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Albert Threestone
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Posted - 2009.11.20 05:41:00 -
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Had just logged in and checked some stats, when I recognized that the cap recharge and the shield recharge of the CNR had been reduced. Anyone tried it, to tell me whether they totally nerfed it?
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Lijhal
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.11.20 07:18:00 -
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b/c ccp dont like achura missionrunners like you!
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Silver Tongues
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Posted - 2009.11.20 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Albert Threestone Had just logged in and checked some stats, when I recognized that the cap recharge and the shield recharge of the CNR had been reduced. Anyone tried it, to tell me whether they totally nerfed it?
Cap and shield recharge were brought in line with the other faction ships. There's a thread or dev blog around here with CCP's explanation on the changes.
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Kill Mestuppid
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Posted - 2009.11.20 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lijhal b/c ccp dont like achura missionrunners like you!
Nay, everyone knows it is not all achura. It's caldari as a race. Ask any cap pilot ;)
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Albert Threestone
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Posted - 2009.11.20 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Silver Tongues
Originally by: Albert Threestone Had just logged in and checked some stats, when I recognized that the cap recharge and the shield recharge of the CNR had been reduced. Anyone tried it, to tell me whether they totally nerfed it?
Cap and shield recharge were brought in line with the other faction ships. There's a thread or dev blog around here with CCP's explanation on the changes.
Yeah, I thought so. I guess the shield recharge rate is in line, with any armor tanker now. So goes another reason to fly caldari. I guess if your a caldari / exploration / cap toon you should commit suicide right away. Some call it genocide, ccp calls it expansion.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.11.20 07:53:00 -
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those shield tanking skills are good additions to the amarr missile range and the nightmare Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |
Captain Mastiff
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Posted - 2009.11.20 23:42:00 -
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WHAT!!! They've actually shagged the CNR?
If they decrease our tankability by decreasing the cap why don't we gain a standard 10% on EM resistance on shield. Considering how the armour tankers don't have any damage type with a resistance of 0%.
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Lord Haur
Amarr StarHunt
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Posted - 2009.11.21 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Mastiff If they decrease our tankability by decreasing the cap why don't we gain a standard 10% on EM resistance on shield. Considering how the armour tankers don't have any damage type with a resistance of 0%.
Does this mean I'll be getting auto-recharge on my armor?
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Qwert0
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Posted - 2009.11.21 03:50:00 -
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Why would they reduce the cap recharge? On TQ it is identical to a normal Raven.....
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Captain Mastiff
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Posted - 2009.11.23 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Mastiff on 23/11/2009 02:09:08
Originally by: Lord Haur
Originally by: Captain Mastiff If they decrease our tankability by decreasing the cap why don't we gain a standard 10% on EM resistance on shield. Considering how the armour tankers don't have any damage type with a resistance of 0%.
Does this mean I'll be getting auto-recharge on my armor?
Why the hell not hey! We don't need level V Missile Bombardment for bombs anymore! I think all the expected updates were nerfed or not given at all. Rockets being one and AF bonuses. So would it be that weird to see armour recharge?
Though I find the recharge on shields fairer over armour due to the fact that Armours biggest extender is nearly twice the HP bonus than Shield.
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Alaura Aquila
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.11.23 02:14:00 -
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What a pile of steaming goat ****.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.11.23 02:16:00 -
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no more afk mission running how sad Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |
Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.11.23 03:30:00 -
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The shield recharge nerf was applied to all the empire faction ships. Which was particularly a tempest fleet issue nerf.
CNR on the otherhand... nobody ever passive tanked them. So big deal.
As for cap recharge nerf? Pretty sure that isnt in place.
So realistically nothing changed for cnr. BEsides the drone boost and such.
So realistically nothing changed.
as for...
Quote: no more afk mission running how sad
Nobody ever afk mission ran in a cnr. That doesnt even make sense. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded. |
HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.11.23 03:33:00 -
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surprised u would be Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.11.23 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: HeliosGal surprised u would be
How about nobody who wants to make better isk an hour than spamming level 2 missions uses a fof cruise cnr.
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Windjammer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.23 07:48:00 -
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Sisi has the same cap numbers for the CNR as Tranquility does. The only change is in shield recharge rate.
Doing this to bring the CNR in line with other faction ships seems to be a bit wrong. Amarr and Gallente ships won't be affected at all while the CNR will be. That recharge time becomes something you notice as the shield is driven down towards 30% and the shield tank actually becomes tougher because of the shield recharge rate. Like Caldari ships needed yet another nerf?!
Armor tankers won't care or notice. Where's the parity?
Windjammer
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Batolemaeus
Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.11.23 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Windjammer Like Caldari ships needed yet another nerf?!
Mission runner ships? Heck yes. ----------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
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Albert Threestone
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Posted - 2009.11.23 09:06:00 -
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Ok, check it again. 5312/1154s now on both tranq and sissi. So that at least is back to normal again.
Now my only depression comes from my t2 shield rigs on my fleet tempest :(
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Metaplex
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Posted - 2009.11.23 12:30:00 -
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It's a huge "nerf" for those that armour tank their CNR!
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Wonator
Caldari 2nd Blood Raven Assault Squad
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Posted - 2009.11.23 14:28:00 -
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They dont nerfing CNR, they nerfing Caldari as race. 2nd Blood Raven Assault Squad Feel the wrath of Caldari |
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Obsidian Hawk
Free Galactic Enterprises FREGE
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Posted - 2009.11.23 17:18:00 -
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You guys are just noticing this now??? This was announced back in september and was welcomed with open arms by everyone that hated seeing 3125 npc corp players in CNR's farming level 4's. Give it a break this means you have to active shield tank now instead of passive shield tank.
and yes, eve online easy mode got a nerf.
