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001100110011
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:43:00 -
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So i am sitting on a station in low sec and decide to lol rep a fleet mate, and i suddently get blasted by the station guns cause he is -65,000.3.
so being in a tanky ship i decide to wait out the 14 minutes or so repping myself.
14 minutes go by... still being shot at.
20 minutes go by... still being shot at.
30 minutes go by... still being shot at.
40 minutes go by... still being shot at.
Redock and undock immediately, i get shot at.
I think if i stayed here i would get shot at until DT again.
Does CCP hate crim reppers that much? |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
634
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:46:00 -
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001100110011 wrote:So i am sitting on a station in low sec and decide to lol rep a fleet mate, and i suddently get blasted by the station guns cause he is -65,000.3.
so being in a tanky ship i decide to wait out the 14 minutes or so repping myself.
14 minutes go by... still being shot at.
20 minutes go by... still being shot at.
30 minutes go by... still being shot at.
40 minutes go by... still being shot at.
Redock and undock immediately, i get shot at.
I think if i stayed here i would get shot at until DT again.
Does CCP hate crim reppers that much?
There have been several other posts about this as well. Seek and ye shall find.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:47:00 -
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Newbie here, but my understanding is that when you repair a criminal you get flagged yourself, so you became a criminal, too.
When you started to repair yourself the timer was always reset, because (see above), you repaired a criminal (no matter if this is a corps mate or yourself).
You would have to wait 15 min in station to reset the timer.
As said, that's newbie's 2 cent. ;) |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
384
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:53:00 -
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Your engagement never ended, as long as you sit on station getting fired at the timer will never start counting down. OR should I say every time they fire at you the timer is reset.
EVERYBODY KNOWS |
Nyreanya
Serenity Labs New Eden Research.
191
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Posted - 2012.06.19 13:02:00 -
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Is it that hard to look at the timer in the upper left? Or does the eye-patch get in the way? Not everyone thinks the same way you do. This doesn't automatically make them wrong. |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
566
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Posted - 2012.06.19 13:04:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Your engagement never ended, as long as you sit on station getting fired at the timer will never start counting down. OR should I say every time they fire at you the timer is reset.
^ that. :) Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
545
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Posted - 2012.06.19 13:14:00 -
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Every time the stationary guns shoot at you, the timer is reset.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3820
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Posted - 2012.06.19 13:23:00 -
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MANDATORY!
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.06.19 13:34:00 -
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Seems like this never gets too old. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1996
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Posted - 2012.06.19 13:54:00 -
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L34RN 2 4GGR0 M3CH4N1C5 This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2012.06.19 13:56:00 -
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yeah, timer STARTS when you are LAST SEEN by guns or police
if you never leave their sight your timer never starts counting down
this catches a lot of people who get GCCd and go to a safe to wait out their station lockout timer after 2 minutes or so they dock up with a visible13 minute timer, problem is its back to 15 minutes because the station guns saw you but the timer never reflects extensions of existing GCC only new GCC The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
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Posted - 2012.06.19 14:00:00 -
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think of it as you are being charged with Aiding a criminal only in the EVE setting this results in ED-209 style justice instead of an arrest. |
Savage Angel
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.19 14:50:00 -
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Ever play Grand Theft Auto? Same deal as with 1 star in that game. Ya gotta be out of site from the cops for the countdown. |
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
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Posted - 2012.06.19 20:35:00 -
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Savage Angel wrote:Ever play Grand Theft Auto? Same deal as with 1 star in that game. Ya gotta be out of site from the cops for the countdown.
Grand Theft Starship: New Eden.
;) |
IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.19 20:55:00 -
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Viktor Fyretracker wrote:think of it as you are being charged with Aiding a criminal only in the EVE setting this results in ED-209 style justice instead of an arrest.
YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS TO COMPLY.
A robo-cop reference.... THIS is why I come to the Forums....
'perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim'
Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.
~I fly spaceships~ |
001100110011
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.19 22:26:00 -
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The funny thing was though is that the GCC counted down to 0 and was replaced with an agression timer that stuck on 14 minutes |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
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Posted - 2012.06.19 22:38:00 -
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001100110011 wrote:The funny thing was though is that the GCC counted down to 0 and was replaced with an agression timer that stuck on 14 minutes This is because the GCC only applies to concord or faction police (afaik) which can only be extended in HS. Or, the GCC reset was invisable.
The aggro timer was because you were being shot at. Every time you got shot at, it reset to 14:59. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1533
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Posted - 2012.06.19 22:45:00 -
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ignore the timer, it lies
it will count down to 0 and the invisible timer will keep counting yes it sucks, but if you know about it you can adjust accordingly
even if you do everything quickly and by the book it still fails
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2012.06.19 22:50:00 -
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001100110011 wrote:So i am sitting on a station in low sec and decide to lol rep a fleet mate, and i suddently get blasted by the station guns cause he is -65,000.3.
so being in a tanky ship i decide to wait out the 14 minutes or so repping myself.
14 minutes go by... still being shot at.
20 minutes go by... still being shot at.
30 minutes go by... still being shot at.
40 minutes go by... still being shot at.
Redock and undock immediately, i get shot at.
I think if i stayed here i would get shot at until DT again.
Does CCP hate crim reppers that much?
No - they just hate you. You need to log off/log on.
-á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |
001100110011
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.19 23:00:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:001100110011 wrote:So i am sitting on a station in low sec and decide to lol rep a fleet mate, and i suddently get blasted by the station guns cause he is -65,000.3.
so being in a tanky ship i decide to wait out the 14 minutes or so repping myself.
14 minutes go by... still being shot at.
20 minutes go by... still being shot at.
30 minutes go by... still being shot at.
40 minutes go by... still being shot at.
