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Anslo
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.12.19 16:12:00 -
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Admit it, we may be the most powerful force in the known universe but even OUR minds are susceptible to wild imaginations correct? Or perhaps I am alone on this and my years are beginning to catch up with me... Needless to say, I was wondering if any of my fellow pilots might be interested in a little conspiracy talk? In the past years we've had Noir running his Nyx into a station, the Minmatar elders coming out of nowhere to save the day (in a sense), Sarum herself coming from the deepest parts of space with a TERRAN weapon with her to wipe out said elder fleet, we've had random wormholes opening up leading us to space where a once extinct ancient race is now living, and from what I have heard, the EVE gate is beginning to react to some of these events in New Eden! Ancient races, sentient wormholes, maddened political figures and terran weaponry thought long gone. What do you all think of it? Where is our universe heading?
I for one am interest to see where this leads...interested and honestly frightened.
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Sinjin Mokk
Amarr Immortalis Licentia
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Posted - 2009.12.19 16:35:00 -
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Good.
You should be afraid.
Consider if you will, the drones. Note how they seem to grow logrithmically in power, strength and intelligence. Ask yourself how long it will take them to outgrow abandoned stations and asteroids and start looking at moons and planets? Consider the consequences in another direction too. How long until they start to colonize people?
Or maybe that's already happened?
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2009.12.19 16:56:00 -
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Hm. If they grow logarithmically there is nothing to fear. I would start to worry if something is starting to grow exponential. But there is just one thing in this universe that has exponential growth. And that are principal and interest. Means there is nothing growing faster than this. So the whole system of money has nothing to do with the world we live in. The whole system of money is just exploitation until nothing is left.
If you ask me what to fight, some imaginary invasions of outer space or the evil Empire next door, I think it's more productive to fight the evils that are.
Principal and interest. That's real alien. It has nothing to do with natural growth. Natural growth is always stopped by competition. Money is stopped by nothing.
Maybe a revolution. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Kyraella Myshtana
Intaki Resistance Organization
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Posted - 2009.12.19 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sinjin Mokk How long until they start to colonize people?
Or maybe that's already happened?
I have heard such reports, though I hesitate to believe them. It seems fantastical at best. Of course, were it true, one wonders to what end they might seek to do so.
Personally, I am more troubled by reports of small-scale, single-use isogenous weapons. I have already had to speak harshly to some scientists who were pondering research along that path. Having such devices on board capital titans is bad enough. The thought of such terrors being detonated in the holds of cargo ships should alarm anyone. We should seek a binding treaty to prevent the spread and use of isogenous weapons.
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Veshta Yoshida
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: Veshta Yoshida on 19/12/2009 19:34:13
Originally by: Alica Wildfire ...If you ask me what to fight, some imaginary invasions of outer space or the evil Empire next door, I think it's more productive to fight the evils that are.
Principal and interest. That's real alien. It has nothing to do with natural growth. Natural growth is always stopped by competition. Money is stopped by nothing.
Maybe a revolution.
As long as you have an antagonist to lash out at to justify your chosen path what does it matter where it is or what it is called?
Evil has never been without, but always within. Seek out the demons inside yourself and start down the path to salvation and true peace. War and revolution benefits no one except the arms manufacturers and results are always temporary. Any lasting tranquillity can only come from mutual understanding or genocide .. I know which one I prefer.
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Aphoxakhan
The Operation Inertia
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Posted - 2009.12.19 21:44:00 -
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Obviously the most accomplished conspiracy in the known universe lies in plain site and refuses to hide itself. Ask yourselves, who has the power to force downgrades on our vessels at a moments notice? Who restricts and very effectively enforces limitations on cloning, even in the deepest reaches of "lawless" space? Who has the incredible power to annihilate your vessel and murder your crew without check or reparation, even when it's a battleship attacking a shuttle whose only crew is the capsuleer safely embedded inside?
We're only their blood, acting by their necessity but entirely replaceable. Only if all capsuleers were to rebel against CONCORD could we ever hope to take control of our own lives, but the prospect is hilarity itself. ---------------------
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Sinjin Mokk
Amarr Immortalis Licentia
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Posted - 2009.12.20 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Alica Wildfire Hm. If they grow logarithmically there is nothing to fear. I would start to worry if something is starting to grow exponential...
And thatÆs the trouble.
Non-human intelligence, like these drones poses a threat to us as a species. Exponentially, we see a rapid rise, yes. Put chip in a refresher on logarithms. (1, 10, 100, 1000) specifically a Malthusian Growth Model.
This is only theory, and IÆm basing it on the limited data that I and my people have been able to gather over a few months, but according to our figures, we can expect the drone threat to grow to an uncontrollable point in as little as 100 years! Considering the average human lifespan, that leaves the next generation in the position of possible being the last. And out own longevity means that we may well be there to see it happen!
So we have one danger right there. Many agree on the potential threat, but so many more seem to want to ignore it until it is in their gunsights. Why is that?
And there are other threats. Thukkers, Jovian influence, corrupt republics selling their people out to support piracy, free-thinkers. I could go on.
But weÆre not talking just drones, what other conspiracies did you have in mind Anslo?
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