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Alaura Aquila
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.11.23 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk You guys are just noticing this now??? This was announced back in september and was welcomed with open arms by everyone that hated seeing 3125 npc corp players in CNR's farming level 4's. Give it a break this means you have to active shield tank now instead of passive shield tank.
and yes, eve online easy mode got a nerf.
I'm ok with it if it doesn't **** up my active shield tank as it is, I've always done active shield tank anyway on my CNR, except for my WH Drake and other various ships.
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Chi Quan
Bibkor Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.11.23 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Batolemaeus Mission runner ships? Heck yes.
Can't see the sense of that statement, care to elaborate? ---- Ceterum censeo blasters need some tracking love |
Windjammer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.24 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Chi Quan Edited by: Chi Quan on 23/11/2009 23:01:58
Originally by: Batolemaeus
Originally by: Windjammer Like Caldari ships needed yet another nerf?!
Mission runner ships? Heck yes.
Can't see the sense of that statement, care to elaborate?
It doesn't make sense because you expect it to. By your expectation you're overshooting his level of intelligence.
Here's the problem. You expect him to actually support his allegation that Caldari ships need a nerf. What he's saying is mission runners favor the Caldari Raven. He dislikes people running missions so of course in his mind the Raven class needs to be nerfed. That the CNR might be used for something else other than missions isn't important. He wants to get those mission runners. Presumably because they have isk and he doesn't.
Simply put, he's working from a tunnel vision perspective due to the juxtaposition of his head and the back of his front. Expecting him to make sense is wishful thinking. He actually used a couple of multi-syllable words. That's about as well as you can expect.
Windjammer
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Batolemaeus
Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.11.27 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Chi Quan Edited by: Chi Quan on 23/11/2009 23:01:58
Originally by: Batolemaeus
Originally by: Windjammer Like Caldari ships needed yet another nerf?!
Mission runner ships? Heck yes.
Can't see the sense of that statement, care to elaborate?
Caldari PvP ships are already balanced and have their roles. Ships like the Golem, Cnr, Nightawk or Tengu however outperform any other races ships in Pve. Ask a Vargur pilot how happy he is in missions..or a Paladin pilot who can't change his damage type. Compare the Nighthawk to the Absolution..
Point being, imo there shouldn't be a single race completely outperforming any other race. In a PvP environment, you see caldari filling a niche of force multipliers and antisupport. PvE however isn't as diversified as neither speed, nor agility, ecm or cap warfare play any significant role in it. The only thing that counts is a tank and an optimal range of at least 55km..
Whether you boost other races by diversifying pve or flat out nerf caldari missile boats, it all comes down to a decrease in caldari promincence in pve. Which would be a great thing. As a bonus, the angry posters like the one above would go bat**** crazy over it. Any nerf whether direct or indirect would result in an incredible amount of very loud whine.. ----------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.11.27 02:58:00 -
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Cardari PVP ships are balanced in ttheir various roles. The advantage is in the PVE area. Damage specific missiles are the iwin button fgor pve.
55km optimal is the go and dps specific tank.
The only wya to give say the apoc or aramaggedon a boost would be to have khandid amarr variants with missiles. Or a drone bonus perhaps a amarr-caldari bs with a kinetic and explosive drone bonus specific to those ships - gives ideas for future expansion
Or a blood raider-serpentis cooperative project that produces a missile boat that has a 100% dps modifier if kinetic and explosive drones are used
Same goes for minmatar getting a ship that gives a drone bonus to EM-Thermal drones Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |
Windjammer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.27 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Batolemaeus Caldari PvP ships are already balanced and have their roles.
This statement, alone, shows the credibility of your statments.
Caldari ships are already deemed by most to be one of the poorest choices for PvP. And your whine about Amarr having no ability to change their damage type is absurd coming from one of the favored choices for PvP. I happen to know a Vargur pilot and he's extremely happy with the way his ship blazes through missions. I also know a few Kronos pilots who are equally fast going through missions and very dedicated to their brand of ship and they can't change their damage type any more than a Paladin can.
Yeah. Lets nerf anything that isn't Amarr and/or Minmatar. Let's boost everything that is Amarr and/or Minmatar. You poor little lambs aren't getting a fair shake and need all the help you can get.
Windjammer
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Windjammer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.27 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: HeliosGal More troll fodder.
As for you?You'll parrot anything that you think will work for a troll. At best your ideas throughout the forums, though prolific, are poorly thought out, sloppily worded and written in a lazy fashion. It's an act of charity to call them troll attempts. To take them seriously would be cruel.
If you aren't already affiliated with goonswarm, you might consider contacting them. You share a lot in common with them already and they'd probably welcome you with open arms.
Windjammer
P.S. I liked some of Hunter's stuff, but gonzo journalism was never anything except crap wrapped in pretty paper in an attempt to make it look like artistic intellect and the joke was.....he knew that.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.11.27 11:24:00 -
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stability of credible statments is a misnomer
Caldari offshoot t2 ships are fairly good for pvp, its the t1 that are poorest pvp choices. Amarr not changing damage relies on some drone for alternative dmage generation. ABsurdity comes from entrenced views. Paladin and kronos need some variants as well
Im in favour of introducing more khandid and intaki ships as factions in their own right with mergers of the varous races ( gallente with projectiles and amarr with caldari missile tehcnology)
The fair shake will be in ccps balance Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.27 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Mastiff WHAT!!! They've actually shagged the CNR?
Nope, it has more power and cpu now. Now it is actually awesome. Less fitting mods to fit all T2 Launchers.
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