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Anile8er
Solstice Systems Development Concourse Distant Drums
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:01:00 -
[1051]
I think this last post from CCP about the ability to dock and 15 fighters/bombers is a good fit for the ship. Aswell the reimbursment for value.
well done CCP for taking player thoughts into consideration. A 7th high slot may serve the ship well too considering there lower drone count will lessen there effectivness against smaller ships. A 7th high slot gives the player another neut or smartbomb.
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Ivanna Nuke
Gallente Daralux
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:02:00 -
[1052]
Edited by: Ivanna Nuke on 13/11/2009 21:02:53 Edited by: Ivanna Nuke on 13/11/2009 21:02:29 Oh dear, just put it back as it was before.
edit: Don't type while holding a drink... not good.
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Pattern Clarc
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:03:00 -
[1053]
Originally by: Pallidum Treponema
Originally by: Karlemgne disclaimer--don't own a mothership, don't care. Think the changes are just fine.
I think the ability to dock motherships is actually a good idea. It always struck me as a broken mechanic that people had to pay for extra accounts whose sole job it was to sit parked in a mom at a post 360 days a year.
-Karlemgne
Auntie Palli's Guide To Defending Sov (with no risk whatsoever).
1. Baddies hit your outpost. Outpost goes into reinforced. 2. Reinforcement timer expires. You undock 50+ motherships and repair the outpost. 3. Hostiles outside start shooting your mothership. An Aeon gets primaried. 4. The spidertank is not enough, and once it hits 10M HP left out of its 30M, it docks. 5. The aeon repairs in station (for free, it's your station after all) and undocks. 6. Rinse repeat.
This tactic would probably work with carriers.
Starbases should be decoupled from sov entirely tbhf. ____ Domination Balance (Or how we fix the Tempest) |
glassmanipulator
Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:04:00 -
[1054]
Originally by: Mendolorian Girl Edited by: Mendolorian Girl on 12/11/2009 16:17:39
Originally by: The Mittani Abathur and Hammerhead had this all sewn up nicely at Fanfest. The capital ships panel was broadly hailed as a success and the players were excited about the upcoming changes.
Now you've created chaos where previously there was a surprisingly high degree of order and unanimity, for EVE at least. With your clumsy PR move there, you also just wiped out the wealth of everyone planning and investing in MS builds, or who was planning on selling one pre-patch.
Don't like the changes? Sell your MS! Oh wait, Nozh told everyone they'll be cut in value by 40%, even though that's not been finalized. Good luck selling one now!
I don't know who you are or why you're messing with what was one of the few uncontroversially good aspects of Dominion. But you should back off these changes ASAP. You should also gain a basic understanding of economics/public relations, given how much chaos your lil post there just created.
I don't even fly a supercap, and GS isn't exactly a supercap heavy alliance, but your pro-move stealth nerf and followup nightmare post is infuriating in and of itself. In fact, I'm so annoyed, I'm dropping my posting gimmick to point out how monumentally poorly judged this is.
I hate that I'm about to say this, but I couldn't agree with The Mittani more. A well thought out and intelligent post.
You'll have to excuse me, I now have to go shower in bleach.
//edit - crap, he did it again.. another sensible answer :(
For once I'd have to agree as well.......
He pretty much hits the nail on the head.
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Glassback
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:05:00 -
[1055]
Originally by: CCP Nozh crappy stuff
WHO ARE YOU?
Originally by: CCP Navigator Please also note that Community do not make game design decisions and nor will we comment on them.
Quoting for the eternal embarrassment of CCP and the spirit of EVE. |
Rosalyn Heart
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:09:00 -
[1056]
Originally by: CynoNet Two http://cgi.ebay.com/Eve-online-manual-with-free-Erebus-Titan-Pilot_W0QQitemZ180431549468QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a028ef41c
Hey Nozh you should grab this and learn to play supercaps
Don't forget the collector's edition guide.
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Serena Ku
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:11:00 -
[1057]
Originally by: Pallidum Treponema
Auntie Palli's Guide To Defending Sov (with no risk whatsoever).
1. Baddies hit your outpost. Outpost goes into reinforced. 2. Reinforcement timer expires. You undock 50+ motherships and repair the outpost. 3. Hostiles outside start shooting your mothership. An Aeon gets primaried. 4. The spidertank is not enough, and once it hits 10M HP left out of its 30M, it docks. 5. The aeon repairs in station (for free, it's your station after all) and undocks. 6. Rinse repeat.
