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Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2012.06.13 22:18:00 -
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Once upon a time, folks laid small minefields just outside the undock point of starter stations right after downtime, so they could sit back and watch all the new players undock and go *pop*... true story
and on the other end of the spectrum, player corporate big-wigs would undock in their battleships and tank the CONCORD cruisers ( because CONCORD didn't have battlehsips yet ) while they destroyed folks that were thieving ore from their corp members' jet cans...
If CCP doesn't want us to mess with new pilots, just make them invulnerable for the first 30 days and be done with it. I can't tell who's a rookie and who's not. I do not show-info on someone before I engage them. and I have no way of knowing if a character is alt #378 of a vet or a noob's first character. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
Torneach
Viziam Amarr Empire
243
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Posted - 2012.06.13 22:21:00 -
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They were just helping the newbs level up. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1027
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Posted - 2012.06.13 22:27:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:If CCP doesn't want us to mess with new pilots, just make them invulnerable for the first 30 days and be done with it. Not to concord I hope, otherwise the 3 day T1 catalysts alts will descend upon you. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1430
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Posted - 2012.06.13 22:32:00 -
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this account is a 2006 trial account I ragequit when I lost everything to an AOE attack on the jita undock
true story The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
350
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Posted - 2012.06.13 22:33:00 -
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Morganta wrote:this account is a 2006 trial account I ragequit when I lost everything to an AOE attack on the jita undock
true story
maybe you should re-petition CCP for reimbursement from that attack. Their changing view on such matters seems to be in your favor.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
351
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Posted - 2012.06.13 22:33:00 -
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Confirming that I don't care how things were done in the old days. |
Danfen Fenix
Council Of Internal War The Paganism Alliance
95
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Posted - 2012.06.13 22:34:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Ris Dnalor wrote:If CCP doesn't want us to mess with new pilots, just make them invulnerable for the first 30 days and be done with it. Not to concord I hope, otherwise the 3 day T1 catalysts alts will descend upon you.
Also whats to stop a horde of 'rookie' *cough*goons*cough* () players flooding 0.0 & running rampant through every alliance space, safe in the knowledge they can not be killed...
Um, I wonder how many rookie frigates with civ lasers it would take to bring down a POS...
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Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
350
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Posted - 2012.06.13 22:36:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Ris Dnalor wrote:If CCP doesn't want us to mess with new pilots, just make them invulnerable for the first 30 days and be done with it. Not to concord I hope, otherwise the 3 day T1 catalysts alts will descend upon you. Also whats to stop a horde of 'rookie' *cough*goons*cough* ( ) players flooding 0.0 & running rampant through every alliance space, safe in the knowledge they can not be killed... Um, I wonder how many rookie frigates with civ lasers it would take to bring down a POS...
reinforce the node, rookieswarm is coming! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1155
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Posted - 2012.06.13 22:39:00 -
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I got wardecced by DigitalCommunist in my first week in EVE. I realized that he couldn't activate his scrams on his pre-nerf nanoranis, or warp to where my t1 punisher was if he was busy replying to my endless local smack really i learned everything i needed to know about how to survive in EVE in that first week (always local smack) |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
856
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Posted - 2012.06.13 22:53:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:I got wardecced by DigitalCommunist in my first week in EVE. I realized that he couldn't activate his scrams on his pre-nerf nanoranis, or warp to where my t1 punisher was if he was busy replying to my endless local smack really i learned everything i needed to know about how to survive in EVE in that first week (always local smack) impressive name drop is impressive
I will never forget his 1st big rant on the goonies Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1027
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Posted - 2012.06.13 22:59:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:Danfen Fenix wrote:Also whats to stop a horde of 'rookie' *cough*goons*cough* ( ) players flooding 0.0 & running rampant through every alliance space, safe in the knowledge they can not be killed... Um, I wonder how many rookie frigates with civ lasers it would take to bring down a POS... reinforce the node, rookieswarm is coming! I honestly don't know if thousands would even beat the shield regen ... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
351
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Posted - 2012.06.13 23:02:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Ris Dnalor wrote:Danfen Fenix wrote:Also whats to stop a horde of 'rookie' *cough*goons*cough* ( ) players flooding 0.0 & running rampant through every alliance space, safe in the knowledge they can not be killed... Um, I wonder how many rookie frigates with civ lasers it would take to bring down a POS... reinforce the node, rookieswarm is coming! I honestly don't know if thousands would even beat the shield regen ...
