which exists strongly within all who follow its pure path, being inexstinguishable, unbreachable, and guiding to a full undoubtable Victory in fight against any that stands in its way.
Take heed, you Heathen- Our Fortress stands impenetrable against any wordly army, even an infinite one. Your carriers and Battle Stations are nothing in comparison to the Burning Light we hold against you.
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The Yzzerman
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2009.11.01 09:10:00 -
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First great fight too all who was there.
I think its funny to read that if we (minmatar) brought in our bs/ capitals fleet amarr would lost and we would have saved sf's tower. Well tbh here this was what most brave minmatar would have done if other orders wasnt given. High leaders in sf told us (minmatar) to NOT bring it. And honestly you all know that some of us (minmatar) are more then willing to sacrifice our capitals for our dear friends sf.
So we where simply told to get in small ships and so we did with GREAT sucsess, our tactic was simple kill all ships that run away from pos battle and DONT let them come back. Amarr can claim victory ofc +-
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Ms Hilton
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.11.01 09:30:00 -
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I've been curiously following this drama for some time now and couldn't help but wonder how the Minmatars sleep at night. See, here's what I don't get: SF has spent 200,000,000,000 ISK over 12 months is assistance to the Minmatars' cause. Statistically, that's 16.7 billion a month.
In the last engagement alone, total loss of 9 capitals saw your alliance matching a month's average loss in just 3 hours. Hey, I'm not saying it wasn't for a noble cause. But Jade, do you think the Minmatar cares? Do they even understand the value of sacrifice your alliance have made for their freedom?
As a realist, it appears to me that they couldn't care less. In their darkest hours, you've commanded capitals to their assistance. For each crew member who made the ultimate sacrifice, a Minmatar family is free. Gallant were your soldiers to defend righteousness and freedom so that a Minmatar child could have a life without hardship. Nevertheless, I fear that the sacrifices of your men were everything, but in vain. Where were the Minmatars when you needed them? Your men gave them freedom, and despite that, they've shown nothing in return. A fleet of frigates against your enemies was nothing more than an obligation. Like a child forced to finish his carrots, the child toys around until he's asked to leave the table. From what I see, that exactly what happened because your pleas to them, were vegetables they would like to avoid. See what I did there?
Perhaps you've been clouded by the assumption that chivalrous courage would make you Saviour, and your men Free Captains in the eyes of Minmatar. How long would it take for you to come to sense that Minmatars are opportunistic creatures, like parasites sucking blood until your heart beats no more.
Don't you see?
While your men died valiantly to defend Kamela, the same people you've freed, roamed the system like murderous pirates plundering the spoils of war.
It would be no surprise to me that you would find your most prized treasures in the hands of the people you have freed.
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Leopold Caine
Amarr Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2009.11.01 09:53:00 -
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There's a lot of inconsistency in all of Kamela related events, which frankly make the 24th look like a circus, with mr. Tyrell being the clown on a unicycle at the front of the parade.
If I remember correctly, SF were first called a thorn in our sides, but an incompetent, station hugging and blobbing of a force, which was not that important for the success of our militia, main focus being the breach of the front in Heimatar and continued guerilla operations around the Aset area.
Then all of a sudden, we destroy some Star Fraction capitals and it's a great success against a bitter enemy of the Empire... hm. Very well, I could've understood that.. during the discussion about this operation... so appropriately although post-oply named Fortress Kamela Breached, a question was raised about the Star Fraction station anchored at 5-1.
Again the same rhetoric came, that that is not important, and that launching the attack on the POS would only be a waste of precious time and resources. And now this happens.
Leopold pauses, extinguishing a cigarette inside and ashtray and looking back towards the camera drone
Don't get me wrong. I'm proud that we're scoring nice kills and victories in the Bleaks. It's just that you should stop riding your unicycles in circles. ________________________________________ .
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The Yzzerman
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2009.11.01 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Hilton I've been curiously following this drama for some time now and couldn't help but wonder how the Minmatars sleep at night. See, here's what I don't get: SF has spent 200,000,000,000 ISK over 12 months is assistance to the Minmatars' cause. Statistically, that's 16.7 billion a month.
In the last engagement alone, total loss of 9 capitals saw your alliance matching a month's average loss in just 3 hours. Hey, I'm not saying it wasn't for a noble cause. But Jade, do you think the Minmatar cares? Do they even understand the value of sacrifice your alliance have made for their freedom?
