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Don Pellegrino
Helljumpers Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:29:00 -
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You would be surprised to know how many pvp corps don't mind to recruit low SP players as long as they have the right attitude and are wanting to learn. Pvp will destroy your wallet, but if you can run missions you should be fine. Your corp will thank you for getting free targets (getting wardecked = more things to shoot) and you will have the most fun you ever had in eve.
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Selrid Miamarr
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.12.18 18:35:00 -
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Windjammer:
I think you misunderstand slightly. I would have no problem dealing with these griefers should they happen to arise, and can flippers can't do anything when you simply stop using a jetcan. It's not hard to deny a griefer their fun.
I don't see how people see dealing with them is anything but an annoyance on the level of an ISK spammer. It's not so much the practical aspect of dealing with them, but how people think dealing with them has upsides or positives, and is a good part of the EVE universe.
Don Pellegrino:
I have yet to see this. The ones that do tend to be 12 man or under corps, which means you are lucky to have 3 people on when you log in. The more professional ones seem to want 10 mil SP+.
Still, it is not much of a solution. I can't see joining a pvp corp solely to avoid a wardec, because eventually you would have to pvp. If you wished to do this frequently, you would not mind the wardec the op states in the first place, or be in a very small corp vulnerable to it.
As for the fun, well that is another aspect I am trying to understand. From the limited experience I have had in militia, fun is not valued much in PVP; else why would all engagements tend to focus on camping gates with larger fleets or picking off stragglers? You cannot have fun if you are able to be destroyed in seconds by a concerted effort. It can be meaningful maybe, but I'd hardly call that fun.
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Windjammer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.18 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Selrid Miamarr Windjammer:
I think you misunderstand slightly. I would have no problem dealing with these griefers should they happen to arise, and can flippers can't do anything when you simply stop using a jetcan. It's not hard to deny a griefer their fun.
I don't see how people see dealing with them is anything but an annoyance on the level of an ISK spammer. It's not so much the practical aspect of dealing with them, but how people think dealing with them has upsides or positives, and is a good part of the EVE universe.
I do understand your point of view. My point was this: EVE is what it is and if you're going to be handed grief from griefers, the way to turn that into a postive is to turn the tables on them and cause them grief.
They do not do what they do for money. Case in point, the OP. How much could a new player, on average, give them to pay them off? No, not for isk, they do it for the pleasure of making someone squeak. That means it's important to them. Thus when they themselves are made to squeak it is most irksome to them. My pleasure is derived from harvesting the tears of those who love to cause tears in others. To me that's a positive.
The new 11% tax on NPC corps means little. However, it is irritating for a company that takes subscriber money to attempt to drive those subscribers to do something the subscribers do not want to do. This whole "join player corps to help form EVE" is just so much warm, fuzzy, bull plop to me. If it becomes ittitating enough, I'll simply do what many will. Take my subscriber money and spend it on a game where those who control the content of the game are ready for the world stage.
Windjammer
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Nico13
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.18 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Benedict Carol Size doesn't matter, tactics do.
TBH that's just what chicks tell guys with small tactics  _____________________________________
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Hanso Sparxx
Order of Shadows
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Posted - 2009.12.18 21:41:00 -
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Maybe you're just not sniveling enough? You do seem to have the lack of dignity down though. ------------------ Go Deep! |

Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.18 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Hanso Sparxx Maybe you're just not sniveling enough? You do seem to have the lack of dignity down though.
Want me to wardec you? ___________________________________________________ Idea: Train 3 alts at the same time solution. |

Dian'h Might
Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.12.18 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
That's the thing...I dont chat in game. I dont know anyone. 
There's part of the problem right there, a lot of people feel they're doing eve a service by provoking people like you into playing eve like it's an MMO.
As for your comments about corp size, a large corp is actually a wardec magnet in my experience. Assuming a small corp that gets decced actually stays active (most don't), they usually all communicate with each other, and the ones who don't will quickly leave due to losses. It's also much easier to go corphopping with a small corp, which makes them a less than preferable target.
A large corp however, will almost always have lone members or small cliques that never communicate with the main corp and don't even realize they're at war until they loose their autopiloting CNR. The loss of those members also doesn't have as big an impact on target selection. Generally a large corp will have a larger pool to draw isk from to pay a ransom, and also won't be as likely to disband and reform to avoid the dec.
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Moya81
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Posted - 2009.12.19 02:19:00 -
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Edited by: Moya81 on 19/12/2009 02:19:59
Originally by: Benedict Carol
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Professor Tarantula It's allowed.
Things like that are why i post on this guy instead of my main.
Plan B: dont type or post smack or other stupidity that will get you wardecced.
I only ever post on this, my main. And I post a lot. Never been wardecced for something I've posted or said in local, and I'm pretty sure that this is not because of my fearsome notorious terrifying PvP prowess.
OK, I just looked you up and you have 207 members in your corp. Naturally you are not an easy target. I have 3 members in my corp = easy target.
Only if you make yourself an easy target. Size doesn't matter, tactics do.
That's what she keeps telling me, but I still find it hard to believe 
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Windjammer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.19 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dian'h Might
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
That's the thing...I dont chat in game. I dont know anyone. 
There's part of the problem right there, a lot of people feel they're doing eve a service by provoking people like you into playing eve like it's an MMO.
As for your comments about corp size, a large corp is actually a wardec magnet in my experience. Assuming a small corp that gets decced actually stays active (most don't), they usually all communicate with each other, and the ones who don't will quickly leave due to losses. It's also much easier to go corphopping with a small corp, which makes them a less than preferable target.
A large corp however, will almost always have lone members or small cliques that never communicate with the main corp and don't even realize they're at war until they loose their autopiloting CNR. The loss of those members also doesn't have as big an impact on target selection. Generally a large corp will have a larger pool to draw isk from to pay a ransom, and also won't be as likely to disband and reform to avoid the dec.
Please. They could care less about doing EVE a service. They do it for yucks.
How the heck can you be a member of a corp and not know you're at war? Massive doses of sleeping pills?
Any corp I'm a member of that pays a ransom is not a corp I wish to be in. HERE the war decer might be doing me an inadvertant favor. Showing me the gutless wonders I'd rather be distant from than in the same corp with.
Windjammer
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