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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1440
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Posted - 2012.06.20 19:18:00 -
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What,no! My main can't post on forums... |
Zyress
The Fabulous Thunderbirds
105
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Posted - 2012.06.20 19:36:00 -
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I've no problem with this if they refund the skillpoints I've put into my alt to my main. I don't use them both at the same time anyway and if one could do both jobs I can deal with that. Otherwise no, i've spent subscription money accumulating those skillpoints into that character. |
Captain' Jack Sparrow
184
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Posted - 2012.06.20 19:44:00 -
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Pinstar Colton wrote:In lieu of alts, (If you don't want to make several accounts) make friends.
Difficult, more work and more risk in a game like EVE, true, but working with friends doesn't divide up your attention the way working with alt accounts can (depending on how many different accounts and what the activity in question is).
Not to mention, its much cheaper.
There's a different website for that: http://www.facebook.com/
This is EVE Online |
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
117
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Posted - 2012.06.20 19:56:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I propose the following!
*Unzips pants*
Now my colleagues at work are wondering why I am laughing so loud. |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
567
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Posted - 2012.06.20 20:06:00 -
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Poasting in a alt thread of love Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1089
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Posted - 2012.06.20 21:04:00 -
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Zyress wrote:I've no problem with this if they refund the skillpoints I've put into my alt to my main. I don't use them both at the same time anyway and if one could do both jobs I can deal with that. Otherwise no, i've spent subscription money accumulating those skillpoints into that character. :( Love to have alts Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1791
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Posted - 2012.06.20 21:58:00 -
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Terrible idea for so many reasons I won't start naming them, for fear that I won't be able to stop. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
425
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Posted - 2012.06.20 22:40:00 -
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Johnny Augustus wrote:I love the irony of a an alt posting this topic. =p
Assuming this is serious, I don't see this happening. It would completely destroy the ability to buy and sell characters.
^^That^^ especially the first sentence.
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In irae, veritas. |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
122
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Posted - 2012.06.20 22:41:00 -
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Completely disagree with this, for so many reasons.
I personally use all the characters on all my accounts, ever since PI was introduced.
Though i am personally against the sort of things that nasty people sometimes use alts for, such as ganking, scamming etc, i think your solution is a bit extreme. You'd need to think of something more specific to solve the problem, rather than changing the game to such a massive degree. How about a 3 month delay after a character is deleted? Or better yet, something else. |
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.06.20 23:01:00 -
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Amarr Hair Dud wrote:The ability to create several characters on a single account dates back to whenever and the purpose was always to allow one player to have several characters of different classes
Ignorant troll detected.
As someone who followed this game before beta there were never true classes. Eve was modeled in part after UO. Also they decided every account would have 3 chars before release, not whenever. I know because I was in open beta and it had 3 character slots and the same classless system. The purpose of hi sec isn't to eliminate PvP but to weed out the dumb pvpers. |
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Trollin
Drunken Traders
98
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Posted - 2012.06.20 23:31:00 -
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BECAUSE OF ALTS We are our own worst enemy. |
Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
143
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Posted - 2012.06.20 23:34:00 -
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Amarr Haircare Products wrote:...With game mechanics so heavily supporting single character play....
Assuming you don't ever leave high sec
I'm an American, English is my second language... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1090
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Posted - 2012.06.21 01:04:00 -
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Bootleg Jack wrote:Amarr Haircare Products wrote:...With game mechanics so heavily supporting single character play.... Assuming you don't ever leave high sec Guess you've never heard of the glories of multiboxing. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Tanae Avalhar
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.06.21 01:07:00 -
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Amarr Haircare Products wrote:wrote lots of pointless garbage
you are a muppet
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2012
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Posted - 2012.06.21 01:46:00 -
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Captain' Jack Sparrow wrote:Pinstar Colton wrote:In lieu of alts, (If you don't want to make several accounts) make friends.
Difficult, more work and more risk in a game like EVE, true, but working with friends doesn't divide up your attention the way working with alt accounts can (depending on how many different accounts and what the activity in question is).
