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Forranz
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Posted - 2009.12.20 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Forranz on 20/12/2009 06:21:56
I was chatting with a friend about buying some new stuff for my computer, over time.
Firstly, I'll start with my specs.
Motherboard: MSI K9N4 SLI-F (MS-7325)
Chipset: nVidia nForce4
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2200 Mhz
Ram: 3072 MB (2x 1gb @ 800mhz, 2 512)
Video Card: ATI Sapphire X1950 XT Pro [Good card back in the day..]
HDD: Internal is 250gb, External is 320. Running Windows 7.
Case: Cooler Master Stacker 830 Linkage
Not sure but I think my Power Supply is a 600 watt.
I am pleased with the system, some things are a bit out of date but it still does really well for me.
I considered this processor: AMD Phenom but I am unsure as to which motherboard I should go with.
Should I replace my mobo and get a good processor first, and just move the ram and video over and then replace slowly?
I'm definitely a fan of AMD so sorry guys, no Intel stuff.
Thanks!
-Forranz
Edit: Should I even bother with AM3 yet? I haven't kept up with the hardware requirements lately so I'm not sure if the DDR2 ram will still be supported w/ AM3.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.20 10:00:00 -
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Doesn't look that bad to me, memory is a bit "off" and the vidcard is getting a tad outdated. But it really just depends on what you (want to) do with your comp that makes it outdated, if it's running fine and you don't expect to do massively different things with your comp, leave it as is and just replace it completely when you run into trouble.
If you have "issues" right now, or expect them in the very near future then tell us what it is, otherwise it's impossible to give any advice.
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.20 10:29:00 -
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Here's a list of processors that should be compatible with your mobo: http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/K9N4_SLI_%28MS-7325%29.html
Judging from that list, I'd say it's about time you replaced the whole mobo to get a beefier CPU in there. EVE in particular is more processor-heavy than GPU heavy, so getting a fresher processor in there would be a higher priority than getting a new GPU in the system. That said, I think (never been an expert at ATI) you should be able to find a better graphics card than that one for pocket change these days.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.20 10:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Here's a list of processors that should be compatible with your mobo: http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/K9N4_SLI_%28MS-7325%29.html
Judging from that list, I'd say it's about time you replaced the whole mobo to get a beefier CPU in there. EVE in particular is more processor-heavy than GPU heavy, so getting a fresher processor in there would be a higher priority than getting a new GPU in the system. That said, I think (never been an expert at ATI) you should be able to find a better graphics card than that one for pocket change these days.
Bolded the outdated info.
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Grimpak
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Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.20 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Judging from that list, I'd say it's about time you replaced the whole mobo to get a beefier CPU in there. EVE in particular is more processor-heavy than GPU heavy, so getting a fresher processor in there would be a higher priority than getting a new GPU in the system. That said, I think (never been an expert at ATI) you should be able to find a better graphics card than that one for pocket change these days.
I agree with updating the mobo, but not because of the cpu, since you have some space in terms of cpu in it.
I would upgrade it more because of pci-e 2.0 than anything to make use of the more recent gfx cards, which is the upgrade you should be getting.
it's not a "must-do" upgrade tho, since pci-e 2.0 cards are retro-compatible with older pci-e formats.
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Forranz
Malice.
Tentative Nature
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Posted - 2009.12.20 12:43:00 -
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The heaviest I do is programming, run a lightweight server off of it, run two eve clients so nothing too tasking.
I've never been good with motherboards, are there any that I should look for/stay away from? MSI was highly recommended (and it's done me well), so I may stick with them but I am not sure.
Definitely going to do the mobo first then.
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.20 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Riva
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Here's a list of processors that should be compatible with your mobo: http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/K9N4_SLI_%28MS-7325%29.html
Judging from that list, I'd say it's about time you replaced the whole mobo to get a beefier CPU in there. EVE in particular is more processor-heavy than GPU heavy, so getting a fresher processor in there would be a higher priority than getting a new GPU in the system. That said, I think (never been an expert at ATI) you should be able to find a better graphics card than that one for pocket change these days.
Bolded the outdated info.
It's not as outdated as CCP will have you believe. A powerful processor (intel quad-core) teamed with a mid-range graphics card (GeForce 8800 GT, for example) will give you much better performance than you'd get with a meagre CPU and a good graphics card, and probably cost you less.
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D3F4ULT
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.20 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Originally by: Marko Riva
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Here's a list of processors that should be compatible with your mobo: http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/K9N4_SLI_%28MS-7325%29.html
Judging from that list, I'd say it's about time you replaced the whole mobo to get a beefier CPU in there. EVE in particular is more processor-heavy than GPU heavy, so getting a fresher processor in there would be a higher priority than getting a new GPU in the system. That said, I think (never been an expert at ATI) you should be able to find a better graphics card than that one for pocket change these days.
Bolded the outdated info.
It's not as outdated as CCP will have you believe. A powerful processor (intel quad-core) teamed with a mid-range graphics card (GeForce 8800 GT, for example) will give you much better performance than you'd get with a meagre CPU and a good graphics card, and probably cost you less.
Quad core = overrated.
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.20 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: D3F4ULT
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Originally by: Marko Riva
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Here's a list of processors that should be compatible with your mobo: http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/K9N4_SLI_%28MS-7325%29.html
Judging from that list, I'd say it's about time you replaced the whole mobo to get a beefier CPU in there. EVE in particular is more processor-heavy than GPU heavy, so getting a fresher processor in there would be a higher priority than getting a new GPU in the system. That said, I think (never been an expert at ATI) you should be able to find a better graphics card than that one for pocket change these days.
Bolded the outdated info.
It's not as outdated as CCP will have you believe. A powerful processor (intel quad-core) teamed with a mid-range graphics card (GeForce 8800 GT, for example) will give you much better performance than you'd get with a meagre CPU and a good graphics card, and probably cost you less.
Quad core = overrated.
Indeed. For eve you want a higher clock per core instead of MOAR COARS. Unless you're running Seventy-Two tabs of Chrome in the background with five of them streaming various questionable flash video's...
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Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2009.12.20 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Unless you're running Seventy-Two tabs of Chrome in the background with five of them streaming various questionable flash video's...
that would surely crash the internet!
and eve uses waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much juice considering how it looks as well tbh.
I think i've figured out why the eve client/game is so dreadful in terms of performance. bug testing, etc, too..I hear to work for ccp you have to move to iceland? so, basically, they are drawing from a talent pool of people who are willing to move to iceland (tiny), and damn, it shows :P
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Forranz
Malice.
Tentative Nature
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Posted - 2009.12.20 16:06:00 -
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Feel free to recommend AMD CPUs over a quad core. I'm all ears.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.20 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Forranz
The heaviest I do is programming, run a lightweight server off of it, run two eve clients so nothing too tasking.
I've never been good with motherboards, are there any that I should look for/stay away from? MSI was highly recommended (and it's done me well), so I may stick with them but I am not sure.
Definitely going to do the mobo first then.
MSI were good, but dunno how they rate atm.
Gigabyte = pwn.
if upgrading the mobo, get one with the latest intel chipset, since that way you don't get restricted to crossfire-only or SLI-only, if you ever go for dual/multi-card setups.
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Forranz
Malice.
Tentative Nature
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Posted - 2009.12.20 20:20:00 -
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At most I'll be sticking with single card systems.. and I really really like AMD so I may have to use their chipset. I think I will take your advice and use a Gigabyte board.
Basically Motherboard -> CPU -> RAM -> Video is the steps I am probably going to take.
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