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Griznatle
Caldari Advocates of Sin
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Posted - 2009.12.25 19:09:00 -
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Edited by: Griznatle on 25/12/2009 19:09:33
Originally by: Jared D'Uroth vindicator
Hiem mad, bro. For your enjoyment boosh
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oh, on the other hand, did you read my sig?
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Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar Universal Peace Operation
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Posted - 2009.12.25 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: Jared D''Uroth on 25/12/2009 19:13:40
Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 25/12/2009 19:02:14 Ok just got done looking into this. 1) Our pilot was unaware of the 1v1 going on. 2) He landed on the gate unaware of what was going on but saw reds fighting 3) He got locked 4) He returned lock and pointed the person who locked him but held fire. (TBH I suspect he only held fire due to the target dying quickly, I sure wouldn't have held fire if someone locked me first.) 5) Person who locked him died to the other targets. 6) After the target died he joined the fleet with the others and they went on to get a few kills in lowsec.
Simple as that.
Protip: If you're going to 1v1, don't do it on a gate, will prevent things like this in future. TBH best to do 1v1 at a safe.
Just as a refernce: Noir. doesn't generally do 1v1 but if we know of them or if one of our pilots accepts one we honor them.
actually I think(may have to check) have fraps to prove he locked me first and was sitting at the gate with the "bros" when I arrived.
if you honestly believe that he just happened to get invited, you are not intelligent at all.
I didn't go blinky either, there would have been no reason for him to take gate guns in an interceptor.
Originally by: Jared D'Uroth vindicator
Hiem mad, bro. For your enjoyment boosh
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Quote: I think the point [of t3] was that your foes would never know how you were fit, adding the element of surprise. Like, surprise!!! I decided to go with EHP and DPS.
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Griznatle
Caldari Advocates of Sin
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Posted - 2009.12.25 19:16:00 -
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As I was trolling the local Amamake pirate killboards, I saw that km. Then I saw his QQ. Glad I trained intelligence to 4, cause I put those two dots together.
oh, on the other hand, did you read my sig?
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Taram Caldar
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.25 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jared D'Uroth Edited by: Jared D''Uroth on 25/12/2009 19:13:40
Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 25/12/2009 19:02:14 Ok just got done looking into this. 1) Our pilot was unaware of the 1v1 going on. 2) He landed on the gate unaware of what was going on but saw reds fighting 3) He got locked 4) He returned lock and pointed the person who locked him but held fire. (TBH I suspect he only held fire due to the target dying quickly, I sure wouldn't have held fire if someone locked me first.) 5) Person who locked him died to the other targets. 6) After the target died he joined the fleet with the others and they went on to get a few kills in lowsec.
Simple as that.
Protip: If you're going to 1v1, don't do it on a gate, will prevent things like this in future. TBH best to do 1v1 at a safe.
Just as a refernce: Noir. doesn't generally do 1v1 but if we know of them or if one of our pilots accepts one we honor them.
actually I think(may have to check) have fraps to prove he locked me first and was sitting at the gate with the "bros" when I arrived.
if you honestly believe that he just happened to get invited, you are not intelligent at all.
I didn't go blinky either, there would have been no reason for him to take gate guns in an interceptor.
Originally by: Jared D'Uroth vindicator
Hiem mad, bro. For your enjoyment boosh
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ahahahahhahahhahhahaaa
Per our in-game conversation I will review logs from both you and CaptainBro to confirm who's story is true.
Thank you.
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Glowstix
Minmatar Broski Enterprises No Fun Allowed
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Posted - 2009.12.25 20:33:00 -
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People die in lowsec, news at 11.
Merc corps whacking each other off over e-honour, further developments at 8.
Also, 420 gank with Vindicator erry day.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.25 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Marko Riva on 25/12/2009 21:58:16 I like how an ex-Broksi who joined your corp was "unaware" that some Broskis were killing someone. I also see the logic in tackling someone on a gate while others/"unknowns" are fighting giving yourself agression timer so you can't jump to safety if the aggressors would decide to attack you...