Not to mention, its much cheaper. There's a different website for that: http://www.facebook.com/This is EVE Online
I have a friend who had Facebook alts for Facebook games... This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
832
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Posted - 2012.06.21 01:55:00 -
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Linna Excel wrote:Amarr Hair Dud wrote:The ability to create several characters on a single account dates back to whenever and the purpose was always to allow one player to have several characters of different classes Ignorant troll detected. As someone who followed this game before beta there were never true classes. Eve was modeled in part after UO. Also they decided every account would have 3 chars before release, not whenever. I know because I was in open beta and it had 3 character slots and the same classless system. You should probably have read a little further. You woudl have realized he was referring to other games. Not EVE.
Anyway, bad idea. I don't want to pay 15 a month for my alt who's only purpose is to be available in case my corpies get podded out of our WH. He sits there doing nothing except looking pretty in the select screen. Less than a million SP. |
Crunchie Attuxors
Always Another Corporate Venture
23
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Posted - 2012.06.21 02:35:00 -
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To all the nay sayers in this thread:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=123540
See?
There are people who actually advocate this idea.
For what I have to say about it, read in the link. Eve forums official anthem:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pudOFG5X6uA |
Crunchie Attuxors
Always Another Corporate Venture
23
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Posted - 2012.06.21 02:39:00 -
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Halete wrote: Again, note that I don't multi-box and your proposed changes to alt accounts wouldn't effect me.
Yeah, sure. We believe you. No one posts in forums using alts. Unheard of! Eve forums official anthem:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pudOFG5X6uA |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1090
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Posted - 2012.06.21 02:50:00 -
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Crunchie Attuxors wrote:Halete wrote: Again, note that I don't multi-box and your proposed changes to alt accounts wouldn't effect me. Yeah, sure. We believe you. No one posts in forums using alts. Unheard of! Forums alts, hauler alts and all kinds of alts are the way of the FUTURE ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Crunchie Attuxors
Always Another Corporate Venture
23
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Posted - 2012.06.21 03:06:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Crunchie Attuxors wrote:Halete wrote: Again, note that I don't multi-box and your proposed changes to alt accounts wouldn't effect me. Yeah, sure. We believe you. No one posts in forums using alts. Unheard of! Forums alts, hauler alts and all kinds of alts are the way of the FUTURE !
And of the past, too... Eve forums official anthem:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pudOFG5X6uA |
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2015
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Posted - 2012.06.21 04:02:00 -
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Crunchie Attuxors wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Crunchie Attuxors wrote:Halete wrote: Again, note that I don't multi-box and your proposed changes to alt accounts wouldn't effect me. Yeah, sure. We believe you. No one posts in forums using alts. Unheard of! Forums alts, hauler alts and all kinds of alts are the way of the FUTURE ! And of the past, too... And the perfect. And the pluperfect. And the future perfect. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Aooz
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.06.21 11:29:00 -
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Alts and alt paranoia are so rife it's game breaking and immersion breaking in my opinion. Try having a conversation about EVE or in EVE without the word "alt" coming up. You're always assumed to be an alt, many times for all practical measure you might as well be an alt.
No one trusts anyone and that might be a cool part of the game if their were vast spy networks involving hundreds of people, but nope it's really just the threat of some nerd with too much time on his hands and an alt account. The lack of trust goes so deep that you quickly find you aren't able to trust anyone with anything as they could be anyone.
I don't think it's great either when you do get an alt "herp derp I'm going to be a space pirate" "one sec let be log on to this other space pilot" "wait, who am I?"
It's kind of sad to that at least 50% of the EVE population are the same people.
Even if you try to get away from alts, you don't have one, you are now at a crippling disadvantage to everyone else.
Yeah it ruins the game imo. |
Freezehunter
159
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Posted - 2012.06.21 14:26:00 -
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I agree with OP, every account should just have ONE character, since you can't train on other characters at the same time anyway.
