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Ceirah
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:22:00 -
[841]
Originally by: Eniy Oh Moderation discussion removed. Navigator
We are paying customers with very legitimate concerns, DON'T IGNORE US.
You're wrecking your own game here, and you're making me, who was at first midly concerned, pretty damn ****ed right now.
And confirming I'm paying your company (5 x 15) x 12 = 900 euros/year. That's more than any other non-essential service I'm buying.
In return for this trust I place in your company, I don't wish to be treated this way.
Anyway, BACK ON TOPIC, hoping this won't get deleted:
The release of Dominion should be delayed and all issues the playerbase has with it needs to be properly addressed. Or if this is not an option step it up and fix it now when you still have time.
Otherwise I fear CCP will have made one nerf too many, and ****ed of its memberbase just a bit too much and you'll get a failure cascade of people unsubscribing like you've never seen before.
Edit: on a more constructive note: in the future don't set release dates in stone. You like to use "Soon (tm)" a lot when referring to when a new feature comes out, the playerbase accepts that, but why on earth then throw that flexibility out of the window when it's time to do an actual expansion? Maybe you should try something like "expansion might be here in December, stay tuned", and work from there. God knows you guys have trouble keeping deadlines as it is.
Take it from a guy who's also a businessman: keeping your clients happy is mostly about managing expectations!!!
Maybe some of them forgets sometimes where the money comes from..
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Commander Ogir
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:23:00 -
[842]
When there was the first SC test, everything was fine. Why isnt it now anymore? Please let us understand what the problem with those Supercarriers is/was.
If it was too much FB damage - reduce the numbers of FBs possible on them, raise the bandwith-needs.
Is it because of the servers? I dont think so, because otherwise you wouldnt have lowered the price so more ppl can buy them which would even increase the server load for fighters(400x20 now against 2000x10 with proposed changes).
Just give us the SCs as they were originally intended! Please!
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N Ano
Caldari SoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:26:00 -
[843]
Damn I feel sorry for ccp. They screwed up yes, but they brought one hell of a ****storm on themselves Make the Beership a reality! |
Overlord Anubis
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:28:00 -
[844]
Can I purchase CCP Nozh's incompetence insurance?
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Riflektshon
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:29:00 -
[845]
Dear CCP, Is anyone going to post any more info about all the above. Or is that it you have said what your going to do and we all have to live with it?
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BCE 3AHRTO
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:31:00 -
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Can someone who put Nozh in charge of caps post here so we can very civilly show them the error of their ways? We're not the monsters you've been led to believe! *puts on target painters for next mothership hotdrop*
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Eniy Oh
Gallente United Systems Navy Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:32:00 -
[847]
Navigator: thanks for at least showing you've deleted part of my post.
Though I'd like to state here that the first part of my post contained my expressed disgust about the fact posts are being deleted at all. --- The one whose ship names don't pass the sanity test while the rest of him is rather sane |
Aphrodite Whiterose
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:34:00 -
[848]
Originally by: Vashan Tar
Originally by: Mashie Saldana Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 20/11/2009 01:03:43 Target Painters ***Do NOT Work*** on Supercaps, Structures, or Sieged Caps
You do realise that with the constant contradicting statements that you have been releasing (two goddamn weeks before dominion is released), that you have completely lost any confidence people may have had that this expansion is not going to be a complete and utter abortion. You then appear to have assigned a dev who has NO CLUE about capital warfare and what actually happens in nullsec (docking motherships? Target painting towers? I don't even fly a cap and know that this is up there with the charge of the light brigade in DUMB THINGS TO DO), who then completely invalidates all the previous testing and feedback that has been given on sisi on what appeared to be well thought out propsals for the long overdue capital rebalance that has been sorely needed. Please take CCP Nozh off the capital team and put him on something where he's not going to (1) Expose his complete lack of knowledge about INTERNET SPACESHIPS (loltargetpainters) and (2) Won't cause icelands economy to tank (the second time) when you lose the only thing thats keeping it afloat, i.e your subscribers............... Put him somewhere where he won't completely sabotage the hard work done by dev's that actually appear to know what they're talking about. World of Darkness would be a good choice.