As a realist, it appears to me that they couldn't care less. In their darkest hours, you've commanded capitals to their assistance. For each crew member who made the ultimate sacrifice, a Minmatar family is free. Gallant were your soldiers to defend righteousness and freedom so that a Minmatar child could have a life without hardship. Nevertheless, I fear that the sacrifices of your men were everything, but in vain. Where were the Minmatars when you needed them? Your men gave them freedom, and despite that, they've shown nothing in return. A fleet of frigates against your enemies was nothing more than an obligation. Like a child forced to finish his carrots, the child toys around until he's asked to leave the table. From what I see, that exactly what happened because your pleas to them, were vegetables they would like to avoid. See what I did there?
Perhaps you've been clouded by the assumption that chivalrous courage would make you Saviour, and your men Free Captains in the eyes of Minmatar. How long would it take for you to come to sense that Minmatars are opportunistic creatures, like parasites sucking blood until your heart beats no more.
Don't you see?
While your men died valiantly to defend Kamela, the same people you've freed, roamed the system like murderous pirates plundering the spoils of war.
It would be no surprise to me that you would find your most prized treasures in the hands of the people you have freed.
READ UP you simple alt.. We were told to NOT bring our bigger ships in simple as that..
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Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.01 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: The Yzzerman
Well tbh here this was what most brave minmatar would have done if other orders wasnt given. High leaders in sf told us (minmatar) to NOT bring it. And honestly you all know that some of us (minmatar) are more then willing to sacrifice our capitals for our dear friends sf.
Mr. Yzzerman, you mean to imply that the TLF follows orders from the Star Fraction now? Is your fear for the slaver's whip so great that you've exchanged one master for another? Please tell me this isn't so. ____
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.11.01 10:15:00 -
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Lag? Node?
Some of you need to get your capsules check over - you may be getting strange inputs.
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Ehrine Ashbark
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.11.01 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Primus Edited by: Tobias Primus on 01/11/2009 09:07:41 Star Fraction remain unusually quiet in this post.
Perhaps even they can't spin themselves out of such a crushing, over-whelming defeat?
And from 'Fortress Kamela's' ruins glows the True Holy Amarrian Fortress- the one which exists strongly within all who follow its pure path, being inexstinguishable, unbreachable, and guiding to a full undoubtable Victory in fight against any that stands in its way.
Take heed, you Heathen- Our Fortress stands impenetrable against any wordly army, even an infinite one. Your carriers and Battle Stations are nothing in comparison to the Burning Light we hold against you.
Actually, we've been too busy building a replacement tower at the site of the last one you destroyed (to go with the other one elsewhere in system). It's kinda hard to claim "fortress Kamela razed" when in effect nothing much has changed. As for the carriers, we have plenty more where they came from and more rolling out the factories all the time.
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Empress Aurora
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Posted - 2009.11.01 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: The Yzzerman
Originally by: Ms Hilton I've been curiously following this drama for some time now and couldn't help but wonder how the Minmatars sleep at night. See, here's what I don't get: SF has spent 200,000,000,000 ISK over 12 months is assistance to the Minmatars' cause. Statistically, that's 16.7 billion a month.
In the last engagement alone, total loss of 9 capitals saw your alliance matching a month's average loss in just 3 hours. Hey, I'm not saying it wasn't for a noble cause. But Jade, do you think the Minmatar cares? Do they even understand the value of sacrifice your alliance have made for their freedom?
As a realist, it appears to me that they couldn't care less. In their darkest hours, you've commanded capitals to their assistance. For each crew member who made the ultimate sacrifice, a Minmatar family is free. Gallant were your soldiers to defend righteousness and freedom so that a Minmatar child could have a life without hardship. Nevertheless, I fear that the sacrifices of your men were everything, but in vain. Where were the Minmatars when you needed them? Your men gave them freedom, and despite that, they've shown nothing in return. A fleet of frigates against your enemies was nothing more than an obligation. Like a child forced to finish his carrots, the child toys around until he's asked to leave the table. From what I see, that exactly what happened because your pleas to them, were vegetables they would like to avoid. See what I did there?
Perhaps you've been clouded by the assumption that chivalrous courage would make you Saviour, and your men Free Captains in the eyes of Minmatar. How long would it take for you to come to sense that Minmatars are opportunistic creatures, like parasites sucking blood until your heart beats no more.
Don't you see?
While your men died valiantly to defend Kamela, the same people you've freed, roamed the system like murderous pirates plundering the spoils of war.
It would be no surprise to me that you would find your most prized treasures in the hands of the people you have freed.
READ UP you simple alt.. We were told to NOT bring our bigger ships in simple as that..
Were you also told to post here?
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The Yzzerman
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2009.11.01 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth
Originally by: The Yzzerman
Well tbh here this was what most brave minmatar would have done if other orders wasnt given. High leaders in sf told us (minmatar) to NOT bring it. And honestly you all know that some of us (minmatar) are more then willing to sacrifice our capitals for our dear friends sf.