Best post for today
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Bagdon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:11:00 -
[1058]
Originally by: CCP Nozh Hey,
We've made some further changes to super carriers after taking your feedback into consideration. It's quite understandable that the changes made were a disappointment to many of you, but I wanted to remind you that Singularity is a test server and all changes, even these are subject to change.
Compact Citadel Torpedo Changes:
- Explosion Velocity: 60
- Damage: 3200
Super Carrier Changes:
- Can deploy 2 additional Fighter or Drone per level
- Can dock at stations
Furthermore we're looking into solutions to reimburse current mothership pilots for the drop in construction cost.
That's all for now.
-Nozh
You guys should really have your accounts disabled when you're out drinking.
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Agmar
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:15:00 -
[1059]
Originally by: Jack Gates
Originally by: Agmar
Originally by: Jack Gates do people still think this gag is funny
No... which is why it is.
I don't think it's really reached that "ironic funny" point yet
what was the number... like 26.3 years for how long it took AIDS to be funny.
Glassback, CCP Community members are not in charge of game designs. Navigator is a member of the CCP Community crew and he just locks my posts and bans me. Same with CCP StevieSG and Mitanl. They don't do "in game" stuff, they just ruin my life on the forums.
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:19:00 -
[1060]
Originally by: Dramaticus
Originally by: Karlemgne disclaimer--don't own a mothership, don't care. Think the changes are just fine.
I think the ability to dock motherships is actually a good idea. It always struck me as a broken mechanic that people had to pay for extra accounts whose sole job it was to sit parked in a mom at a post 360 days a year.
-Karlemgne
no one cares what some low brow scrub thinks
Good, because nobody buy goons really gives two craps about what metawhiners think. So I guess we're in a very similar position visa vis our relationship to this thread.
My sig don't fracking work. |
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Ivanna Nuke
Gallente Daralux
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:19:00 -
[1061]
Edited by: Ivanna Nuke on 13/11/2009 21:19:28
Originally by: Bagdon
Originally by: CCP Nozh Hey,
We've made some further changes to super carriers after taking your feedback into consideration. It's quite understandable that the changes made were a disappointment to many of you, but I wanted to remind you that Singularity is a test server and all changes, even these are subject to change.
Compact Citadel Torpedo Changes:
- Explosion Velocity: 60
- Damage: 3200
Super Carrier Changes:
- Can deploy 2 additional Fighter or Drone per level
- Can dock at stations
Furthermore we're looking into solutions to reimburse current mothership pilots for the drop in construction cost.
That's all for now.
-Nozh
You guys should really have your accounts disabled when you're out drinking.
LOL, +5 internets good sir.
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Ap0ll0n
Gallente Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:19:00 -
[1062]
Originally by: Pallidum Treponema
Originally by: Karlemgne disclaimer--don't own a mothership, don't care. Think the changes are just fine.
I think the ability to dock motherships is actually a good idea. It always struck me as a broken mechanic that people had to pay for extra accounts whose sole job it was to sit parked in a mom at a post 360 days a year.
-Karlemgne
Auntie Palli's Guide To Defending Sov (with no risk whatsoever).
1. Baddies hit your outpost. Outpost goes into reinforced. 2. Reinforcement timer expires. You undock 50+ motherships and repair the outpost. 3. Hostiles outside start shooting your mothership. An Aeon gets primaried. 4. The spidertank is not enough, and once it hits 10M HP left out of its 30M, it docks. 5. The aeon repairs in station (for free, it's your station after all) and undocks. 6. Rinse repeat.
And this is ofcourse not possible with standard carriers..
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Pallidum Treponema
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:23:00 -
[1063]
Originally by: Pattern Clarc
Originally by: Pallidum Treponema
Auntie Palli's Guide To Defending Sov (with no risk whatsoever).
1. Baddies hit your outpost. Outpost goes into reinforced. 2. Reinforcement timer expires. You undock 50+ motherships and repair the outpost. 3. Hostiles outside start shooting your mothership. An Aeon gets primaried. 4. The spidertank is not enough, and once it hits 10M HP left out of its 30M, it docks. 5. The aeon repairs in station (for free, it's your station after all) and undocks. 6. Rinse repeat.
This tactic would probably work with carriers.
