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nubos
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Posted - 2010.01.17 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: nubos on 17/01/2010 02:13:29 After patch it will be, kronos is going to suck donkey balls :D
Same bonuses, except tanking and it's not an important issue, but much more dps
Hail to new nightmare competitor
Edit: page 8 snypa
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Lylu
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Posted - 2010.01.17 14:31:00 -
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Kronos is good cause of its good dmg, nice tank and it can salvage while doing missions. CNR outdamages Golem too, but most of the people use a Golem ;).
Did some Calc for new Vindi:
DPS 1446 with drones and dmg imps, tank 1255 with t2 rigs and deadspace tank, sounds better then before . and maybe we,ll see the Vindi in small gang pvp now.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.01.17 23:38:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 17/01/2010 23:39:45
Originally by: Lylu did some calculation also, max skills, slaves/t2 rigs + 2x dmg imps + drones at the setups.
Passive Tanking:
Megathron Navy Issue: 1349 dps, 345.000 EHP, 2 MFS Vindicator: 1305 dps, 333.000 EHP, 1 MFS Armageddon Navy Issue: 1206 dps, 337.000 EHP, 2 HS Abaddon: 1163 dps, 330.000 EHP, 2 HS Kronos: 1108 dps, 276.000 EHP, 1 MFS
Meh, if that's the way you intend to go, tank over gank, then sure, pick the Navy Mega. Vindi has more dmg potential, so unless you're going to use that, don't fly it. Simple.
Same parameters as you had, Vindi with new 37,5% bonus (That's what it's getting, right?) No gang bonuses, no overload.
Vindi: 1680 dps, 180k EHP, 3 mfs Megathron Navy Issue Lylu: 1349 dps, 345.000 EHP, 2 MFS NMega Gank w/ CN Siege: 1475 dps, 214-230k EHP, 3 MFS
'Course, my alt who would be flying this, doesn't have missile skills, so it's 1400dps with 3 mfs, 1270 with 2 mfs for her.
Also, can I see this Navy Mega fit you used?
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Lylu
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Posted - 2010.01.18 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: Lylu on 18/01/2010 00:16:10 rigs: 3x t2 trimark
lows: 2x shadow serpentis MFS 2x 1600mm RT 1x DMG Control 2x Corpum A-Type EANM 1x Corpus X-Type Explo Hardener
Meds: 1x Domi Web/Disruptor 1x True Sansha Heavy Cap Booster 1x 100MN Digital Booster Rockets (MWD)
Highs: 7x Neutron Blaster 1x CN Siege
Drones: 5x Ogre
Implants: Slot 1-6: High Grade Slave Slot 7: Squire GU8 Slot 8: Zor Hyper Link Slot 9: Lancer G2 Slot 10: Deadeye ZGL 1000
have fun
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.01.18 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 18/01/2010 09:28:21 Ahh, I see. Thanks.
Okay, well, with that kind of isk investment, which is more then I would use, and rof imp instead of dmg imp, let me adjust the Vindi numbers, still with the upcoming 37,5% dmg bonus.
Vindicator: 1684 dps, 226k EHP, 3 mfs.
Last I checked, which admittedly was maybe 6 months ago so thing could have changed, that cosmos mwd was about 700mil.
But I'll grant you and Blaster-proponent Bellum that this is a theoretical number not easily achieved in game. And yes, as long as a BS target is both webbed and dual painted and you don't have to reload, a CNR can do more dps, although it cannot web, paint and scram while still having a decent tank.
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Lylu
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Posted - 2010.01.18 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Lylu on 18/01/2010 12:09:35 well, if u want a shield setup u can also go with a vindi, just no option to use scram...
1779 dps with 1803 dps tank (with hg crystals)
lows: 1x DMC 1x CN Co-Processor 4x FN MFS 1x Magnetometric Backup Array
meds: 1x Cormack MWD 1x True Sansha Heavy Cap Booster 2x Cn Invul 1x X-Large Pith X-Type
highs: 8x Neutron Blaster II
rigs: 1x anti em 2x Core defence Operational Solidifier
not sure if ccp wanted to be the ship to be flown that way, but if u have a small gang definately an option
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.01.18 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lylu well, if u want a shield setup u can also go with a vindi, just no option to use scram...
