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Sim Cognito
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Posted - 2009.12.03 14:06:00 -
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Mining currently faces a series of issues,besides the awkward covetor skill requirements,the biggest issue is the lack of interaction.All the player has to do is lock and fire up the lasers the rest you know.The truth is that it is boring.
I propose that mining is reworked to become more interactive,engaging and interesting.Making it require the player to do more things while mining will be a direct blow to macro miners thus increasing the income of real miners like myself.
Many suggestions have been made such as laser frequencies and multi ore asteroids and many others that would help with the issues described above.
I hope that you agree with me and that the newly elected CSM will bring up this issue to CCP.
Thank you very much for reading.
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Mikhem
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Posted - 2009.12.03 20:13:00 -
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Have you tried mining with battleship? I mined long time with maelstrom before I got skills for hulk. That takes reflexes to mine with battleship with 8xmining lasers but it gives good yield and only hulk or covetor can compete with it in yield. I mined to cans and used industrial ship with cargo expanders and cargorigs to empty those cans.
I got my cash for maelstrom when I mined long time with Scythe.
Try gas mining in wormhole space. Theres some true excitement. You need probe launcher and probes for that.
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Zahorite
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Posted - 2009.12.03 21:40:00 -
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I'm going to say no to this. I just don't like the idea of making it interactive. I have a mining alt and I use it either when I'm reading, studying for a class, or ratting/mission running on my main. Basically I'm not going to like anything that changes it so that I can't mine in Eve and do other things at the same time.
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2009.12.04 00:33:00 -
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I think that is one of the benefits of mining you can browse the web, corp chat, watch tv etc and of course dock at a moments notice if something comes up IRL. Making me do more for the same reward (makes no sense) if I want more interaction I'll run missions(make more isk), alternatively if mining bores you do it in low sec or 00 I doubt you'll find it lacks interaction.
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2009.12.04 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Bhattran I think that is one of the benefits of mining you can browse the web, corp chat, watch tv etc and of course dock at a moments notice if something comes up IRL. Making me do more for the same reward (makes no sense) if I want more interaction I'll run missions(make more isk), alternatively if mining bores you do it in low sec or 00 I doubt you'll find it lacks interaction.
Quoting for truth. Bored with mining in high-sec? Go to low-sec, that makes mining really exciting and interactive. However, I would like to see mining enhanced, but I'm not sure your idea is a great one.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.12.04 01:44:00 -
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i wait for comet and ring mining. they said it will be more challenging and interactive.
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Kelli Sunweaver
Minmatar United Minmatar Nation Industries Rising Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:19:00 -
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I run mining ops in all spaces of EVE high low and null ( when i can sneak in somewhere ) and I tell you the latter two are anything but dull. From the rats in battle ships to those players that love to gank barges there is always something to keep you on your toes. Plus mining in low or null sec requires alot of player interaction. IE a combat fitted squad for defense haulers to carry ore from the belt to a collection area and then the miners themselves. In addtion you need a scout thats cloaked when your mining in 0.0 in space thats not yours. Providence is the only acception to this if your a amarr lover. So I can't support your idea when all you need to do is get out of empire space and take the risk. This is EVE risk = reward.
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Samuel Cole
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.12.08 10:32:00 -
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I support this. CCP claims that mining is a full-fledged profession, akin to trade, exploration, or pvp, but everyone in this thread is claiming some variation of "I have my alt do it while I watch TV." Until we turn mining into an engaging activity, it will never rise above that.
Turning mining into a mini-game akin to Puzzle Pirates or something would go along way towards making mining an attractive profession.
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Villian
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Posted - 2009.12.08 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Samuel Cole Turning mining into a mini-game akin to Puzzle Pirates or something would go along way towards making mining an attractive profession.
That would be a good idea, if EVE were puzzle pirates. If you want to play puzzles so much, open your in game browser and play bejeweled while you mine. The players above and myself would rather just play EVE.
No change necessary.
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Mielono
Caldari SWARTA
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Posted - 2010.01.01 05:50:00 -
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As a miner I agree to some sort of change along these lines, mining should be interactive so that the people who do it as their full time occupation both get something to do and have the bots/afk miner competition removed.