L2P CCP!
How can we trust you to balance a game when you dont even know basic mechanics? Abathurs changes were good and what the community wanted and provided feedback for. To remove them by someone who doesnt know game mechanics or how to play and who ignores the players is just insulting.
Ive been letting my accounts expire over time down from 5 to 2 due to how inept you seem to be these days CCP. I have my mom and my main accounts left active and will be letting these expire when my time runs out next year after 5 and a half years of playing.
----------------------------------------------- Amarr - Playing EVE in Hardcore Mode since 2007 |
Eben Rochelle
Gallente RPS holdings
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:36:00 -
[849]
Add one to the disgruntled threadnaught.
Seriously, the Sov changes are awful, the Cap changes are awful and as one of the cool kids i suppose i should mention loltarget painters.
Dreads are still completely pointless now that Tower (sov) seiges are out of the window. At least reduce the build costs ffs. Naglfar is still the red headed step child!
Sov changes?!?!?!? In 2 years this is the best you could come up with? Come on guys sort it out. This is "sketched on the back of a *** packet in the pub" stuff not 2 years of serious thought.
Moms, bleh.
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:41:00 -
[850]
Have I missed something or don't the vast majority of capital fights just get decided by whichever side hotdrops the other with 3x the number of caps the other side has so that its typically a complete whitewash vthat will not be changed whether a particular ship type has ten times as many hit points or not?
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Lothar Vimes
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:42:00 -
[851]
Good news everybody. JGE isn't that far away
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Aphrodite Whiterose
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:43:00 -
[852]
Sov changes: Lets make 0.0 more dynamic by making it take 36 hours to take a system from an enemy and you have to be present throughout that entire time. (excluding DTs ofc)
Does anyone actually think things through before implementing them anymore or do you just give a bunch of monkies a bucket full of changes and just go with whatever they pick out and throw against a wall?
----------------------------------------------- Amarr - Playing EVE in Hardcore Mode since 2007 |
ITTigerClawIK
Amarr Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:43:00 -
[853]
ok this is rediculus, i dont even use missiles but i could tlel you from the ofset that Target painters dont work starbases and structures, and whats with the sudden turn around on caps, we had some awesome changes that worked and then you went and mucked with them agian and make them worse than they already are, and remember, "If it works, it dont need fixing"
Sig space reclaimed in the name of me -courtesy of Tiggy ([email protected]) |
fuze
Gallente Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:44:00 -
[854]
Guys, those junior devs clearly lack knowledge of changing game mechanics for caps. This needs to be resolved quickly by replacing them with a team of your recruited veteran players who do have a clue.
Give the moms higher resists for the Titan weapon so they can withstand about 10 volleys and give them those (nerfed)fighter bombers. Some moar <3 to naffies and voila. Might not be perfect but it's a good start.
Originally by: The Mittani Where's the excellence?
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Misaki Yuuko
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:45:00 -
[855]
****ty post from a crapp dev.
Sky is falling.
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Iloni Atoriandra
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:46:00 -
[856]
Well it seems this expansion will be a truly well thought out New Game Experience (NGE), what could possibly go wrong?
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malet
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:47:00 -
[857]
Seriously CCP what the hell!
You go ahead with the Titan buff and forget us mothership pilots again. How can you justify this. People who fly motherships fit the best they can to them, now you change the goalposts again. Unless you fit the best modules and I do mean the best ingame, you are gonna get popped by a couple of titans. So are we just supposed to swallow another year of sitting in POS shields not using these beasts!!!!!
Why no HP buff at least. Motherships will not be used on the capital battlefield until you fix this crap. So far all CCP NOZH has done is alienate the long term players that have worked hard for years to get motherships and now it`s yet another slap in the face for us.
Lets just hope a new MMorpg comes out soon. As you will end up driving people away with this rubbish patch!!
