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Malcolm Gyles
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Posted - 2009.12.09 14:30:00 -
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I was curious. What does everyone consider the LEAST popular race in EVE to play and why?
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Opportunity Costs
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.09 15:19:00 -
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Caldari is by far the most popular. Good backstory, caucasic looks, and military strenght (apparently), awesome for missions.
Gallente may be the next one. Interesting backstory, european looks, Dominix and drones ftw.
Amarr. Boring backstory [except if you are religion fervorous] old/ugly looks. Great for pvp however.
Minmatar I would say this is the least popular. Bad backstory [who wants to play the slave?], african looks, terrible missioning. But hey they got the Rifter and some hot chicks
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Daddy Worbucks
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Posted - 2009.12.09 15:19:00 -
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Historically, each race had an intricate toon creation than assigned in the area of 200k sp to various skills, as well as lend themselves to certain attribute distributions, and certain 3rd party programs could tell you exactly what race would save you the most time to a certain skill goal. Most of the lopsidedness of the current racial distribution is a legacy of this; most alts are industrial focused, the average player might spend most of his time using his pvp or mission toon, but could have two or more other toons dedicated to industrial/commercial skills; in the previous character creation system, caldari had an advantage in pursuing an industrial skill gosl, so most of the industrial alts over six months old or so were caldari.
Currently the the only significant advantage of one race over another is the rewards that can be had from FW; e.g. the anticipation, justified it would seem, was that the new Navy Domi would be a very hot item, so lots of Gallente were made to this end. Future faction items could have a similar effect in other directions, but the recent change in FW mission rejection restrictions is likely going to make this a much less attractive pursuit in future.
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Twelve Volts
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Posted - 2009.12.09 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Opportunity Costs african looks
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Opportunity Costs
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.09 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Twelve Volts
Originally by: Opportunity Costs african looks
not that I am racist or whatever, but most people want his toon to look like them on real life.
and most players are from EU/US thats why Caldari and Gallente are the most popular. Notice there's not much info on races when you first join the game.
ofcourse there are variations for bloodlines. In example Minmatar Vherokior looks somehow like native americans.
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Gieron
Middleton and Mercer LLP
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Posted - 2009.12.09 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Opportunity Costs ofcourse there are variations for bloodlines. In example Minmatar Vherokior looks somehow like native americans.
Vherokior, Achura, Khanid and Jin-Mei are actually a later addition to the game, added in Red Moon Rising. They were all added in order to have Asian bloodlines for all races.
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Laciter
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Posted - 2009.12.09 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Opportunity Costs
Originally by: Twelve Volts
Originally by: Opportunity Costs african looks
not that I am racist or whatever, but most people want his toon to look like them on real life.
and most players are from EU/US thats why Caldari and Gallente are the most popular. Notice there's not much info on races when you first join the game.
ofcourse there are variations for bloodlines. In example Minmatar Vherokior looks somehow like native americans.
Well, I'm not white, but besides that you're wrong. Caldari was the most popular because prior to remaps, someone figured out that Achura had the best possible attribute set for combat training. This was the case for several years. IMO, Amarr and Minmatar have the more interesting backstories. Also, you get these cool hoods if you're an Amarr. Minmatar are the ugliest, but cool if you like the tribal look. Gallente have the prettiest faces but the ugliest ships. Caldari just look meh, and their ships are bleh.
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Wayson
Minmatar Trans Nebula Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 18:43:00 -
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Minmatar get sunglasses. Honestly, what more do you need?
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2009.12.09 19:15:00 -
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With multiple accounts, I've got characters from all 4 factions, fairly evenly divided. Most of them are chicks. Some of the male characters in the game look cool but most of the chick characters look hot. A lot of the male characters are butt ugly. I have one character (not this one) whom I think of as "me". The rest are characters who work for "me". Ironically, I hardly ever play "me". *shrug*
My take on this is -
1) Unless things have changed - the numbers of characters are:
Caldari > Gallente > Minmatar > Amarr.
2) Now the reasons for that could vary. I'm sure that there isn't any one reason.
Caldari: a) + Achura min/max; b) + The Caldari have a reputation as the best Mission runners and most of the people who play this game are mission runners. c) Ships are neutral in appearance. Some are clunky looking but some are cool. d) Back story is neutral. For everyone who doesn't want to play the militarists - there's someone who does. I think that a lot of people don't pick Caldari as their first characters - but do pick them once they've played a while.
Gallente: a) + Back story. They are the freedom loving democracy. There are a lot of people who want to play "the good guys". I think a lot of people's first characters are Gallente. b) + Prior to the speed nerf - their blaster boats were very popular among PVP people. c) Ships appearance is neutral. Some are cool looking. Some are ugly. d) + Character appearance is mostly positive.
Minmatar: a) - Back Story again - most people don't want to play ex-slaves - this I think is the biggest factor in their lack of popularity. b) - Ships Appearance - they look like they are held together with duck tape and bailing wire. Balanced out somewhat by the popularity of the Rifter. The thing is - anyone can skill a Rifter in about 10 hours so I don't think that helps them that much. c) Character appearance is neutral. Some people think their black characters look cool. I've also got this Japanese/Indian guy ... That and they've got some hot chicks with platinum blonde hair. What more could you want? The real negative is the cone head guys ... (sorry Chirriba ...) though I've got one of them too ... .