Shame they nerfed the self-destruct aoe damage, instead of boosting it to a useful level
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EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
424
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Posted - 2012.06.13 23:07:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:I got wardecced by DigitalCommunist in my first week in EVE. I realized that he couldn't activate his scrams on his pre-nerf nanoranis, or warp to where my t1 punisher was if he was busy replying to my endless local smack really i learned everything i needed to know about how to survive in EVE in that first week (always local smack)
What happened to smack talk, used to be everywhere in game, maybe I've been in hi to long lol. Most of the time I see smack in local now its russian and I have to guess what they are saying about my mum
Tal
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Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.06.13 23:10:00 -
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I have to agree with the OP. The idea that the only people in a specific system are "new" players is a little shortsighted.
My 2 week old alt account isn't a "new" player.
If they want to protect new players then new accounts should have a timer on them that makes them ineligible for PvP. If they attempt to enter a system that is below a sec threshold they should get a warning that it will remove their new player timer before jumping. If they attempt to engage another player they should get a warning that it will remove their new player timer.
A disposable alt on this account doesn't constitute a new player, and shouldn't benefit from immunity to other players. Nor should I be able to fly into a system and be immune because they decided to go the easy route and declare a system pvp free to help new players.
Help new players by coding in rules CCP, not by stating them. |
Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.06.14 05:48:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:I have to agree with the OP. The idea that the only people in a specific system are "new" players is a little shortsighted.
My 2 week old alt account isn't a "new" player.
If they want to protect new players then new accounts should have a timer on them that makes them ineligible for PvP. If they attempt to enter a system that is below a sec threshold they should get a warning that it will remove their new player timer before jumping. If they attempt to engage another player they should get a warning that it will remove their new player timer.
A disposable alt on this account doesn't constitute a new player, and shouldn't benefit from immunity to other players. Nor should I be able to fly into a system and be immune because they decided to go the easy route and declare a system pvp free to help new players.
Help new players by coding in rules CCP, not by stating them.
Almost any kind of rule like this would be instantly abused by the older players in EVE. I can think of many ways to abuse a rule like this. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
295
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Posted - 2012.06.14 07:55:00 -
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Confirming I would abuse the **** out of that. |
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
668
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:58:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:Once upon a time, folks laid small minefields just outside the undock point of starter stations right after downtime, so they could sit back and watch all the new players undock and go *pop*... true story
Shortly after that mines where made useless.
Ris Dnalor wrote:and on the other end of the spectrum, player corporate big-wigs would undock in their battleships and tank the CONCORD cruisers ( because CONCORD didn't have battlehsips yet ) while they destroyed folks that were thieving ore from their corp members' jet cans...
Indeed, until M00 decides to gank the system and lay waste to everything passes in one system and spidertank the concord ships killing everything in sight. So concord was buffed (extreme) (the original burn jita (but not in jita))
Ris Dnalor wrote:If CCP doesn't want us to mess with new pilots, just make them invulnerable for the first 30 days and be done with it. I can't tell who's a rookie and who's not. I do not show-info on someone before I engage them. and I have no way of knowing if a character is alt #378 of a vet or a noob's first character.
The bigger the society the more rules it needs, in many ways EVE emulates everything that UO faces when there where PK's everywhere ganking from the moment you stepped two meters from the "safe" cities. Up to the baitcontainer with "free loot" to kill noobs.
