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Rat Ace
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Posted - 2009.11.17 18:25:00 -
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Something needs to be done to curb the ammount of highsec ganking going on. Jita is especially bad with a minimum of 20 gankers at any given time sitting outside of station. There are several ways to curb this problem. I'll start with the overkill solution which I don't support but have herd people say. Concord anyone who targets a non-hostile target. Before you start fllameing me for that I don't support it. another way is to make cargo scanning a concordable offence. I have herd people counter this with a real life example of it's not illegal to look at someone, granted that is true but then again go open a womans purse and see if it's worth killing her over and you'll wind up in jail. And my last thought on this is to make a rig or module that will counter the cargo scanners that can only be fitted to industrial class ships that require industrial ship skill.
This in effect will lower the major market hub population of gankers looking for easy ISK rewards. The problem of gankers in high-sec market hubs is out of controll and something needs to be done to adress the issue.
As a recap here are my two ideas that I support for this topic: 1: cargo/ship scanning is concordable offence. 2: module or rig that will counter cargo/ship scanners to hide you cargo/modules.
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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.11.17 18:53:00 -
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Jita's sec makes it aweful hard to gank in.
2ndly. Get in Logistics ship and RR those being killed. If succesful they lose isk. gain nothing.
3rdly. Go steal the lewt before they can. You gain isk. They dont earn isk. They wont suicide if they arent the one making isk.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.11.17 19:00:00 -
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I spend a lot of time in Jita, and move valuables in and out routinely - nobody has ever even attempted to gank me there(except one time I was an idiot and autopiloted a covops with half a bil in it AFK). The gank fleet outside Jita 4/4 is usually Privateers and similar groups hitting their war targets. The freighter rotation point has Concord on it like 1% of the time, the actual station not much more, the gates maybe a few percent. Stop throwing 20 bil into an untanked hauler, and you'll be fine.
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Syekuda
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.11.17 19:02:00 -
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use a can. problem fixed...sort of. Unless you got an item which is more than the can which makes it impossible. Mhhh, yeah this is a kind of problem. You bought stuff, you move stuff, you go BOOM. pirate, pve, carebear or not it is very frustrating.
Mhh your ideas are a bit crazy so those I do not support but yeah I agree that something must be done. 20 ships waiting at a gate or station and in fleet must be considered grief or something.
On another note, try to stand in a somewhat crowded mall in a small gang. Big chances are you will get told by the security guard to move along.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.11.17 21:58:00 -
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You dont have to go to Jita.
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.17 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis dont ... go to Jita.
quote fixed
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2009.11.18 14:00:00 -
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Edited by: De''Veldrin on 18/11/2009 14:01:02 Yay another "nerf suicide ganking" thread. Didn't we already have our quota of these this week?
Seriously, there's nothing wrong with suicide ganking as a profession. Learn to properly tank/defend your ships and you won't have a problem. Do what so manyother people have done. Create a safe warp to point straight out from the undock - undock, warp off, go on about your day.
You have to be smarter than them - and really, it's not that effing hard. --Vel
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.11.18 16:41:00 -
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That time of the month again? Hormonal about losing expensive item x in completely unsuitably tanked ship y? Dr Lark prescribes hysterectomies all round.
Here are some solutions... pay attention now.
1. Tank your ship! This can be a buffer tank or what I like to call a 'brain tank' spotting likely threats and choke points and avoiding them.
2. Cloak your ship... If you can't use a Blockade Runner or Cov Ops it is still possible to use the cloak align trick in anything up to and including an Orca.
3. Enlist a friend! If you're hauling a ton of lewt in a freighter get a friend to escort you in a fast frig/fast locking rapier. Not only will he be able to scout for you but web you into warp, cutting your trip in half.
4. Insta undocks are cool! You complain about gankers sitting outside 4-4. Well, ISTR that you can insta undock from their by warping to planet 4 before anyone can even think about locking you. Also given the perma presense of CONCORD outside you need to fit your vessel to survive only 1 volley from any would be offender. It's easy enough to tank even an Itty 5 to survive a volley of 1400mm.
Suicide ganking is only a problem if you allow yourself to become a victim. You made a RL comparison. Here is one. Would you walk down the street in a less salubrious area of your town covered in bling with wads of cash stuffed in your pockets if you had the build of an anaemic holocaust survivor and were drunk off your **** on cheap booze? Because thats what an AFK T1 hauler with 500+mil of loot inside makes me think of.
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Baaldor
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.18 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rat Ace Something needs to be done to curb the ammount of highsec ganking going on. Jita is especially bad with a minimum of 20 gankers at any given time sitting outside of station. There are several ways to curb this problem. I'll start with the overkill solution which I don't support but have herd people say. Concord anyone who targets a non-hostile target. Before you start fllameing me for that I don't support it. another way is to make cargo scanning a concordable offence. I have herd people counter this with a real life example of it's not illegal to look at someone, granted that is true but then again go open a womans purse and see if it's worth killing her over and you'll wind up in jail. And my last thought on this is to make a rig or module that will counter the cargo scanners that can only be fitted to industrial class ships that require industrial ship skill.
This in effect will lower the major market hub population of gankers looking for easy ISK rewards. The problem of gankers in high-sec market hubs is out of controll and something needs to be done to adress the issue.
As a recap here are my two ideas that I support for this topic: 1: cargo/ship scanning is concordable offence. 2: module or rig that will counter cargo/ship scanners to hide you cargo/modules.
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Frogman Henry
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.11.18 20:28:00 -
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You run the same routes and enter and leave the same stations every day?
Correct answers Make instas, you dope. They can't scan you if you enter warp a split second after you undock. Don't autopilot. Fit stabs on all non-freighters. Cap the worth of what you carry in your freighter. Scout.
Incorrect answers Whine like a baby to further hobble the game . |
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