Redock and undock immediately, i get shot at.
I think if i stayed here i would get shot at until DT again.
Does CCP hate crim reppers that much? No - they just hate you. You need to log off/log on.
-.-
Thanks all, it was in a carrier so no harm done at all anyway :) Thought it was pretty funny tanking their guns for an hour or so while they pecked away at me... |
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Daemon Ceed
Jihad Squad from Riyadh Reckless Ambition
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Posted - 2012.06.19 23:06:00 -
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Yarg! The guns still be pounding me hull like the bare bottom of a drunken sorority girl! Yarg! Post with your main or GTFO! The Sandbox = Play however the hell you want. |
Soldarius
TreadStone Standard The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.06.19 23:36:00 -
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001100110011 wrote:Thanks all, it was in a carrier so no harm done at all anyway :) Thought it was pretty funny tanking their guns for an hour or so while they pecked away at me...
That is not CONCORDOKKEN. If it were, your shiny carrier would have been popped within seconds. Which reminds me, no carriers in hisec, and thus there is no way you can make that happen, unless you are a very old player and happen to still have one in hisec from before CCP made it impossible to build or bring one in. There is no CONCORD in losec.
btw, if you are dumb enough to sit on a station in your carrier for an hour with aggro, you should give me all your stuff and then unsub. The sad thing is that no one came along and noticing that you couldn't play docking games, killed you. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |
001100110011
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.19 23:46:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:001100110011 wrote:Thanks all, it was in a carrier so no harm done at all anyway :) Thought it was pretty funny tanking their guns for an hour or so while they pecked away at me... That is not CONCORDOKKEN. If it were, your shiny carrier would have been popped within seconds. Which reminds me, no carriers in hisec, and thus there is no way you can make that happen, unless you are a very old player and happen to still have one in hisec from before CCP made it impossible to build or bring one in. There is no CONCORD in losec. btw, if you are dumb enough to sit on a station in your carrier for an hour with aggro, you should give me all your stuff and then unsub. The sad thing is that no one came along and noticing that you couldn't play docking games, killed you.
Oh there were some neuts around, one even warped in, but the sight of my carrier (and 50 other caps) sorta disuaded the guy from doing much |
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2012.06.20 01:17:00 -
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001100110011 wrote:The funny thing was though is that the GCC counted down to 0 and was replaced with an agression timer that stuck on 14 minutes
GCC is not the same as aggression. Once GCC expires you can make trails through high sec with the faction police shooting at you at every gate :-)
EDIT: but not in a carrier obviously.
Seriously, a carrier, and you don't know aggression mechanics? |
001100110011
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.20 01:43:00 -
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Anya Ohaya wrote:001100110011 wrote:The funny thing was though is that the GCC counted down to 0 and was replaced with an agression timer that stuck on 14 minutes GCC is not the same as aggression. Once GCC expires you can make trails through high sec with the faction police shooting at you at every gate :-) EDIT: but not in a carrier obviously. Seriously, a carrier, and you don't know aggression mechanics?
Yes i am aware of how aggression etc work, what i was not aware of was the fact gate/station guns can shoot you till DT for repping a crim for 1 rep or more
I thought 14 minutes of continuous fire would have sufficed, but no. Anything less than a BS would have a) died b) warped off c) docked. So shooting for more than 14 minutes max seems pretty lol |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
673
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Posted - 2012.06.20 02:24:00 -
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Why do people in lowsec not have the faintest idea how aggression works? It's not complicated at all. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1536
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Posted - 2012.06.20 03:03:00 -
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001100110011 wrote:Anya Ohaya wrote:001100110011 wrote:The funny thing was though is that the GCC counted down to 0 and was replaced with an agression timer that stuck on 14 minutes GCC is not the same as aggression. Once GCC expires you can make trails through high sec with the faction police shooting at you at every gate :-) EDIT: but not in a carrier obviously. Seriously, a carrier, and you don't know aggression mechanics? Yes i am aware of how aggression etc work, what i was not aware of was the fact gate/station guns can shoot you till DT for repping a crim for 1 rep or more
yeah... I only shot that hulk a little...
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
001100110011
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.20 03:08:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Why do people in lowsec not have the faintest idea how aggression works? It's not complicated at all.
Why do people on forums not have the faintest idea of how 'out of context' works? |
Crunchie Attuxors
Always Another Corporate Venture
18
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Posted - 2012.06.20 03:13:00 -
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001100110011 wrote:Anya Ohaya wrote:001100110011 wrote:The funny thing was though is that the GCC counted down to 0 and was replaced with an agression timer that stuck on 14 minutes GCC is not the same as aggression. Once GCC expires you can make trails through high sec with the faction police shooting at you at every gate :-) EDIT: but not in a carrier obviously. Seriously, a carrier, and you don't know aggression mechanics? Yes i am aware of how aggression etc work, what i was not aware of was the fact gate/station guns can shoot you till DT for repping a crim for 1 rep or more I thought 14 minutes of continuous fire would have sufficed, but no. Anything less than a BS would have a) died b) warped off c) docked. So shooting for more than 14 minutes max seems pretty lol
Someone already told you. Your self-repair constantly reset the aggression timer. When you get flagged, you either dock for 15 minutes to cool down or go and kill rats out in the belts until the timer resets without repping yourself. Eve forums official anthem:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pudOFG5X6uA |
Crunchie Attuxors
Always Another Corporate Venture
18
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Posted - 2012.06.20 03:16:00 -
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Crunchie Attuxors wrote:
Someone already told you. Your self-repair constantly reset the aggression timer. When you get flagged, you either dock for 15 minutes to cool down or go and kill rats out in the belts until the timer resets without repping yourself.
In other words, the timer is not there for show. Eve forums official anthem:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pudOFG5X6uA |
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