There was more freedom in the old days, but it got taken away because most of us are not able to manage it in a way that it makes playing eve fun for new guys or frankly enjoyable gameplay for most. I find that at the moment they have struck an interesting balance in the ganking (taking away insurance, plugging holes when exploits that gankers use are found but leaving the basic system intact.). - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Aemonchichi
Limited Access Guardian Society
19
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Posted - 2012.06.14 09:14:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote: If CCP doesn't want us to mess with new pilots, just make them invulnerable for the first 30 days and be done with it. I can't tell who's a rookie and who's not.
its a pity you need other people to do your decisions for you |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1293
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Posted - 2012.06.14 09:46:00 -
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They are nerfing the beejezus of everything because people went from having a sense of measure to the modern and self entitled:
"If I CAN do it then I WILL do it".
Where "it" is any lowest possible human activity.
Therefore dog muzzles were introduced. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
742
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Posted - 2012.06.14 11:02:00 -
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Make new ACCOUNTS untargetable for the first 14 days of its existance in HISEC. that way new guys have time to do their story arcs, get used to flying and so on in hisec. This would only stop players targetting them obviously. That way, no strange rules, no areas where they can or cant be shot, you simply cant shot a new account in hisec for 14 days.
Go to lowsec, nullsec or wormholes and normal rules apply. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
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Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
233
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Posted - 2012.06.14 11:04:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:Make new ACCOUNTS untargetable for the first 14 days of its existance in HISEC. that way new guys have time to do their story arcs, get used to flying and so on in hisec. This would only stop players targetting them obviously. That way, no strange rules, no areas where they can or cant be shot, you simply cant shot a new account in hisec for 14 days.
Go to lowsec, nullsec or wormholes and normal rules apply.
But what if the newbie is the aggressor? Not fun going up against an indestructible Cruiser/Destroyer! Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
371
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Posted - 2012.06.14 11:06:00 -
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OP, get over it . It is real easy to avoid a newbie.
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Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
742
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Posted - 2012.06.14 11:16:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:Rico Minali wrote:Make new ACCOUNTS untargetable for the first 14 days of its existance in HISEC. that way new guys have time to do their story arcs, get used to flying and so on in hisec. This would only stop players targetting them obviously. That way, no strange rules, no areas where they can or cant be shot, you simply cant shot a new account in hisec for 14 days.
Go to lowsec, nullsec or wormholes and normal rules apply. But what if the newbie is the aggressor? Not fun going up against an indestructible Cruiser/Destroyer!
Make it so until account is over 14 days that they also cant target players.
Actually youd have to make it so 14 day old and under accounts cant do damage to players and vice versa, people need to be able to scan them as ccp would have to make it an exploit to ship high value cargo with new accounts, otherwise people will create an account and ship plex and so on to jita in perfect safety, that would have to be a petiionable exploit resulting in a perma ban.
So basically players of under 14 days can not do damage to other players and vice versa can not receive damage from players. This eliminates smartbombs too, but allows cargo scanning etc to pick up on people exploiting that invulnerabilty. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
baltec1
1437
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Posted - 2012.06.14 11:19:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Rico Minali wrote:Make new ACCOUNTS untargetable for the first 14 days of its existance in HISEC. that way new guys have time to do their story arcs, get used to flying and so on in hisec. This would only stop players targetting them obviously. That way, no strange rules, no areas where they can or cant be shot, you simply cant shot a new account in hisec for 14 days.
Go to lowsec, nullsec or wormholes and normal rules apply. But what if the newbie is the aggressor? Not fun going up against an indestructible Cruiser/Destroyer! Make it so until account is over 14 days that they also cant target players. Actually youd have to make it so 14 day old and under accounts cant do damage to players and vice versa, people need to be able to scan them as ccp would have to make it an exploit to ship high value cargo with new accounts, otherwise people will create an account and ship plex and so on to jita in perfect safety, that would have to be a petiionable exploit resulting in a perma ban. So basically players of under 14 days can not do damage to other players and vice versa can not receive damage from players. This eliminates smartbombs too, but allows cargo scanning etc to pick up on people exploiting that invulnerabilty.