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T'Karr
Minmatar Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:48:00 -
[858]
They have done a u-turn on the moms now.... which ironicaly has nerfed them more than they would have been....
Moms will be just as useless if they dont have the armour/shield buff and the fighter bombers... Dreads are being buffed up for close range, which gives mom pilots even less reason to use their motherships!
Come on CCP, grow some balls and release the mom patch, dont let the moaners stop you... The game will be MORE balanced with the mom patch.
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Venetian Tar
United Systems Navy Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:50:00 -
[859]
Edited by: Venetian Tar on 20/11/2009 11:50:38
Originally by: Overlord Anubis Can I purchase CCP Nozh's incompetence insurance?
Originally by: Eben Rochelle Edited by: Eben Rochelle on 20/11/2009 11:37:17 Add one to the disgruntled threadnaught.
Seriously, the Sov changes are awful, the Cap changes are awful and as one of the cool kids i suppose i should mention loltarget painters.
Dreads are still completely pointless now that Tower (sov) seiges are out of the window. At least reduce the build costs ffs. Naglfar is still the red headed step child!
I agree here. I personally don't fly the Nag, but I was training an alt towards one thanks to the buff it had recently.
I guess I could always go back to the Moros... Oh wait...
+1 to disgruntledness in this thread and with CCP.
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Herar Domain
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:52:00 -
[860]
Ok to sum that up:
1.Moms on SiS were epic and everbody loved them,I for my part worked like a machine to get my before dominion >>> 2.Moms get nerved to a crappy ship even more useless than they are atm. >>> 3.Mom improvment won't be done (within the next 6 months ) so a new pwnzr Titan DD can nearly oneshot my nyx. >>> 4.All Mom pilots will be anyoned.
But wait I haven an real nice Idea! What about giving Motherships a new name like errr Supercarrier?And give them the ability to launch 20 new Fightersized Drones which can kill other Caps.I call them Fighterstriker.Of course they need a HP buff as well let say about 15-20 mil effective Hit Points so I can field my moms errr supercarrier (great name isnt it?) without the possibility to die in 2-3Minutes of battle.
What do u guys think about my ideas? Think they are quite genius...
but wait...waaait....Abathur made all this!Oh noes somebody was faster than me :(
Come on CCP.Take the old prenozhnerf Moms like Abi wanted to make them.Everybody loved them and u r fearings that there will be unstopable Supercarrier squads roaming amongst new eden are true,granted,but u won t , prevent that anyways.So pleaaaaaaaaaaase take Abathurs ideas nerv the Fighterbomber dmg a bit and set the explosion radius a bit higher (not so high like nozhnerf) but a bit.
Trust you r players we play the game every day and know what s going on and what we are missing in the game.
Herar
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:53:00 -
[861]
Hey Nozh, are you going to quickly hack in some target painter that will be able to affect sieged capitals etc.?
Yeah, that would fit into all the other design approaches. No clear design documents, quick and dirty hacks, ignoring player feedback etc. And all only so that 'your' solution can work. How about taking a step back, eh?
There was TONS of player feedback on the test forums, WEEKS of productive work with CCP Abathur who has realy a lot of game experience and there was a solution which finally made everyone happy.
All wiped out by a guy who doesn't even know the most basic game mechanics and has no clue about capital warfare. A guy who bases his 'weapon balancing' around non-existing gameplay.
And CCP doesn't understand that this is outraging?
Oh, and still waiting for some numbers. Or do I need to go to the test server and lookup all the numbers myself? Then I don't need those blogs. The only number in the devblog is that the new siege cruise missile will have 1500 explosive radius. What speed they have? What damage, rof? Fitting properties of siege cruise missile launchers? How about titans? What damage they do? How many hp? Boni? Cooldown of DD? This devblog is total BS talk.
Next time please no completely unnecessary graphs, less nonsense talk and more solid numbers!