Nope. Carriers can be melted before they can redock or they have a chance to get into the spidertank web. Supercarriers will have 20-25 times the HP of a carrier, and will therefore be able to survive. Also, carriers can be jammed and dampened to break their spidertanks. Supercarriers cannot.
Originally by: Pattern Clarc Starbases should be decoupled from sov entirely tbhf.
They will be. Outposts will now be protecting sov instead. With a dual reinforcement timer, so you'll get two chances to defend according to the above.
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Rosalyn Heart
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:24:00 -
[1064]
Edited by: Rosalyn Heart on 13/11/2009 21:25:17
Originally by: Ap0ll0n
Originally by: Pallidum Treponema
Originally by: Karlemgne disclaimer--don't own a mothership, don't care. Think the changes are just fine.
I think the ability to dock motherships is actually a good idea. It always struck me as a broken mechanic that people had to pay for extra accounts whose sole job it was to sit parked in a mom at a post 360 days a year.
-Karlemgne
Auntie Palli's Guide To Defending Sov (with no risk whatsoever).
1. Baddies hit your outpost. Outpost goes into reinforced. 2. Reinforcement timer expires. You undock 50+ motherships and repair the outpost. 3. Hostiles outside start shooting your mothership. An Aeon gets primaried. 4. The spidertank is not enough, and once it hits 10M HP left out of its 30M, it docks. 5. The aeon repairs in station (for free, it's your station after all) and undocks. 6. Rinse repeat.
And this is ofcourse [sic] not possible with standard carriers..
It has been demonstrated on more than one occasion that it is possible to alpha a regular carrier with just BSes and dreadnoughts on the field.
EDIT - Beaten...by -A- no less. :argh:
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Dirk Culliford
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:25:00 -
[1065]
Ok...so to summarise:
Sov wars now pointless because of having to destroy anything of value - Check Sov wars now impossible to win because of MS blob sitting on the station - Check
I say we all just blue each other and run anomalies together
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Fuujin
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:29:00 -
[1066]
Originally by: Vladameir .
Logistics Carrier - Current Carrier
Strike Carrier - Fighterbomber 2-4bil what nozh has in mind.. no logistics
Super Carrier - Abathur's changes to the MOMS.. KEEP THE OLD ONES
WIN!!!
Oddly, I can get behind this. Carrier 1, Carrier 3, Carrier 5
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Ivanna Nuke
Gallente Daralux
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:30:00 -
[1067]
I want CCP's own reason without any public relations ****e thrown in, as to why they moved away from a plan of which the community was happy with.
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Letifer Deus
Total Mayhem. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:32:00 -
[1068]
How long is it going to take Nozh to write his "big picture" blog? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |
Pallidum Treponema
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:32:00 -
[1069]
Originally by: Rosalyn Heart
EDIT - Beaten...by -A- no less. :argh:
Sorry sweetie. :(
I didn't mean to do that. We're all allied in this now after all. Many loves to our goon brosefs. :) --
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Manfred Sideous
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:38:00 -
[1070]
Originally by: Pallidum Treponema
Originally by: Rosalyn Heart
EDIT - Beaten...by -A- no less. :argh:
Sorry sweetie. :(
I didn't mean to do that. We're all allied in this now after all. Many loves to our goon brosefs. :)
QFT
PS. were forming in a lil while for shooty shooty k ______________________________
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Merces Mercedis
Minmatar Lunitic Fringe
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:40:00 -
[1071]
Edited by: Merces Mercedis on 13/11/2009 21:41:25 Will some Dev please take the time to give a explanation for these changes.
If there is a good reason maybe you will get some support, not the rage you have now over changes we the players do not understand and see as a game killer for those of us in 0.0
Do you understand you have now managed to totaly make a static 0.0 w/o any chance for anyone gaining or loosing any sov with a station what ever.
Please explain this to us.
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Odda
Gallente Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:41:00 -
[1072]
Before dominon,
Motership pilots lowed the ships they had.
All the nice officer mods they fitt. With these changes it's gona change A LOT.
No one is gona fitt cool mods on it any more. It will also end upp as "just another ship".
Motership where nice, and we loved them!
PLEASE GO BACK TO CHANGES THAT WHERE ON SISI LAST WEEK!
They where actaly nice, and balanced!
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Mkiaki
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:42:00 -
[1073]
Originally by: Odda Before dominon,
Motership pilots lowed the ships they had.
All the nice officer mods they fitt. With these changes it's gona change A LOT.