Then you are spoiling a nubs fun as they cant pvp for 14 days making them useless to corps/alliances. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
314
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Posted - 2012.06.14 11:35:00 -
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I wish CONCORD were still tankable, there is no reason for them not to be so. If you commit a crime deserving of a concord response then this should mean certain death but with enough tank/logi you should be able to tank them. The longer you tank the more concord ships arrive until the dps is untankable.
Also, if you commit a crime in CONCORD controlled space, you shouldn't be able to grind your standing up, instead you should have to hand yourself in and receive a skill point hit. |
Atheos Aristoi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:15:00 -
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At what point did the player base become Xenophobic? |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
899
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:10:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:If CCP doesn't want us to mess with new pilots, just make them invulnerable for the first 30 days and be done with it. I can't tell who's a rookie and who's not. I do not show-info on someone before I engage them. and I have no way of knowing if a character is alt #378 of a vet or a noob's first character. Inb4 massive alt blobs for new fleet tactics.
"Eve isnGÇÖt some welcoming online utopia: itGÇÖs cut-throat, cruel, atavistic despite the futuristic setting. Give people a sandbox, and theyGÇÖll throw the sand in a rivalGÇÖs eyes before kicking them in the shins and destroying their sandcastle." -Keza MacDonald, IGN. |
Atrocitus Parallax
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:54:00 -
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A bitter vet, a vet, and a newb walk into a bar, which ones leaves because the bar changed welcome matte from a brown one to a light brown one? |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:01:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:I got wardecced by DigitalCommunist in my first week in EVE. I realized that he couldn't activate his scrams on his pre-nerf nanoranis, or warp to where my t1 punisher was if he was busy replying to my endless local smack really i learned everything i needed to know about how to survive in EVE in that first week (always local smack) What happened to smack talk, used to be everywhere in game, maybe I've been in hi to long lol. Most of the time I see smack in local now its russian and I have to guess what they are saying about my mum Tal you're mom is so fat, when she goes out in heels she comes back in flipflops. How's that
Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Austneal
Four Pillar Production Dragehund
25
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:15:00 -
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What happened to Eve being a harsh, cutthroat universe? Hell, my first few days consisted of dying and getting podded in a highsec war, because I didnt know wtf was going on :P
This isnt WoW... if the newbies want protection, go make some friends. But that's just my opinion |
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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:16:00 -
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Atheos Aristoi wrote:At what point did the player base become Xenophobic?
About 9 years ago.
See NBSI |
Trappist Monk
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.06.14 15:20:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:If CCP doesn't want us to mess with new pilots, just make them invulnerable for the first 30 days and be done with it. I can't tell who's a rookie and who's not. I do not show-info on someone before I engage them. and I have no way of knowing if a character is alt #378 of a vet or a noob's first character. +1 |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
354
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:28:00 -
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Aemonchichi wrote:Ris Dnalor wrote: If CCP doesn't want us to mess with new pilots, just make them invulnerable for the first 30 days and be done with it. I can't tell who's a rookie and who's not.
its a pity you need other people to do your decisions for you
does your pity come with isk?
I like isk
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Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
354
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:30:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:OP, get over it . It is real easy to avoid a newbie.
I propose that you are incorrect!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
661
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:43:00 -
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Austneal wrote:What happened to Eve being a harsh, cutthroat universe? Hell, my first few days consisted of dying and getting podded in a highsec war, because I didnt know wtf was going on :P
This isnt WoW... if the newbies want protection, go make some friends. But that's just my opinion No we have to bubble wrap the newbies so that they think they are entitled to be left alone so that they grow up to become the next generation of highsec carebears who think they are entitled to be able to run missions 23/7 without ever having to interact with another person.
I'm all for making the game suck less for new players, but threatening everyone who plays the game with a ban if they do anything at all to a new player is completely contrary to the spirit of the game.