Mr. Yzzerman, you mean to imply that the TLF follows orders from the Star Fraction now? Is your fear for the slaver's whip so great that you've exchanged one master for another? Please tell me this isn't so.
We follow our heart and our heart told us this time to discuss is with sf's seens it there pos.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2009.11.01 11:35:00 -
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GF to all. But unbelievable module lag /if i remember it wasnt so bad when we were fighting in taff/.
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2009.11.01 12:22:00 -
[46]
GF to you all.
Although, the Amarrian fleet did fail in the end. You lost far more ISK and Battleships to frigate class vessels at planets than you destroyed in killing that POS or Militia forces.
I have to LOL when I think of how we picked you off one by one in your big ships with T1 fitted frigs.
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Ziriko Keplit
Strigiformes
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Posted - 2009.11.01 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Amun Khonsu GF to you all.
lots of crap
Posting in every tread about kamela fight will not chage epic fail of minnie militia. You was support for SF and so you was one fleet with them (including rest who fighted for them). So YOU lost 9 bil just in cariers, your capfleet was destroyed + you lost huge quantity of subcapitals (many bil isks) + you failed to protect POS and all that despite fact that you had superiority in numbers and shiptypes. YOU was totaly and completely ZOMGWTFPWNDKKTNXBAIONEONEELEVEN
P.S. I think Amarrs will put to good use loot taken from your failed fleet wrecks.
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Kaito Kenshin
Gallente Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2009.11.01 14:38:00 -
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Rhetoric and chest-beating aside, last night was awesome. I believe that it is a pretty close draw as to which side lost the most isk. But no matter--I think we all had fun.
You aren't doing yourselves any favors, though, by calling our militia cowardly. No ship was able to warp off from the POS fight and repair without dying horribly.
You also aren't doing yourselves any favors by saying that we are Star Fraction slaves because we listened to them when they said warping in a sacrificial battleship fleet was pointless. If you apply that logic, then you are slaves to Garst's mercs as per his earlier comments.
Let's be civil, hmm?
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Ms Hilton
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.11.01 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ms Hilton on 01/11/2009 14:44:48
Originally by: The Yzzerman
And honestly you all know that some of us (minmatar) are more then willing to sacrifice our capitals for our dear friends sf.
Sure we do. And we're holding our breath because we also know that if the situation does not guarantee the preservation of self-interest, Minmatars would fight for no one, including their allies.
While SF pull the heavy weights, Minmatars offer their best tech 1 frigates equipped with salvagers. A sign of true friendship and loyalty indeed. After all, it's the thought that counts right? "Hey Jade, we've sent a bunch of frigates and did our best. That's okay right? Alright cool, we're going to roam and catch what we can get. Would you mind if we kept your loot? What do you mean if we're going to sell it? Of course it's for our capitals and we pinky promise we'll help next time around"
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Bashiri
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.11.01 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Amun Khonsu GF to you all.
Although, the Amarrian fleet did fail in the end. You lost far more ISK and Battleships to frigate class vessels at planets than you destroyed in killing that POS or Militia forces.
I have to LOL when I think of how we picked you off one by one in your big ships with T1 fitted frigs.
So how many bs did you kill cause last i remember for every carrier kileld it equal 10 bs give or take. 9 caps = 90 bs did you get that many? Not like we didn't kill a ton of bs and FACTION BS woot?
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2009.11.01 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ziriko Keplit
Originally by: Amun Khonsu GF to you all.
lots of crap
Posting in every tread about kamela fight will not chage epic fail of minnie militia.
80 dead amarr battleships 25 dead minmatar frigates. The numbers speak for themselves as to the true fail fleet. The Amarr failed miserably to smaller, cheapers minmatar ships.
Hope you guys can afford replacements because we need more of you to kill.
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The Yzzerman
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2009.11.01 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Hilton Edited by: Ms Hilton on 01/11/2009 14:44:48
Originally by: The Yzzerman
And honestly you all know that some of us (minmatar) are more then willing to sacrifice our capitals for our dear friends sf.
Sure we do. And we're holding our breath because we also know that if the situation does not guarantee the preservation of self-interest, Minmatars would fight for no one, including their allies.
While SF pull the heavy weights, Minmatars offer their best tech 1 frigates equipped with salvagers. A sign of true friendship and loyalty indeed. After all, it's the thought that counts right? "Hey Jade, we've sent a bunch of frigates and did our best. That's okay right? Alright cool, we're going to roam and catch what we can get. Would you mind if we kept your loot? What do you mean if we're going to sell it? Of course it's for our capitals and we pinky promise we'll help next time around"
Well why dont you ask sf and see what they think about it, because last time i spoe with them they they said we did absolutley the right thing.