I only have ONE account and only this character, and 2 more alts on this account that I never use /only use for market checks when I am away from Jita.
I am ******* sick of people always assuming that I am a spy or asking if I have alts, or assuming that I am an alt, asking for my API key or other BS like that, because of my weird employment history, which has very good and valid and real reasons to be the way it is...
I've never scammed in this game, I've never stolen anything from anyone, yet everyone I ******* meet automatically gets paranoid and assumes everyone else is an alt.
IMO, people that want alts should PAY FOR EXTRA ACCOUNTS, not just buy 2 more super high SP chars on the same account, it's pointless.
Eve is the only MMO that I play where I don't have any alts.
In WoW I had 17 alts.
In SWTOR I had 8.
In AION and Rift I had 5.
**** alts in Eve, seriously, it gives people that have them super unfair advantages, and makes everyone else paranoid and impossible to interact with.
In other MMOS, having many alts doesn't give you bullshit OP advantages, you can't PVP "solo" on 8 characters at the same time like you can in Eve, you can't have an entire personal bot mining fleet that makes you bullshit amount of ISK, you can't do missions on multiple chars at the same time to get **** tons of money.
And even if you can, it doesn't matter how much money you have in other MMOS, but in Eve, when the person you kill in that bullshit "solo" 8 alts vs 1 actually loses **** that he has to waste time to get back, it's a big problem. Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |
AllUrIskRBelongToMeToo
NuclearSpaceFishCapitalism
54
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Posted - 2012.06.21 15:06:00 -
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never going to happen. CCP would lose a lot of business and that cannot be accepted. Your best best is to not push for the complete removal of alts, but force players to get back to a 0.0 security rating before recycling a character. If they do not do so they cannot delete the character. reduce the starting Sp for new characters, slightly buff response times on concord, slight buff to t1 mining barges and maybe even t2. Increase turn around times on recycling characters.
If you really want to reduce griefing there is the answer, not something that will never be put into play. People that fly like saints in game also use alts, its not just those looking to **** others off. Most of the market systems would quickly die and everyone would find it near impossible to find what they want, when they need it at an affordable price. market alts would likely be one of the first wave of characters to disappear from the game.
Your argument against using alts assumes that you can only train a single character, forever. You can never switch characters to train for a certain skill, then hop on the other alt to have it train a completely different skill. Therefore your statement is short sighted and harms everyone across the board regardless of how they play. |
AllUrIskRBelongToMeToo
NuclearSpaceFishCapitalism
54
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Posted - 2012.06.21 15:09:00 -
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I see nonsense about alts give people OP advantages. What OP advantages does someone gain on an alt that is not in use because they are on the main character of that account? Also, What Bullshit, OP, advantages do they gain because they used their alt slot and you did not? Last i checked, you had the same chances to make an alt. You should know that alts are not something you can use all at the same time. someone that is using 8 'alts" are using 8 different accounts to run 8 different ships to **** your face. No one is stopping you from buying and maintaiing a small fleet of alts. If you can manage to pull that off, gg. |
Freezehunter
161
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Posted - 2012.06.21 16:55:00 -
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AllUrIskRBelongToMeToo wrote:I see nonsense about alts give people OP advantages. What OP advantages does someone gain on an alt that is not in use because they are on the main character of that account? Also, What Bullshit, OP, advantages do they gain because they used their alt slot and you did not? Last i checked, you had the same chances to make an alt. You should know that alts are not something you can use all at the same time. someone that is using 8 'alts" are using 8 different accounts to run 8 different ships to **** your face. No one is stopping you from buying and maintaiing a small fleet of alts. If you can manage to pull that off, gg.
Yes, except the part where I don't have time to play this game 24/7like some of the lifeless basement dwellers on here.
Besides, some of us just want to pay our sub and play with ONE character, like the game is supposed to be played.
Alts represent most of the **** that's broken in this game.
Alt scammers.
Alt dec shields.
Alt Spies.
Alt Bot fleets.
Cyno alts (that a person who plays the game with a single character and account, like me, can't have, and is thus at a disadvantage FROM THE START when it comes to capitals).
