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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.02.16 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark 2009.11.22 Suspense Accounts After six months any balances remaining in suspense accounts will be written off.
Suspense1,305,137,714,392 Retained Income(1,218,502,470,741)
Did you guys expect so little to be claimed? This is crazy.
According to various posts earlier in the thread, no projections as to the quantity of write-offs were ever carried out. No answers were given when the question was asked at what % the whole exercise would be considered a failure. Given Ray's extension of a similiar policy to AATP with the explicit aim of expropriating money (rather than the fraud prevention cover story we got with EBANK) I expect the bank will see this as a major business success story.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.02.16 11:31:00 -
[872]
/me gives RAW23 a pacifier.
Are you back to play with us for reals or are you just going to run off again claiming quitsies to live in that fairytale world of yours you're trying so hard to pigeon-hole EVE in.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.02.16 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack /me gives RAW23 a pacifier.
Are you back to play with us for reals or are you just going to run off again claiming quitsies to live in that fairytale world of yours you're trying so hard to pigeon-hole EVE in.
/me sucks pacifier.
Restricting myself to one post every 4 pages or 2 weeks in EBANK threads. Back to play but more moderately.
Why would I run off to a fairy tale world when I have an internet spaceships one? I've given up trying to import basic values in to business practices here. I'm just going to hang around and point out every now and again that the pigeon-hole you are trying to jam EVE into is a pretty unpleasant place.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.02.16 16:18:00 -
[874]
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 a bit too drunk
Quoting for oxymoron. You can never be too drunk, just like an earthquake can never be too earthquakey. And I do believe the scientific measurement of drunkenness is in degrees of ugly - the fuglometer. General markings being references to acquaintances or celebrities, or references to celebrities in varying states of being.
So when asked how drunk you were last night, you could reply "I believe I was close to Drew Barrymore with One Eye and a Rotting Foot but for all I know it could have been Denzel Washington With a Limp-Lisp and Mullet" (I know, hawt, right?).
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Nitrogendixoide
Old Farts Club DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.02.16 22:59:00 -
[875]
I'm not going to roll through 30 pages here, but in response to the OP...
that's a bunch of bull****. Evebank is insolvent. Instead of just liquidating what assets you have and paying everyone back as best you can, you're just stealing money straight out from inactive users. There's no opportunity for them to opt out and demand repayment, or a refusal of the new contract terms.
Effectively EVE bank as the borrower of all this money is unilaterally changing the contract to dispossess huge numbers of the people of the property they have every right to.
I would suggest that no one ever deal with this company ever again.
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Solisk
Gallente HyperFang Aquisitions And Logistics
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Posted - 2010.02.17 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Nitrogendixoide I'm not going to roll through 30 pages here, but in response to the OP...
that's a bunch of bull****. Evebank is insolvent. Instead of just liquidating what assets you have and paying everyone back as best you can, you're just stealing money straight out from inactive users. There's no opportunity for them to opt out and demand repayment, or a refusal of the new contract terms.
Effectively EVE bank as the borrower of all this money is unilaterally changing the contract to dispossess huge numbers of the people of the property they have every right to.
I would suggest that no one ever deal with this company ever again.
Sorry man, the "Raging Public" phase is pretty much over. You missed it by a couple of months and all the issues have been thoroughly discussed.
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Dzil
Caldari SafeHouse Investments of Tautology
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Posted - 2010.02.17 17:25:00 -
[877]
Originally by: Solisk Sorry man, the "Raging Public" phase is pretty much over. You missed it by a couple of months and all the issues have been thoroughly discussed.
Not all of them. We still don't know what happened over macho grande.
Dzil's Corp Sales - 200m |
Professor Bunsen
Optech Scientific
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Posted - 2010.02.17 17:34:00 -
[878]
Originally by: Dzil We still don't know what happened over macho grande.
Is this a nickname for someone on the current management team? OPTECH Unit Trust Results OPTECH Loans |
Mephistocles
Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2010.02.17 20:16:00 -
[879]
Originally by: Dzil
Originally by: Solisk Sorry man, the "Raging Public" phase is pretty much over. You missed it by a couple of months and all the issues have been thoroughly discussed.
Not all of them. We still don't know what happened over macho grande.
I don't think ebank will ever be over Macho Grande.
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.02.21 10:10:00 -
[880]
Originally by: Mephistocles
Originally by: Dzil
Originally by: Solisk Sorry man, the "Raging Public" phase is pretty much over. You missed it by a couple of months and all the issues have been thoroughly discussed.
Not all of them. We still don't know what happened over macho grande.