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Ziriko Keplit
Strigiformes
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Posted - 2009.11.01 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Amun Khonsu
Originally by: Ziriko Keplit
Originally by: Amun Khonsu GF to you all.
lots of crap
Posting in every tread about kamela fight will not chage epic fail of minnie militia.
80 dead amarr battleships 25 dead minmatar frigates. The numbers speak for themselves as to the true fail fleet.
Indeed numbers speak. You just fail understand them as you failed yesturday. Ammar did not lost 80 BS. You lost 9 capitalships, ****load of BS, cruiers, and frigs of all types. Try to call some of your friends who knows numbers and ask them to explain those numbers on killboards.
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Zverofaust
Gallente Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2009.11.01 15:19:00 -
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You Amarr are desperately trying to push the idea that your "defeat" of Star Fraction equates to a defeat of the Republic Militia. This is under the laughably erroneous assumption that the Republic fleet was operating with the goal of successfully defending the SF POS.
Our orders were simply to kill as many of you as possible while suffering minimal losses. Do you deny that our objectives were met wholly and completely?
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Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.11.01 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Amun Khonsu
80 dead amarr battleships 25 dead minmatar frigates. The numbers speak for themselves as to the true fail fleet. The Amarr failed miserably to smaller, cheapers minmatar ships.
Hope you guys can afford replacements because we need more of you to kill.
According to your own biased records, it's 18 (read: eighteen) BS you killed, not 80...
Still a nice job, but first claiming goon support whereas there wasn't a goon in the whole constellation and now this - sheesh - some people -
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Rick Wensbane
Gallente Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.11.01 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Rick Wensbane on 01/11/2009 16:14:11
Originally by: Ms Hilton I've been curiously following this drama for some time now and couldn't help but wonder how the Minmatars sleep at night. See, here's what I don't get: SF has spent 200,000,000,000 ISK over 12 months is assistance to the Minmatars' cause. Statistically, that's 16.7 billion a month.
If Star Fraction's resolve and dedication to the abolitionist cause is truly as strong as you say - and I know for a fact that it is - then I am sure they have made those sacrifices gladly and without hesitation. Expecting nothing in return.
With that said, the Tribal Liberation Force fully acknowledges the invaluable help provided by SF during these dark times, and we would've been glad to jump in and engage the Amarr fleet at the POS, but we had different orders. Those orders, contrary to what the Amarr seem to think, came directly from SF. We didn't just bail on our friends here, we had standing orders to act exactly as we did, and we followed them with incredible efficiency.
So, your attempts to turn the Star Fraction against the Minmatar Militia via propaganda are futile. We will remain true to our beliefs and those go beyond any personal feelings towards each other. We have an indestructible common goal, and that is what will continue to drive us forward, no matter what.
I also believe that we have gained another ally yesterday... the Gallente Militia. Our fleets worked so well together that I am sure this is beginning of a very long and very profitable partnership.
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Geonin
Amarr No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.11.01 16:14:00 -
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Ships killed (29.4B ISK) Ships lost (4.45B ISK)
The truth doesn't seem so good for the uncivilized slave dog minmatar nation now does it?
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Shad0wsFury
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.11.01 16:14:00 -
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If you minnies wanna sit there and claim "victory" for yourselves for GANKING people coming to or leaving the field of battle, more power to ya. You did a good job of activating your modules and laughing as you killed rather defenseless ships.
On the other hand, the Amarr militia was engaged in a MASSIVE battle in the same system, destroying Star Fraction and any and all reinforcements they called upon to their defense. If you were "ordered" by someone to not engage the Amarr, I have to say that that was plainly a VERY BAD decision on the part of whoever gave that order.
Had the Minmatars engaged in heavier ships, the battle probably would have gone a completely different way. Most likely an entire 150-ish man fleet would have wiped completely, although we would have taken our share with us.
I don't consider myself a master tactician or even a very good FC, but even I know that it was incredibly foolish to not commit the entirety of your forces to this battle. Either your commanders are too timid or too stupid to realize that, and SF and friends lost upwards of 20+ billion isk because of it.
Perhaps you should look to your leadership to discover what is really going on. It sure doesn't seem that Star Fraction is helping you much these days, just making you look ridiculously bad when they lost multiple capitals on a regular basis.
Not to mention that news of Star Fractions enthusiasm for fielding capitals has reached some ears with VORACIOUS appetites for capital kills. There might be nothing substantial for a 0.0 superpower to gain in murdering Star Fraction, but with no "great war" raging on, bored superpowers might do it just for the kicks.
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Arkady Sadik
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.11.01 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Shad0wsFury for GANKING people coming to or leaving the field of battle
How incredibly rude of them.
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.11.01 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Arkady Sadik
Originally by: Shad0wsFury for GANKING people coming to or leaving the field of battle
How incredibly rude of them.
Well the Minmatar really are horrible people and never play fair.
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