Hell, there is a trailer that starts with a newbie getting ganked and how he proceeded from there to get revenge. The policy of forcing people to avoid new players is literally the opposite of how the game is advertised and just sets up new players for a bigger fall later. |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
354
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:46:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Austneal wrote:What happened to Eve being a harsh, cutthroat universe? Hell, my first few days consisted of dying and getting podded in a highsec war, because I didnt know wtf was going on :P
This isnt WoW... if the newbies want protection, go make some friends. But that's just my opinion No we have to bubble wrap the newbies so that they think they are entitled to be left alone so that they grow up to become the next generation of highsec carebears who think they are entitled to be able to run missions 23/7 without ever having to interact with another person. I'm all for making the game suck less for new players, but threatening everyone who plays the game with a ban if they do anything at all to a new player is completely contrary to the spirit of the game. Hell, there is a trailer that starts with a newbie getting ganked and how he proceeded from there to get revenge. The policy of forcing people to avoid new players is literally the opposite of how the game is advertised and just sets up new players for a bigger fall later.
well said. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
746
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Posted - 2012.06.15 07:31:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Rico Minali wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Rico Minali wrote:Make new ACCOUNTS untargetable for the first 14 days of its existance in HISEC. that way new guys have time to do their story arcs, get used to flying and so on in hisec. This would only stop players targetting them obviously. That way, no strange rules, no areas where they can or cant be shot, you simply cant shot a new account in hisec for 14 days.
Go to lowsec, nullsec or wormholes and normal rules apply. But what if the newbie is the aggressor? Not fun going up against an indestructible Cruiser/Destroyer! Make it so until account is over 14 days that they also cant target players. Actually youd have to make it so 14 day old and under accounts cant do damage to players and vice versa, people need to be able to scan them as ccp would have to make it an exploit to ship high value cargo with new accounts, otherwise people will create an account and ship plex and so on to jita in perfect safety, that would have to be a petiionable exploit resulting in a perma ban. So basically players of under 14 days can not do damage to other players and vice versa can not receive damage from players. This eliminates smartbombs too, but allows cargo scanning etc to pick up on people exploiting that invulnerabilty. Then you are spoiling a nubs fun as they cant pvp for 14 days making them useless to corps/alliances. Part of the glory that is EVE is that 30 minutes into the game you can be out in 0.0 tackiling a carrier for a fleet to kill.
You missed the important part where I said in HISEC... In lowsec, nullsec and WHs none of this would apply. It allows new ACCOUNTS (not just a new character) to stay in hisec safely for 14 days before being thrown into the fire IF they choose to. Possibly have teh ability to opt out of the safety at any point too, non returnable... Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry Devil Divided By Zero
38
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Posted - 2012.06.15 08:48:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:I can't tell who's a rookie and who's not. I do not show-info on someone before I engage them. and I have no way of knowing if a character is alt #378 of a vet or a noob's first character.
This sounds something like: "But, judge... I didn't know how old she was. You don't expect me to ask for an ID of every girl I meet, do you?"
Moral of the story: If you are not sure, approach only Battleships and 40+ year old "cougars". You know that they are experienced and even though they may look dangerous,if you engage them successfully you could be rewarded beyond your wildest dreams. Alternatively, you can try to stay out of places like noob systems. CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
356
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Posted - 2012.06.16 02:43:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Ris Dnalor wrote:I can't tell who's a rookie and who's not. I do not show-info on someone before I engage them. and I have no way of knowing if a character is alt #378 of a vet or a noob's first character. This sounds something like: "But, judge... I didn't know how old she was. You don't expect me to ask for an ID of every girl I meet, do you?" Moral of the story: If you are not sure, approach only Battleships and 40+ year old "cougars". You know that they are experienced and even though they may look dangerous,if you engage them successfully you could be rewarded beyond your wildest dreams. Alternatively, you can try to stay out of places like noob systems.
except that it's not like that at all.
Vets have multiple characters on multiple accounts, CCP has said the GM's can easily tell who is new, but we cannot.
It's like asking someone to obey the speed limit, then not post any speed limit signs.
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EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
121
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Posted - 2012.06.16 03:27:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:Confirming that I don't care how things were done in the old days.
Confirming your status as a "I want everything now cry baby"
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