I really love Eve and hate it seeing going down like this
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Eric Starym
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:54:00 -
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1) realized capital warfare needs a rework ... checked 2) having an idea where to go ... checked 3) applying it to test server and getting feedback ... checked 4) does it works ... checked 5) changing a running system ... checked 6) disregarding all previous feedback and testing from players ... checked 7) turning intended changes upside down ... checked 8) realizing what effects the changes have ... failed 9) having any clue about the relevant game mechanics ... failed 10) success of capital warfare rework .. FAILED
hint hint The explosion velocity is slightly higher than that of the Citadel Cruise Missiles (or 2250) which means target painters will have to be utilized in many situations to achieve full damage potential.
If you got no clue, it is better to just keep the mouth shut. Every child learns that while talking with matures. Listen, think, think again, press push to talk button, talk, rethink what you said...pretty basic stuff tbh
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Kaeser
Caldari DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:57:00 -
[863]
For goodness sake please take Nozh away from anything to do with this game.
Bring on the mothership changes as they were originally succesfully suggested by Abarthur and tested by the players with great acclaim.
Bring on the AF buff as it seemed to be well received and gave a proper role to these ships.
Don't undo the popular changes you have previously made to the NAgalfar, the players do not want the proposed new changes !
Seeing a pattern here CCP ?
Please listen to your players and think about what you're doing before you put the knife in once and for all.
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NathanMoore
Cataclysm Enterprises Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.11.20 11:59:00 -
[864]
Edited by: NathanMoore on 20/11/2009 12:00:05
Originally by: Crimsonjade Edited by: Crimsonjade on 20/11/2009 00:20:12 I would like to know and the entire Mothership community would like to know why ABATHUR's ideas were shelved. We know you dont want to discuss it on the forums. but at least do what you used to and explain it.
Could we please get some more in depth explanations what (the hell) you are doing with the Capitals? I really can't see a clear line of what you try to achieve with those modifications, the whole changes after Abathur disapeered from the Forums seem like one hell of a mess.
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GPFS
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Posted - 2009.11.20 12:02:00 -
[865]
Originally by: NathanMoore Edited by: NathanMoore on 20/11/2009 12:00:05
Originally by: Crimsonjade Edited by: Crimsonjade on 20/11/2009 00:20:12 I would like to know and the entire Mothership community would like to know why ABATHUR's ideas were shelved. We know you dont want to discuss it on the forums. but at least do what you used to and explain it.
Could we please get some more in depth explanations what (the hell) you are doing with the Capitals? I really can't see a clear line of what you try to achieve with those modifications, the whole changes after Abathur disapeered from the Forums seem like one hell of a mess.
I doubt they have any idea, what they are doing...
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Ne0tr0n
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.20 12:05:00 -
[866]
this is the most supid bull**** i've ever read!
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Iloni Atoriandra
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.11.20 12:05:00 -
[867]
Put Abathur in charge of all of these and sack Nozh or move him to mining or something since he clearly knows nothing about pvp or combat mechanics. I think by now he must be the most hated person at CCP, from a marketing prospective it would be such a positive step to fire him CCP.
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Fylin Manslayer
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Posted - 2009.11.20 12:11:00 -
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These changes are pretty much terrible....my mothership remains only useful for random hot drops....but now it can be killed instantly if there is an enemy titan around.
It is a real shame that you are pushing a lot of people (not even super cap pilots) to the edge of their patience. Many people are cancelling their alts and some their mains too until things are resolved.
What is the point in me keeping the ship for moving and to hide in a pos?
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.11.20 12:13:00 -
[869]
Originally by: "CCP EpicTard"
The explosion velocity is slightly higher than that of the Citadel Cruise Missiles (or 2250) which means target painters will have to be utilized in many situations to achieve full damage potential.
Too bad you can't paint the natural target for dreds, other dreads or supercaps... -- 081014 : emoragequit, char transfered to a friend, 090317 : back to original owner blog |
Hurricane Carter
0ccam's Razor Varangians.
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Posted - 2009.11.20 12:13:00 -
[870]
2 things:
At this point:
- Delay dominion, do it proper or go home (T3 friggies also plz) - Someone at CCP go and slap Nozh with a trout (and gief HD Youtube link)
't is all
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