No one is gona fitt cool mods on it any more. It will also end upp as "just another ship".
Motership where nice, and we loved them!
PLEASE GO BACK TO CHANGES THAT WHERE ON SISI LAST WEEK!
They where actaly nice, and balanced!
The new ones rule
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Zaethiel
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:53:00 -
[1074]
There seems to be alot of rumors atm. I would like to know how things are all around atm.
1.Are Super Carriers getting 10 drone max now? 2.Expl Radius on compacts still at 1000? 3.Damage reduced from 3600 to 3200? 4.It true that their price was reduced by 50%? (that really sucks i payed 17bill for mine a long time ago).
The 10 drone max is pretty crappy since drones are killed so easily, plus HICs are redicuously tanked; A Super Carrier probably doesn't stand any chance of actually soloing a HIC within a reasonable amount of time. A BS could tank 20 fighters with an active tank (currently), how can anyone expect a mothership to be useful going off of 50% less DPS when it couldn't even kill a Drake with max skills. I thought they were supposed to be capital killers, at least let them kill capitals; atm it seems like a carrier or dread could just tank a mothership without problem esp. if you count triage and siege. -----
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Fleur D'oranger
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:54:00 -
[1075]
Edited by: Fleur D''oranger on 13/11/2009 21:54:30 This thread has turned into comedy gold, truly.
One half of the knowledgable people are saying that these will never be used again and that will ruin eve.
The other half of the knowledgable people are saying we're going to be ass deep in them and it will ruin Eve.
Which is it?
Look, I can remember when you were a force of nature in this game if you could field 20 battleships. Battleship fights were like, whoa!
Bit later on, you paniced if a dread showed up. Then it was 10 dreads... 50 dreads... 100 dreads.
Hello? Capital fights are so 2008. Time for super-cap fights. Anything has to be better than the stagnant status quo of the few collecting way too much from way too many, no? I think it'd be awesome to watch AAA and Goon and IT throw SCs and Titans at each other until they were flat busted and back in empire. Woudldn't it?
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JZIM
Caldari Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.11.13 21:55:00 -
[1076]
30 minute supercapital redock timer please kthx
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Trent Nichols
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.13 22:00:00 -
[1077]
Originally by: JZIM 30 minute supercapital redock timer please kthx
Aye. At the very least its time for different redock timers for different ship classes. I mean really, wouldn't it be more difficult to tractor a supercarrier into a station than a shuttle?
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Ryan Coolness
The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.11.13 22:01:00 -
[1078]
Edited by: Ryan Coolness on 13/11/2009 22:05:15
Quote:
* Can deploy 2 additional Fighter or Drone per level
ok, fair enough, better then just 10, if DCU on SCs also add 2 per level instead of 1 there could even be an incentive to fit a few of them
Quote:
Furthermore we're looking into solutions to reimburse current mothership pilots for the drop in construction cost.
Thank you for listening, I'd still rather have you keep them expensive as they are now instead, but at least we aint being robbed, thats good
Quote: * Can dock at stations
Together with the cost reduction this means the entry barrier to these ships got lowered by a lot. They will be very common ships and nothing "special" any more, loses a lot of the "feeling" to piloting them for sure (not talking about balance issues even like the docking games mentioned above) you know, feeling like this:
Originally by: "CCP Abathur
"Perhaps no ships in EVE symbolize the majesty of the game more than the Nyx, Wyvern, Aeon and Hel."
Personally I'd prefer they stayed exclusive, with high entry requirements and somewhat exclusive.
Plus a lot of people will prolly cancel their supercap pilots accounts, not because of emoragequit but because they aint needed any more with the docking possiblity, do you want that? It loses you money you know? :P
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ericret
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Posted - 2009.11.13 22:07:00 -
[1079]
Originally by: JZIM 30 minute supercapital redock timer please kthx
This. It will be great to dock supercarriers, but make it so that you can't play docking games with them PLEASE!
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Mnement'h
Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.11.13 22:07:00 -
[1080]
This is getting absurd ... CCP if you want Dominion to hit TQ on Dec 1st without it imploding all together leave the moms in their current Apocrypha state, launch dominion and then work some more on the whole deal till you can make something that isn't a lame excuse for a design solution ...
oh and please let go of the spreadsheet and actually play the game for a change ... and I mean the game on TQ, not the devs-with-spreadsheets playpen on SiSi. Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
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