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Hellfury Resurrected
Incura HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.25 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Taram Caldar 1) Our pilot was unaware of the 1v1 going on. 2) He landed on the gate unaware of what was going on but saw reds fighting
Broski Enterprises from 2009.07.21 18:18 to 2009.12.15 20:33
Yeah he just happened to be there purely by coincidence, but had no idea what was going on with all these people on the gate. UNACCEPTABLE.
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Horza Gobochul
Caldari Broski Enterprises No Fun Allowed
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Posted - 2009.12.25 23:17:00 -
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Saying "in b4 you mad bro" does not invalidate me saying YOU MAD BRO?
Also, ctpBro I know you can not resist a juicy low sec gank. Don't be in denial and just admit that you always have been, and will be a bro.
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MoloMowChow
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Posted - 2009.12.26 00:35:00 -
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U MAD bro?
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Kruz Sanar
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Posted - 2009.12.26 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 25/12/2009 19:02:14 Ok just got done looking into this. 1) Our pilot was unaware of the 1v1 going on. 2) He landed on the gate unaware of what was going on but saw reds fighting 3) He got locked 4) He returned lock and pointed the person who locked him but held fire. (TBH I suspect he only held fire due to the target dying quickly, I sure wouldn't have held fire if someone locked me first.) 5) Person who locked him died to the other targets. 6) After the target died he joined the fleet with the others and they went on to get a few kills in lowsec.
Simple as that.
Protip: If you're going to 1v1, don't do it on a gate, will prevent things like this in future. TBH best to do 1v1 at a safe.
Just as a refernce: Noir. doesn't generally do 1v1 but if we know of them or if one of our pilots accepts one we honor them.
Seemed unlucky for him to fight on a gate, but apparently lucky for your pilot..
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Siddy
Minmatar Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.26 00:48:00 -
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hmm, i see your honour is as big as mine! Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Mickey Simon
TEMPLAR.
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Posted - 2009.12.26 04:14:00 -
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Edited by: Mickey Simon on 26/12/2009 04:15:05 Let's review the facts.
1) Jared isn't ******ed enough to engage at a gate in a rupture and get a GCC. There's no sentry guns on the killmail (that would probably have been a giveaway yeah?)
2) Guy was in Broski Enterprises for a while.
3) Guy has a brofist in his bio.
So Jared is obviously fighting without a GCC (or not at a gate) and this pilot who has obvious ties to the main fleet just happens to end up there while a bunch of bros are dishonouring a 1v1?
That anyone would believe that **** is laughable at best. Seriously, use your brain.
Worth noting I'm p sure Jared isn't having a "BAWWW KILLED IN LOSEC" rant. From his kb he solos there pretty often and has a track record of kills and losses without making "bawww" threads.
I figure this thread is full of ******s or alts.
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Yargmah
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Posted - 2009.12.26 04:28:00 -
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y u guys mad tho?
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar Final Agony
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Posted - 2009.12.26 05:05:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 26/12/2009 05:07:18 This has been dealt with, the horribly fitted Vindicator has been destroyed.
Case closed.
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Keria Matsuma
NQX Innovations HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.26 05:23:00 -
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Taram Caldar > I really don't care what you think. I have never, and will never, lie about events in a *game* and won't admit to a pilot doing something he didn't do.
Taram Caldar > actually my pilot did nothing wrong. He had no knowledge that there was a 1v1 on, the "1v1" was at a gate. When our pilot arrived it wasn't a 1v1 and the pilot in question locked his ship. He pointed the hostile ship. Taram Caldar > The person locking him was red Keria Matsuma > So you have U-POP set red? Taram Caldar > no red flashy Keria Matsuma > no he wasn't Keria Matsuma > He engaged a -10 Keria Matsuma > (jared) Keria Matsuma > so jared was not flashy Taram Caldar > he also engaged our pilot Keria Matsuma > No, he didn't Keria Matsuma > I was there. Taram Caldar > then how did a stiletto survive gate fire? Keria Matsuma > The vindicator took it first.
etc etc, me explaining gcc mechanics to taram and then: Taram Caldar > but, no offense jared... you're fairly well known to be a forum troll. In fact you left out part of your local chat "n1 Dishonor" "TO THE FORUMS!" Taram Caldar > according to my pilot he landed at a gate in the middle of a fight and pointed someone who locked him Jared D'Uroth > do you think he was roaming solo? Jared D'Uroth > in a stiletto? Jared D'Uroth > and just happened Taram Caldar > travelling according to him
Quote: 6) After the target died he joined the fleet with the others and they went on to get a few kills in lowsec.
this whole thing is pretty lol. Any attempts to protect CaptainBRO further tarnish the reputation Aleks built. Noir. has lost any respect I previously had for them and Taram has shown he is an incapable leader.
tl;dr: Taram is a tool.