Amarr: a) - Slave Owners. What more do I need to say? Being a Slave Owner in todays politically correct societies is worse than being an ex-slave. You have lots of gamers who don't mind being militarists - but not slavers. b) - Religious Fanatics. I didn't need to say more - but - here it is. The only thing nearly as unpopular as Slave Owners is - Religious Fanatics. You have lots of gamers who don't mind being militarists - but not religious fanatics. c) - Another factor is that before the speed nerf made them the FOTM they were seen as having crappy ships. Their ships are more popular now - but that doesn't mean squat. Anyone can train their ships - without having to be a Slave Owning Religious Fanatic.
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Vritri
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:38:00 -
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Well, when I made my character, I read about the backstory of each race.
I absolutely despised everything about the Amarr (For that reason, I will never fly an Amarrian ship, no matter how good they get, or join any corp that works with/in heavily amarr territory). They were a theocratic society (the worst thing for any society to be imo), they were religious nutjobs, they enslaved other races like they felt it was their god-given right. While I understand the society pretty well (that was a lot of cultures even until recent human history) I also hate it.
As a result, I was proud to roll a Minmatar, I loved being the ex-slave that broke free from the evil control of the Amarrians. It's a much more noble background story than any of the other races I feel. I mostly only fly Matari ships for the same reason (also, they are the best looking ships by far I think). Gallente is alright as well.
I'd like to say Amarr is the least popular race (not counting ships), but it's tough to say. It's probably still Minmatar, but that even makes sense story-wise to me. We're not supposed to be the most populous race.
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Laciter
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Vritri Well, when I made my character, I read about the backstory of each race.
I absolutely despised everything about the Amarr (For that reason, I will never fly an Amarrian ship, no matter how good they get, or join any corp that works with/in heavily amarr territory). They were a theocratic society (the worst thing for any society to be imo), they were religious nutjobs, they enslaved other races like they felt it was their god-given right. While I understand the society pretty well (that was a lot of cultures even until recent human history) I also hate it.
As a result, I was proud to roll a Minmatar, I loved being the ex-slave that broke free from the evil control of the Amarrians. It's a much more noble background story than any of the other races I feel. I mostly only fly Matari ships for the same reason (also, they are the best looking ships by far I think). Gallente is alright as well.
I'd like to say Amarr is the least popular race (not counting ships), but it's tough to say. It's probably still Minmatar, but that even makes sense story-wise to me. We're not supposed to be the most populous race.
My very first character was Minmatar for that same reason. I liked the idea of the ex-slave fighting against the big-bad evil empire. But, then you remember this is a game, and it's fun to play the big-bad guys. Amarr may be the least popular, but judging by the forum posts, cruelty, smugness and and a sense of superiority fit right in. Guess what faction fits that bill to the T? Also, remember that pod-pilots represent only a small fraction of the population of characters in the fictional New Eden.
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Lashnar
Caldari New Eden Recon Force Beyond-Control
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:15:00 -
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When I first did the trail I didn't understand a thing about EVE. Not sure which to go with. I picked Mimitar, I didn't get past the tutorial. I hated the ship. It looked like a skysc****r with engines. Then, i later picked Amarr. I loved their ships, I hated their looks. I then subscribe and picked Caldari...
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:16:00 -
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Popularity is Caldari>Gallente>Minmatar>Amarr.
As for personal taste:
Caldari: Boring race with plain/ugly looking people. The achura males look truly disgusting.
Gallente: Nice looking avatars, especially some of the females. The only race that looks like they might actually be from the future and I really like the hedonistic feel and organic design they use.
Amarr: An interesting race. Holy crusaders who purify the galaxy with their lazors, what more could you want? I don't like how the males look, but some nice female avatars.
Minmatar: Personal favorite and the second interesting race in the game with interesting and good looking ships. Nice selection of avatars and good looking females. The males are ugly, but in a exaggerated manly way.
Looks and backstory are the only reasons that should matter when selecting a race now, so I only commented on them.
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Malaclypse Muscaria
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:22:00 -
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The least popular EVE race of all time was hands down the Mhuckus, a race of space amoebas with a penchant for rampant inbreeding, congenic polio as a result of that, and whose main ambition and understanding of a fulfilling well-rounded life was to become a proctologist for the aging members of the Amarr Royal Family. It was removed on EVE's first expansion due to lack of player interest.
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Malcolm Gyles
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:44:00 -
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I noticed Vritri earlier referred to reading about the racial backstories. Is there more info out there than besides what's in the character creator intro? If so, where can I find it? Also, thanks all for the interesting responses.
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Bonzair
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Posted - 2009.12.09 22:19:00 -
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Backstories
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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.12.10 00:20:00 -
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Amarr are (were) the least popular, which is interesting because their ships were until recently, and maybe still are, the "flavor of the month" (FOTM). Certainly for PVP their battleships and capitals are hard to beat. So, while there may have been fewer Amarr characters there were certainly a lot of people flying Amarr ships.