I don't think ebank will ever be over Macho Grande.
Correct, they hide details, have no plans, cant even blody manage to reach goals they set themselfs. And we should trust these clowns to return your money?
in my book i count Ebank as lost.
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Rada Ionesco
Caldari Club a Seal
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Posted - 2010.02.21 17:19:00 -
[881]
Originally by: Rada Ionesco
Originally by: SetrakDark
Originally by: Rada Ionesco Do any of you know who might be in the market to do a A2P trade/buy for my account. Last I heard they were being bought for .40/1.00 isk value, but for the life of me I can't find the forum thread or posts where that was discussed.
Linkage
Thanks for the link. So I made a IHAFS account following all of their instructions and then confirmed and activated the account. I then logged into my E-Bank account and attempted to move money to their designated character for account trades, but E-Banks site is now telling me I am trying to move more money than I have in my Suspense account. This is clearly not the case, since I copied and pasted, then checked the amount I had put in the transfer window. Whats next? Is your transfer mechanic broken?
Don't anyone bother with these IHAFS guys. I have been trying to get y money form them for several weeks now, it's a joke. I have made several good faith eve mails and gone through their support section, and even got some eve mails back to the effect that my transfer would be processed in 48 hours (got that one twice). But in the end I still have none of my money, so it's a wash IMO.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.02.22 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dasola
Correct, they hide details, have no plans, cant even blody manage to reach goals they set themselfs. And we should trust these clowns to return your money?
in my book i count Ebank as lost.
Hide details? have no plans? Cant even blody manage to reach goals they set for themselfs? Clowns? Yes, we are clowns. 1 out of 4 isn't too bad.
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Leneerra
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.02.22 20:40:00 -
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Going from 35.67% liabilities ratio to a staggering 35.56% in 3 months is impressive. It is by far the slowest fall in ebank nett worth I have seen in your public financial figures ever since this whole crisis started.
Well done.
PS: If you are going to reply that your internal figures show something different, then why did you invite us victims and the general public as a whole to follow your total lack of published progress.
I never should have believed the public and personal reasurrances all would be well by the former management and the other people on ebank I did business with, after publication of the ricdic theft.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.02.23 05:44:00 -
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Just to let everyone know, our assets topped 700b a few weeks back - the current reflection on our public financials is a drawback of having them update from live data. The missing amounts are due to loans that were given out but required back-end modifications that I have not been able to do yet.
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Drab Cane
Carbenadium Industries
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Posted - 2010.02.23 07:50:00 -
[885]
Ray, good luck to you and your staff, on your continued quest for solvency. -----------------------------------------------
- Who Dares, Wins
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Marcus Baltar
Savaran Zhayedan Spah
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Posted - 2010.02.23 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack Just to let everyone know, our assets topped 700b a few weeks back - the current reflection on our public financials is a drawback of having them update from live data. The missing amounts are due to loans that were given out but required back-end modifications that I have not been able to do yet.
What is different about the loans mentioned in the quote compared to those you have been giving out previously that requires "back-end modifications"? --
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Dzil
Caldari SafeHouse Investments of Tautology
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Posted - 2010.02.23 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Baltar
Originally by: Ray McCormack Just to let everyone know, our assets topped 700b a few weeks back - the current reflection on our public financials is a drawback of having them update from live data. The missing amounts are due to loans that were given out but required back-end modifications that I have not been able to do yet.
What is different about the loans mentioned in the quote compared to those you have been giving out previously that requires "back-end modifications"?
Have you ever tried to get a receipt from a hooker?
Dzil's Corp Sales - 200m |
Carselyn
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Posted - 2010.02.28 08:53:00 -
[888]
Hi,
2 different sets of questions (probably already asked x times, I know):
When will you unfreeze the ISK deposited after the 25/08/2009? Since we have to provide our limited API Key, what happens if we sell a char? Do we have to transfer the money to another char? What if this char has deposited ISK after the 25/08/2209. Will the total amount of ISK considered as ĉfrozenĈ?
Thanks and good luck.
Yes, I know, EBank is insolvent, no point in asking...
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.02.28 09:06:00 -
[889]
Originally by: Carselyn When will you unfreeze the ISK deposited after the 25/08/2009?
It isn't frozen, please request a withdrawal and then file a support ticket - someone will action it for you (eventually).
Originally by: Carselyn Since we have to provide our limited API Key, what happens if we sell a char? Do we have to transfer the money to another char? What if this char has deposited ISK after the 25/08/2209. Will the total amount of ISK considered as ĉfrozenĈ?