I have noticed many of the people who say no to such suggestion follow their no with "I like to mine while I read talk etc"... For a full blown profession this should not be the case. I never hear anyone go, while I pvp I like to read, watch a movie, study.
I know it will receive alot of hate from people who either macro, alt, or only mine some of the time because they find it boring etc, but honestly removing these people from the pool of miners will do nothing but make our profession more profitable, more fun, and more necessary instead of a pass time.
In fact it may lead to there being more miners since it will not be looked down on as a boring profession.
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Bunyip
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.01.01 08:46:00 -
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I support this measure. While I am against pointless diversions, using veins of ore in a roid to increase yield sounds completely feasible. If you want AFK income, play some other game.
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Mielono
SWARTA
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Posted - 2010.01.01 23:21:00 -
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ohh yeah... supported
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.01.02 00:28:00 -
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If you think mining is boring and needs a more interactive boost, you should do something else in the game. Mining is boring, PVP is not, other things are somewhere inbetween, PVE/invention etc. There are plenty of things in EVE to do if you get bored or burnt out on something try something different, it isn't rocket science to change career paths if you don't like what you are doing.
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Mielono
Caldari SWARTA
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Posted - 2010.01.02 13:31:00 -
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Classic... If you think Mining is boring then you should pvp. Instead of actually throwing in some useful information or making a vote.
Mining is a profession, unless your a pirate PVP is a passtime or a necessity because of pirates.
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Aloriana Jacques
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2010.01.02 14:49:00 -
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They are actually looking into a new system for mining called planetary ring mining as well as comet mining. They talked about it last fanfest. Here were the highlights:
Planetary Ring Mining -Scan down veins of rare ore -New resources -More engaging and interactive -Rediscover that goldrush feeling -Player skill and intuition counts! (Which is bad news for the macro miners)
Comet Mining -Scan them down -Richer comets in W-Space -They contain organic compunds -Possibly alternative release valve to moon goo -Scoop up their ejaculate! - - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
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elimuhn8v2
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Posted - 2010.01.02 18:53:00 -
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I like the idea of interactive so i'll support it.
But i would like to see it this way:
You lock on to a roid and start your strip/mining laser.
A random mini (10 sec) "vein lock" game now starts, after the game is over the mining starts.
When the mining starts a new "vein yield" game starts, now you can choose to play this game for more yield (50-100%) Or go reading,watching tv,playing on 2nd account or keep an eye on local but not getting the extra yield.
This way: 1. macro mining becomes impossible. 2. all afk miners can stil do there thing. 3. active/main profession miners get more fun/yield/isk
This way everyone wins
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.01.02 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mielono Classic... If you think Mining is boring then you should pvp. Instead of actually throwing in some useful information or making a vote.
Mining is a profession, unless your a pirate PVP is a passtime or a necessity because of pirates.
Way to troll, because all the words strung together making sentences expressing thoughts in my post there just said 'go pvp' clever how I did that. The posts below yours actually address the issue as have other posts, including my original one. Fantastic that the only way to make the one thing you do, mine, 'fun' is to change it because it is so boring to you who loves it so much, 'I love you but can you stop being so much like...well you?'.
I have no problem if a solution to your and the op's problem is to make other ways of mining as a post under your comment mentions plans of CCP's or something similiar but as I originally stated making me do more 'work' for the same reward is stupid and not supported. When I read people talking about mini games and puzzles with mining I get these nasty thoughts about the intelligence of these people and feel they should quit eve and load up minesweeper or maybe just open a new window to do that. Somehow doing anything 'extra' that CCP doesn't make to entertain you while you do this boring thing you love is really wrong and if they came up with a way to entertain you more while you do the thing you love so much then it would be okay, sounds kind of silly to me.
To reiterate there are lots of things in EVE to do, if you find mining boring or tiresome etc TRY, TRY, TRY something ELSE, there are many other so called 'professions' that you can do, actually there are lots of activities but people like to call them professions for some reason.
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Comodore John
Gallente KILRATHI INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2010.01.03 00:21:00 -
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Mine ice, it's low interaction, decent income, and you can do many things while waiting for one cycle. |
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