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Hellfury Resurrected
Incura HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.26 05:50:00 -
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Edited by: Hellfury Resurrected on 26/12/2009 05:50:40 tbh Taram is really looking like a pretty big retard in this thread.
"But guys he told me that he didn't know! He swore on his e-honour and everything!"
Let's examine the facts that Taram has been so kind as to completely ignore.
1. Jared D'Uroth (-1.7 sec status) agrees to 1v1 Kahvegi (-9.9 sec status) on a gate. Jared agresses first, so nobody takes sentry fire.
2. 1v1 is dishonoured Vindicator blah blah etc. is warped in to the fight.
3. "Neutral" Noir. Stiletto with a corp history that indicates that he was in the same corp as the 1v1 dishonourers arrives on the gate and sees 4+ GCC guys engaging 1 non-GCC guy.
4. He then decides to go GCC on a lowsec gate in a Stiletto because the 1 non-GCC guy locked him?????
Lets run through that again. He sees 4 GCC guys on a gate and decides to agress himself (by going GCC in an inty no less) in the middle of a pirate blob.
5. He then pleads innocence, claiming he wasn't flying with his former corpmates of 5 months.
6. Taram Caldar, having clearly reviewed all the facts very carefully, buys into his air-tight cover story???
Words cannot describe how baffled I am by Taram's reaction to what should be a clear-cut case.
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Hellfury Resurrected
Incura HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.26 06:16:00 -
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Oh, and I completely overlooked the fact that the pilot in question continued roaming with the same people for over an hour after this kill.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.12.26 07:26:00 -
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Honestly if I warped to a gate and saw some of my ex-corpmates engaging someone on a gate and I was in a stiletto I would point the guy real quick then fly away but hey I'm a killmail *****. Who wouldn't do it though? Plus if you did do it then started talking to some friends you could end up flying with them for old times sake. It has happened to me a couple times and its a game why not fly with some old friends its not really that big of a deal. Of course this could all be bull but who knows its one persons word against anothers.
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Taram Caldar
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.26 08:19:00 -
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Edited by: Taram Caldar on 26/12/2009 08:23:05 All I'll say at this point is re-read my reply to Jared. It's under investigation. I'm still gathering data to compare. Once I have it we'll deal with whatever the outcome is.
I also find Karia's post pretty silly considering he was there (in the convo) when I had Jared send me logs and specifically told him I'd be looking further into the issue after he and I had talked.
Feel free to troll in the meantime... It's actually pretty amusing.
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Taram Caldar
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.26 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: Taram Caldar on 26/12/2009 09:03:38 Update: This has been dealt with.
Pilot in question did not turn over his logs when requested and instead pontificated about why he didn't understand how it really all mattered. In light of the fact that a direct request for in-game logs was ignored and, instead, a 100 word post pontificating on why he thinks this is all silly was sent I have opted to remove the offending pilot from Noir.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to continue to investigate a case where the pilot, who is still in his first 11 days with the corp, cannot comply with a simple request for his combat logs and local chat logs.
Originally by: Hellfury Resurrected
Originally by: Hellfury Resurrected How fast can you backpedal, Taram?
Impressive
I don't see how stating I am investigating and then when I get an in-game mail of this type I take action is backpedaling ;) But hey whatever :)
(Have I mentioned I hate that ****ing 5 minute timer?)
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Hellfury Resurrected
Incura HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.26 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Hellfury Resurrected How fast can you backpedal, Taram?
