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phaser king
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Posted - 2009.11.01 04:20:00 -
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Edited by: phaser king on 01/11/2009 04:22:15
Frequently people switch the corporations they do missions with. When they do some LP's are stuck with their old missioning corporation. They don't have enough LP's to be worth getting anything and they can't be traded to their new corporation.
To solve this I think you should be able to trade LP's to another corporation at 90% of their original value with the other corporation. If the corporation respects you enough (higher standing) they should give you a higher rate.
I'd scale it at another 1% per point of standing. So someone with 5.0 with the corporation they want to transfer to would get 95% of their LP value when traded to the new corporation. Someone with 8.0 would get 98%.
If i want to trade 30,000 LP's from Amarr Navy to Caldari Navy with 2.8 standing I would get 27,840 Caldari Navy LP's.
Some corporations might pay lower than 90% if their LP store is felt to be worth more.
Summary:
CCP should allow LP's to be traded between NPC corporations depending on your standing with said corporation so that people don't have to abandon their loyalty points when switching the corporations they want to mission for.
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Amie Inteli
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Posted - 2009.11.01 14:47:00 -
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/signed
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Abuta Beki
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Posted - 2009.11.01 16:33:00 -
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So this friend of mine, who has lots of "loyalty points" with me abandons me and decides to spend his time with other people in the future. However, he still wants to retain whatever gratitude I had for him and transfer it to his new friends, so that they like him better. Yeah, sure. Actually, I'm more likely to call them an tell them what an unreliable jackal he is, causing exactly the opposite effect.
Doesn't make sense in real world, doesn't make sense in EVE.
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Bunyip
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.11.01 18:02:00 -
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While this might be nice to have for some people (me included), it neither makes sense in game mechanics nor in RP. At most, they might give you 30-50% for your LPs, but even still...
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.11.01 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 01/11/2009 18:13:04
Dear god no. Different LP stores with different rewards are the few things that directly reward working for some less used corporations and factions. If you use the most popular mission grinding hubs and corps, you get to chain good missions, but can only use those LP on the same rewards all the other lemmings can.
There might be some merit in transferring LP within a faction, but the conversion rate should be heavily fined, since certain corps are just so much better suited for grinding LP than others. Not all corps have good multiple lvl 4 agents in highsec, so using lol 90% transfer rates, would make running missions for them a bad choice.
Not to mention you could have just cashed in your LP at the old corp and converted it all to isk. Iskies don't weight anything or take any space and they can used everywhere, so I don't really see any issue to be solved. |
darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.11.01 18:26:00 -
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 Originally by: Bunyip
While this might be nice to have for some people (me included), it neither makes sense in game mechanics nor in RP. At most, they might give you 30-50% for your LPs, but even still...
Not supported.
nuff said
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2009.11.02 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: phaser king
If i want to trade 30,000 LP's from Amarr Navy to Caldari Navy with 2.8 standing I would get 27,840 Caldari Navy LP's.
I could see some sort of transfer within the faction - but absolutely not for inter-faction exchange.
Even if Caldari likes Amarr, why should they accept their coupons (LP)?
Also, the conversion rate would have to be very complex - rare corps with hardly any agents should be worth more than corps with tons of L4Q20 agents.
If at all, I'd suggest a new sort of Faction-LP, which has to be claimed by converting corp-LP. |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.11.03 10:01:00 -
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The choice of where and for whom you do your missions greatly influences the possible gains - and it should stay that way. If you allowed them to be traded over you would see people massively grinding LP's in safety in empire then running to a 0.0 LP store to cash in on the rarer items they sell there.
In short, it would totally kill lowsec/0.0 missioning.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.11.03 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
The choice of where and for whom you do your missions greatly influences the possible gains - and it should stay that way. If you allowed them to be traded over you would see people massively grinding LP's in safety in empire then running to a 0.0 LP store to cash in on the rarer items they sell there.
In short, it would totally kill lowsec/0.0 missioning.
Not supported.
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Intangible Mirage
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Posted - 2009.11.04 14:09:00 -
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I don't think people should be able to trade LP but I would like LP to be empire faction based and not corp based. So you could run missions for many different corps but the LP would all go into a pool which can be used on any corp in a particular empire.
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2009.11.04 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Intangible Mirage
I don't think people should be able to trade LP but I would like LP to be empire faction based and not corp based. So you could run missions for many different corps but the LP would all go into a pool which can be used on any corp in a particular empire.
That would make the differences in LP stores meaningless. They are almost identical now, if anything, they should be more differentiated. |
Intangible Mirage
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Posted - 2009.11.04 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Originally by: Intangible Mirage
I don't think people should be able to trade LP but I would like LP to be empire faction based and not corp based. So you could run missions for many different corps but the LP would all go into a pool which can be used on any corp in a particular empire.
That would make the differences in LP stores meaningless. They are almost identical now, if anything, they should be more differentiated.
But trading LP isn't meaningless?
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.11.04 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Bunyip
While this might be nice to have for some people (me included), it neither makes sense in game mechanics nor in RP. At most, they might give you 30-50% for your LPs, but even still...
Not supported.
Agree, nice but does not work within the game concept. Do a few more missions with your old corp and buy something.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.11.04 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
The choice of where and for whom you do your missions greatly influences the possible gains - and it should stay that way. If you allowed them to be traded over you would see people massively grinding LP's in safety in empire then running to a 0.0 LP store to cash in on the rarer items they sell there.
In short, it would totally kill lowsec/0.0 missioning.
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This. Not supported.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.11.05 00:40:00 -
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Here's a better idea. Make it so that you can accept LP store offers in bulk, and add a new offer - 100 isk(or something equally low-end) for 1 LP. Anyone who wants to clear out and shrink their list now can. And that way you don't get to convert all your Motsu LP into Navy Domis and Slave implants.
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2009.11.05 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Intangible Mirage
But trading LP isn't meaningless?
Of course it is. Hence no support for either idea from me.
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
add a new offer - 100 isk(or something equally low-end) for 1 LP. Anyone who wants to clear out and shrink their list now can.
Even if 100ISK/LP is low, do you really think this is a good idea? More ways to create ISK out of thin air?
Why not trade them for standings instead? Something that is intangible. |
Scerolikk Teromni
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Posted - 2009.11.05 18:10:00 -
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LP are called "Loyalty Points". You earn them for showing loyalty towards the faction they're from. It would make absolutely no sense to be able to transfer them between corporations, or from character to character. LP is not currency.
Though, perhaps LP can be changed to being given to you directly from the faction the corp belongs to and then you just need a standing above -0.01 to shop at the LP store of any given corp. If not that, then I agree with Herschel that LP should be redeemable for small amounts of ISK... certainly lesser amounts than you would be able to make from saving up the LP and buying the faction modules and selling them through contracts.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.11.05 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
add a new offer - 100 isk(or something equally low-end) for 1 LP. Anyone who wants to clear out and shrink their list now can.
Even if 100ISK/LP is low, do you really think this is a good idea? More ways to create ISK out of thin air?
Why not trade them for standings instead? Something that is intangible.
All isk comes from thin air anyways. This offer will get used so rarely that it won't make any meaningful difference. If you can come up with something else worthwhile to offer for 1 LP, I'd be all for it, but the only things that come to mind are faction ammo, which is too small, and starbase charters, which are too big. Hence you need something to offer that costs exactly 1, and a token amount of isk would seem to fit the bill.
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