Caldari are the most common for a number of reasons, in particular that the Raven and Drake are the kings of mission-running ships. But I also think Caldari and Gallente have an advantage in that their characters look less like cartoon charicatures than the Amarr and Minmatar do.
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Ladani
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Posted - 2009.12.10 00:58:00 -
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According to inEVE when it used to be working Amarr was least popular race. For those of you who don't know what inEVE is it was a website where you could upload your character sheet. For each race about 25% of character is female and 75% of characters is male. Both Caldari and Gallente character were like 30-38% of total, Amarr and Minmatar was less than 20% with Amarr being something like 13-15% of total chars.
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Horatius Caul
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.10 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Opportunity Costs
Amarr. Boring backstory [except if you are religion fervorous]
I'm not a religious zealot, my character is. That is what roleplaying means.
Amarr has a very rich background, lots of details on society and several interesting factions. -----
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Yarinor
Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.10 09:56:00 -
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Interesting to see how a lot of people put RP reasons into this.
My first character was Amarr, I looked at the different races weapons and was like "lasers **** yea!". Played the game for a few weeks and ended up making an Achura for the minmax after finding out how ******edly overpowered their attributes were.
This toon I made out of "nostalgic reasons" this was my industry alt, and prior to apocrypha a lot of industrialists picked intaki simply for the high int/mem and low perc/will.
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Kaldor Mintat
Nomads Of Eve
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Posted - 2009.12.10 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Yarinor Interesting to see how a lot of people put RP reasons into this.
My first character was Amarr, I looked at the different races weapons and was like "lasers **** yea!". Played the game for a few weeks and ended up making an Achura for the minmax after finding out how ******edly overpowered their attributes were.
This toon I made out of "nostalgic reasons" this was my industry alt, and prior to apocrypha a lot of industrialists picked intaki simply for the high int/mem and low perc/will.
Well, while roleplaying and immersion always played a part for some in which race to choose nowadays its in fact the only real reason for choosing a specific race. well that and avatar looks.
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Boink'urr
Minmatar Wasserette De Tarthorst
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Posted - 2009.12.10 13:52:00 -
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I picked Minmatar because of the backstory and well.. what pilot goes without pilot sunglasses anyway.
I love the ex-slave background, hate and yet love Amarr, their ships are the coolest their station muzak far out the best, and you can make them look like ebil priests. I have no respect for Caldari, man they is some ugle motherrukkers! I wouldn't touch their women with a 20 inch pole D:
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Kaldor Mintat
Nomads Of Eve
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Posted - 2009.12.10 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Malcolm Gyles I noticed Vritri earlier referred to reading about the racial backstories. Is there more info out there than besides what's in the character creator intro? If so, where can I find it? Also, thanks all for the interesting responses.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1107740
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Category:History
There is plenty more out there if you look around abit although the amount of material available is wildly different in scoope between the races as such.
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Varus Kessler
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Posted - 2009.12.11 02:20:00 -
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I'm rolling Amarr. Why?
The Omen looks like a Romulan bird of prey. Nuff said.
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Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.12.11 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Opportunity Costs
Amarr. Boring backstory [except if you are religion fervorous] old/ugly looks. Great for pvp however.
I'm ugly? awwww.
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Kessiaan
Minmatar Aitvaras Strategic Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.11 04:04:00 -
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My race is Minmatar, but I consider myself Gallente.
Haven't done anything in Matari space since my early early days, like 2 years ago.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2009.12.11 06:10:00 -
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As noted, a lot of people mention some RP stuff in their decisions. I don't know how many actually maintain their RP in the game though.
I think what happens is - when you start the game - the very first thing you do before anything else - is pick your character. At that point - you've NOTHING to go on but back story - unless this isn't your first character.
Thus, even though most of us aren't really role playing once we get into the game those back stories initially count for a lot.
Once I got into the game - I wanted to experience all the factions - so I made characters from them all. At that point - I'd long given up on role playing anything. There were little things I'd thought of, little personal back stories I'd casually made up about some of my characters but ... not something I bothered to put in their bios. Mostly ... I was to wrapped up in trying to make some ISK to be further bothered with role playing the game and my little dashes of RP, while still existing in the form of character names and such ... wasn't something I'd thought much about since character creation.
*shrug*
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Rorin Cutter
Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.11 08:02:00 -
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Humm, not only Amarrian char's are Holders:-)
But of course I treat my slaves well, so no worries there:-)
In my opinion RP is very important, EvE would be a dull game without it. I think if you play the game right, all races have pro's and con's.
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Rache Bartmoss
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.11 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Boink'urr I picked Minmatar because of the backstory and well.. what pilot goes without pilot sunglasses anyway.
I love the ex-slave background, hate and yet love Amarr, their ships are the coolest their station muzak far out the best, and you can make them look like ebil priests. I have no respect for Caldari, man they is some ugle motherrukkers! I wouldn't touch their women with a 20 inch pole D:
Thank you for the compliment, my dear.
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Agent Known
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Posted - 2009.12.11 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue The achura males look truly disgusting.
On another note, I also have an annoying sig.
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