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.26 10:03:00 -
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Edited by: Marko Riva on 26/12/2009 10:03:12 Something tells me that NOIR's CEO should look into who's taking care of any issues that arise, because that person clearly isn't up to the standards people expect from a Merc corp that has worked hard to get and keep it's (earned) reputation.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.26 10:26:00 -
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So who am I supposed to wardec about all this? ~
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Marc Isabel
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.12.26 10:32:00 -
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Edited by: Marc Isabel on 26/12/2009 10:32:15
Originally by: Marko Riva Edited by: Marko Riva on 26/12/2009 10:03:12 Something tells me that NOIR's CEO should look into who's taking care of any issues that arise, because that person clearly isn't up to the standards people expect from a Merc corp that has worked hard to get and keep it's (earned) reputation.
During Christmas weekend:
- Issue is brought up
- Issue is investigated
- Issue is dealt with
Those are higher standards and a more speedy resolution than you'll get at 99% of RL services. If you feel this leaves anything to be desired, you're out of touch. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.26 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Marc Isabel Edited by: Marc Isabel on 26/12/2009 10:32:15
Originally by: Marko Riva Edited by: Marko Riva on 26/12/2009 10:03:12 Something tells me that NOIR's CEO should look into who's taking care of any issues that arise, because that person clearly isn't up to the standards people expect from a Merc corp that has worked hard to get and keep it's (earned) reputation.
During Christmas weekend:
- Issue is brought up
- Issue is investigated
- Issue is dealt with
Those are higher standards and a more speedy resolution than you'll get at 99% of RL services. If you feel this leaves anything to be desired, you're out of touch.
Issue is brought up, NOIR representative states that it's under investigation but due to holidays it's going to take a bit. That's a very reasonable stance and if that representative would have been smart he'd have left it at that till he/or someone who knows what he's doing has had the chance to look at it. Simple mail to the OP stating "can't help you right now, we'll get in contact when the guy in charge is back" should suffice.
Instead said representative either somehow believed the obvious bullcrap story the ex-broski came up with or he tried to cover it up, I'm still trying to figure out which is worse. Deal with things properly or don't deal with them at all, especially not in public. I really can't understand you're defending your rep's actions.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.26 11:05:00 -
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Class act by Noir.
Lulz thread tho. More please
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Mustache Man
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Posted - 2009.12.26 11:40:00 -
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After reading this, I have a few questions I would like answered.
1. Did the guy get a refund, or is this more about Noir. and less about honor? (again) 2. Does anyone in Noir. have 'fun' or is it all professional ehonoring and forum image maintenance? 3. Will the offending bro ever ever find another home in eve or is there no 'life after Noir. boot.'? 4. Can Noir. hide the wanton pirating that sustains their meager kb stats behind the curtain any longer? 5. Will the bitter ex-Noir. fanboi club ever band together and form it's own corp? (Eager.Fanboi.Noir. is open) 6. Will neutral rr ever be fixed? 7. Will Taram ever figure out that the posters of crime and punishment continue to manipulate him via his overly large ego?
Please dear readers, I need to know.
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Staggerr
Broski Enterprises No Fun Allowed
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Posted - 2009.12.26 11:43:00 -
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It's totally unacceptable that a Noir. interceptor killmail-*****d onto a dishonored 1v1 killmail. The nerves he had to activate his disruptor on this poor victim, while other people ganked him, boy!
ps: What ****** agrees to a 1v1 on a gate in Egghelende? [spoiler]lol he mad[/spoiler]
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.26 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mustache Man After reading this, I have a few questions I would like answered.
1. Did the guy get a refund, or is this more about Noir. and less about honor? (again) 2. Does anyone in Noir. have 'fun' or is it all professional ehonoring and forum image maintenance? 3. Will the offending bro ever ever find another home in eve or is there no 'life after Noir. boot.'? 4. Can Noir. hide the wanton pirating that sustains their meager kb stats behind the curtain any longer? 5. Will the bitter ex-Noir. fanboi club ever band together and form it's own corp? (Eager.Fanboi.Noir. is open) 6. Will neutral rr ever be fixed? 7. Will Taram ever figure out that the posters of crime and punishment continue to manipulate him via his overly large ego?
Please dear readers, I need to know.
Nice post history bro. ~
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Mustache Man
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Posted - 2009.12.26 11:53:00 -
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Thanks?? Sometimes I can't tell when you're serious.
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