1779 dps with 1803 dps tank (with hg crystals)
lows: 1x DMC 1x CN Co-Processor 4x FN MFS 1x Magnetometric Backup Array
meds: 1x Cormack MWD 1x True Sansha Heavy Cap Booster 2x Cn Invul
highs: 8x Neutron Blaster II
rigs: 1x anti em 2x Core defence Operational Solidifier
not sure if ccp wanted to be the ship to be flown that way, but if u have a small gang definately an option
you dont have a shield booster but fit for repping? just lost in pasting?
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Lylu
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Posted - 2010.01.18 15:20:00 -
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there should be an pith x type booster ;)
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.01.18 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lylu there should be an pith x type booster ;)
the power of the edit function!:p
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2010.01.20 18:03:00 -
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Vind Weapons were boosted to 37.5%. Guess CCP does actually listen to us! *Shocking*
:P --Isaac
Signature is now under construction: check back in a couple weeks. Or months....
AMAAR VICTOR!
"You just can't fix stupid"
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minestar
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Posted - 2010.01.20 22:21:00 -
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Just curious to know what rigs would be better to fit on the vindicator and Navy mega??
Cheer
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.01.20 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: minestar Just curious to know what rigs would be better to fit on the vindicator and Navy mega??
Cheer
depends on your general fit.
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Bubbled
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Posted - 2010.01.21 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Vind Weapons were boosted to 37.5%. Guess CCP does actually listen to us! *Shocking*
:P
Right. From patch notes: "The bonus to large hybrid damage on the Vindicator has been increased from 25% to 37.5%" Enjoy
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Ivanna Nuke
Gallente Daralux
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Posted - 2010.01.21 15:12:00 -
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+10 respect and +100 internets to CCP!.
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Velka Obchodnice
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Posted - 2010.01.25 15:23:00 -
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But still, armor rep bonus should be better...
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.25 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Velka Obchodnice But still, armor rep bonus should be better...
Get out of here. The Vindicator is all about DPS.
You know we have the Kronos / Hyperion for armor rep bonuses, so STFU about the thing about armor rep bonus on the Vindicator.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.26 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Velka Obchodnice But still, armor rep bonus should be better...
Get out of here. The Vindicator is all about DPS.
You know we have the Kronos / Hyperion for armor rep bonuses, so STFU about the thing about armor rep bonus on the Vindicator.
word
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Lylu
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Posted - 2010.02.01 00:40:00 -
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yep, vindi fullfills it,s role now :), hope we see some in pvp :),
just the active tanking is maybe not the best ^^
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.01 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: Lylu yep, vindi fullfills it,s role now :), hope we see some in pvp :),
just the active tanking is maybe not the best ^^
The damage increase wasn't enough. It's only marginally better than a Navy Mega at this point once you take into consideration the same effective tanks (EHP). A single damage implant can make up for the difference in total peak DPS. -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Tier 5 Battleships
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.02.01 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Lylu yep, vindi fullfills it,s role now :), hope we see some in pvp :),
just the active tanking is maybe not the best ^^
The damage increase wasn't enough. It's only marginally better than a Navy Mega at this point once you take into consideration the same effective tanks (EHP). A single damage implant can make up for the difference in total peak DPS.
Maybe if they fixed blasters like say, boosting ALL blaster damage it might help. I'm not sure. Personally I'm just waiting for some new threads to start up where people are complaining that they need the other pirate bs' boosted because the Vindicator was thrown a bone. Thus, making the Vindicator crap compared to them once again.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.03 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Lylu yep, vindi fullfills it,s role now :), hope we see some in pvp :),
just the active tanking is maybe not the best ^^
The damage increase wasn't enough. It's only marginally better than a Navy Mega at this point once you take into consideration the same effective tanks (EHP). A single damage implant can make up for the difference in total peak DPS.
Maybe if they fixed blasters like say, boosting ALL blaster damage it might help. I'm not sure. Personally I'm just waiting for some new threads to start up where people are complaining that they need the other pirate bs' boosted because the Vindicator was thrown a bone. Thus, making the Vindicator crap compared to them once again.
I'd have to agree. If blasters were fixed, the Vindi's damage increase might have more of an effect. -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Tier 5 Battleships
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Lylu
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Posted - 2010.02.03 13:51:00 -
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well, the dps is nice if u fit a small buffer tank or an shield tank.
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