Um... yes?
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debbie harrio
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Posted - 2010.02.28 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: debbie harrio on 28/02/2010 20:54:17 This is like a triple whammy, scam one level and they run with the isk, then scam the next level by putting in checks, defaulting on existing deposits and then.
Quote: Originally by: iP0D I'm just curious, what is the projected revenue from sales of the api keys, or has this not been discussed yet internally. There is a very active and quite lucrative market for these, as you are probably aware. Full keys are nice yes, but the useful value of a limited key is these days far higher because of the lower entry level of use.
If no projections or considerations were made and interest arises, please by all means evemail me for selection and batch quotes.
be able to invest in other areas maybe, blackmails anyone.....
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Carselyn
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Posted - 2010.03.03 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Carselyn When will you unfreeze the ISK deposited after the 25/08/2009?
It isn't frozen, please request a withdrawal and then file a support ticket - someone will action it for you (eventually).
Originally by: Carselyn Since we have to provide our limited API Key, what happens if we sell a char? Do we have to transfer the money to another char? What if this char has deposited ISK after the 25/08/2209. Will the total amount of ISK considered as ĉfrozenĈ?
Um... yes?
Thanks for the 1st answer. Now, what about the 3 others? 'Um...yes?' is a bit short
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Carselyn
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Posted - 2010.03.03 11:28:00 -
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oh, BTW, I just got this message:
The requested URL could not be retrieved
While trying to retrieve the URL: www.eve-bank.net:443
I suppose this is just temporary?
Cheers.
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Moon Dogg
Gallente The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.03.03 19:03:00 -
[893]
Not sure what the 443 refers to, but I can get into the eBank site, as well as my account, with no problems whatsoever.
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Dzil Alt
Caldari StrwBerry Pancakes
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Posted - 2010.03.03 20:02:00 -
[894]
Has ebank considered rendering an option to convert some of it's current debt into some kind of transferable bond? Obviously you want to ensure a customer passes your API key check prior to unlocking the balance to said bond, but would it be much work to convert account balances into shares in a holding corp that could be traded on a stock exchange platform? (thinking of BMBE, though no reason for exclusivity).
I mainly ask because I'm curious how much account holders would ask for their ebank isk at the moment: We've seen a few non-starter bids for accounts, but I haven't witnessed much if any counter offers from account holders.
I'm not sure what your adoption rate is on transfers so far, but I would think more folks transferring their account balances over to bonds to load onto an exchange service could come out to a lot of 5% fees.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.03 20:11:00 -
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If I have followed the EBANK rules correctly they will soon be at 100% capital requirements.
We are close to the 6 month adendum on API details, so at 6 months all those accounts that don't have API verification will be wiped.
Those who have API verified accounts should be able to draw on those accounts. A run on the bank occurs and the assets liquidated and API verified accounts get 100%, non API verified get nada.
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Dzil Alt
Caldari StrwBerry Pancakes
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Posted - 2010.03.03 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray If I have followed the EBANK rules correctly they will soon be at 100% capital requirements.
We are close to the 6 month adendum on API details, so at 6 months all those accounts that don't have API verification will be wiped.
Those who have API verified accounts should be able to draw on those accounts. A run on the bank occurs and the assets liquidated and API verified accounts get 100%, non API verified get nada.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1218519&page=27#783
I think they may have reversed that. Of course, they could always reverse the reversal.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.03.03 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray
A run on the bank occurs and the assets liquidated and API verified accounts get 100%, non API verified get nada.
This can't happen, if I followed Ray's posts correctly. They will still have withdrawal controls in place if the ratio falls below a certain level.
Also, they changed their minds about wiping balances. They will "just" be taken off the balance sheet and put into a suspended status.
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Marara Kovacs
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Posted - 2010.03.09 11:18:00 -
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How exactly do I supply you with my api key? I have been trying to contact you and cant, no support ticket query is getting answered, so how do i goive you my api key securely?
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.03.09 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Marara Kovacs How exactly do I supply you with my api key? I have been trying to contact you and cant, no support ticket query is getting answered, so how do i goive you my api key securely?
Patronising and inadequate answer (probably implying that the problems/lack of customer service are actually your fault) incoming in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2010.03.09 12:28:00 -
[900]
Originally by: Ray McCormack Just to let everyone know, our assets topped 700b a few weeks back - the current reflection on our public financials is a drawback of having them update from live data. The missing amounts are due to loans that were given out but required back-end modifications that I have not been able to do yet.
Boring - This thread has like, totaly jumped the shark
SKUNK (o)
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