Alts killing the character that has a huge bounty to cash in on said bounty.
Margin trade scamming with alts, AND MANY OTHER PROBLEMS LIKE THOSE, that arise because of people that **** with the system using alts.
All this crap started being 50 times worse since CCP put PLEX in the game and allowed people that should have no ******* business playing Eve (unemployed people that can't afford a sub), play the game. Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |
Tanae Avalhar
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:39:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:AllUrIskRBelongToMeToo wrote:I see nonsense about alts give people OP advantages. What OP advantages does someone gain on an alt that is not in use because they are on the main character of that account? Also, What Bullshit, OP, advantages do they gain because they used their alt slot and you did not? Last i checked, you had the same chances to make an alt. You should know that alts are not something you can use all at the same time. someone that is using 8 'alts" are using 8 different accounts to run 8 different ships to **** your face. No one is stopping you from buying and maintaiing a small fleet of alts. If you can manage to pull that off, gg. Yes, except the part where I don't have time to play this game 24/7like some of the lifeless basement dwellers on here. Besides, some of us just want to pay our sub and play with ONE character, like the game is supposed to be played. Alts represent most of the **** that's broken in this game. Alt scammers. Alt dec shields. Alt Spies. Alt Bot fleets. Cyno alts (that a person who plays the game with a single character and account, like me, can't have, and is thus at a disadvantage FROM THE START when it comes to capitals). Alts killing the character that has a huge bounty to cash in on said bounty. Margin trade scamming with alts, AND MANY OTHER PROBLEMS LIKE THOSE, that arise because of people that **** with the system using alts. All this crap started being 50 times worse since CCP put PLEX in the game and allowed people that should have no ******* business playing Eve (unemployed people that can't afford a sub), play the game. What happens when, one day, less and less people pay for Eve with real money, like me, and buy PLEX for real money, and leave? I'll tell you what happens, all that will be left will be these ******* basement dwellers with 50 alts they pay for with PlEX, and CCP will go bankrupt, and Eve will DIE. We already have MANY, MANY people that wouldn't even be in Eve right now if they couldn't pay for it with in game money, which means they will just quit the game when that stops being an option one day. So yeah, **** alts in Eve, I've been playing since 2007 like a normal person, and I never had or felt the need to cheat the system with alts, or by buying PLEX to fund my ****. If Eve was F2P, I'd understand this system where you can effectively buy ISK with real money, but when I pay my sub and I am actually at a disadvantage to people who DON'T, that's just bullshit.
Wow well your safe from the other alts on this account and the four other accounts that I pay for for now, but once they rebalance the wardec system are you going to be sure that the Orca and hulks sitting in the belt with you are really miners or are they really spies from a wardec corp looking for your POS. Not sure how you got Eve is supposed to be played with one character, why would they allow multi boxing if this was so.
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Marconus Orion
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
105
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:53:00 -
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I once wondered what the game would have been like if there was only one character per account. Sadly will will never know. Once the cat is out of the bag, you can't put it back. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1092
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:04:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:On the other hand, people that make 5 bils a day with their 50 bullshit alts, can just **** over everyone else and they just pay their accounts with PLEX and don't actually suffer from losses at all, then they come over the forums and yell "you mad bro?" every time someone like me has a valid concern about the game, like learning implants being a very necessary but extremely bullshit waste of money that makes ISK broke people like me risk averse. You know what?
you mad bro?
And sheesh, 50 alts is what, 25billion a month... unless you mean characters and not a 50-man mining fleet. Then it's 8+ bil a month, not bad. Paying your plexes in two days... huh. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
529
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:25:00 -
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I wish they would get rid of alts too, because the server would die shortly after.
Anyone who thinks it wouldn't is a fanboi with no clue.
I've explained symbiotic relationships many times over, and the smart people don't care because they already understand and try to foster that, and the dumb ones just whine/troll.
I Laugh Out Loud at OP's proposal and anyone who supports it. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
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