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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin This blog is about me.. So I'm linking it...
Well OK, the start is about me (and my gift) and then it gos back to Joe rants.. i forgot how hard it was to read his chatlogs.. When he has time to think things through, like in mails, he actually writes quite well..
The fun never ends!
Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character...only fools buy into anything a forum alt says though... And yes I am an alt :) |
Jindabyne
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Varg Tepes No need for an attourney (yet at least ).
I am just collecting tears for my collection Griefertears ARE the best tears
And since Zedric and hes bunch of merry men cant see when enough is enough, then it is up to.....*drumroll* the ones with still functioning brains to stop (or at least try) the harrasment of one person
So to summ it up...
You are absolutely right! Why didn't I see this earlier?
This message of yours has truly shown the error of my ways and I will strive to be a better person from now on!
(Your point is well substantiated, however... Your mum )
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.23 16:28:00 -
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You know i was getting to the point wehere i also felt the joe show had perhaps run its course, luckily i found a simple solution, i went down to providence to check out Joe Phoenix for myself. After 45 mins in system with him i already found him intensely annoying and after one hour i was happily negotiating with members of Ushrakan to provide a warp in for their fleet to gank him.
Unfortunately he docked before this could be accomplished but i would recommend to anyone who thinks the IEEE investigation is unfair to go spend some time with the man himself, you'll soon see as i did that Joe Phoenix richly deserves everything he gets, has gotten and will get in the future.
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Exaduss
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.23 19:08:00 -
[304]
Excellent page nine snipe, sir.
Joe seems particularly fond of KBP7-G at the moment.
Also, kudos to CVA for camping the **** out of their gates. --
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.23 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Exaduss Excellent page nine snipe, sir.
Joe seems particularly fond of KBP7-G at the moment.
Also, kudos to CVA for camping the **** out of their gates.
i do my best . As regards getting into CVA space i find having a jump clone set nearby minimizes the warning they get if you are KOS (luckily at the moment we aren't)
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Varg Tepes
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.24 08:11:00 -
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I got nothing against killing Joe ingame.. That is a big part of this game.. Constantly scamming him is also something i dont mind seing the always lovely Miss Torrin doing..
But.. (and this one smells)
I would like to see all this ingame, not here on the forums, because (and lets face it) not all of us are at our best behaviour in here . It is easy to forget that there is a living breathing human behind that character. And if someone is not "like you" or behaves like you, do that give all of us the right to come this hard down on someone? Would that not be like harrasing? He is only here to play this game the same way we all are.. so what if he is a bit annoying? Maybe you all should stop follow him?
Guess im speaking to deaf ears, but try to remember... Joe Phoenix is not an NPC.
And no, im most certainly not a white knight.. Im more like the man in the park with a present in my pants
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Hue Janus
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Posted - 2010.01.24 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Varg Tepes I got nothing against killing Joe ingame.. That is a big part of this game.. Constantly scamming him is also something i dont mind seing the always lovely Miss Torrin doing..
But.. (and this one smells)
I would like to see all this ingame, not here on the forums, because (and lets face it) not all of us are at our best behaviour in here . It is easy to forget that there is a living breathing human behind that character. And if someone is not "like you" or behaves like you, do that give all of us the right to come this hard down on someone? Would that not be like harrasing? He is only here to play this game the same way we all are.. so what if he is a bit annoying? Maybe you all should stop follow him?
Guess im speaking to deaf ears, but try to remember... Joe Phoenix is not an NPC.
And no, im most certainly not a white knight.. Im more like the man in the park with a present in my pants
I have been avidly following the Joe Show and the accompanying blog and although his idiocy is redoubtable there is a point at which I start to feel uneasy with this whole thing. Glad someone else has voiced this concern. Once it gets into RL insults etc the amusement dissipates rapidly.
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2010.01.24 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Trok Mienal on 24/01/2010 11:22:24
Originally by: Hue Janus
Originally by: Varg Tepes I got nothing against killing Joe ingame.. That is a big part of this game.. Constantly scamming him is also something i dont mind seing the always lovely Miss Torrin doing..
But.. (and this one smells)
I would like to see all this ingame, not here on the forums, because (and lets face it) not all of us are at our best behaviour in here . It is easy to forget that there is a living breathing human behind that character. And if someone is not "like you" or behaves like you, do that give all of us the right to come this hard down on someone? Would that not be like harrasing? He is only here to play this game the same way we all are.. so what if he is a bit annoying? Maybe you all should stop follow him?
Guess im speaking to deaf ears, but try to remember... Joe Phoenix is not an NPC.
And no, im most certainly not a white knight.. Im more like the man in the park with a present in my pants
I have been avidly following the Joe Show and the accompanying blog and although his idiocy is redoubtable there is a point at which I start to feel uneasy with this whole thing. Glad someone else has voiced this concern. Once it gets into RL insults etc the amusement dissipates rapidly.
I do understand how the both of you feel, I don't agree with your assessments however. When I think back on my days of being the director of the I.C. (did you know I even helped come up with the name?) and saw first hand how this all started and the amount of damage Joe caused so many people. I feel no sympathy toward him. He has lied, scammed, and directly hurt many people, even those who offered to help him with all of this. He knows how to end all this, he knows what would be in his best interest and the interest of of anyone involved with him, and that is to resign as CEO of the I.C.
Joe Phoenix has serious defects in his leadership ability, and he is a major risk to anyone in his corporation. If he did not prey on those who know not his history, he would not have any members. Not like those who join stick around very long anyhow. Until he resigns as CEO I see no reason any of this should end.
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Dracoknight
Strategic Syndicate Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.24 11:37:00 -
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i can hardly imagne he even breathes...
Heres a little story for ya all:
Joe wanted to 1v1 me once in jita, so i said sure. but however my conditions were that we had to sit at at a planet, he wanted to fight outside a station. after lots of arguing we ( or i ) agreed to fight 50km off a gate, he however warped in at zero ( rule break no.1 ) Well, he enganged me and after i melted 50% of his shields he said something in the lines of "I would never break your tank" and then he deagressed and ran for the gate ( Rule break no.2 we never said anything i would let him live after this ) Then during this a Neutral Hurricane jumped in and started bumping Joes Drake, i however didnt see the hurricane before after Joe started whining in my priv convo: "I cant believe you draco" and i was like "Huh?"
Then he whined about the neut that bumped him, and i told him why i didnt agree to fight at a station, and i invited the bumper to the convo, much to my delight he screamed "I WAS THE FRIEND YOU PAID TO BUMP HIM AM I RITE?" i found it hilarious and then even more funny as Joe actually believed him.
And now he thinks i am the fault in all of this, but he should have known better than to 1v1 someone in Jita.
So the TL;DR is:
Joe 1v1 me, Joe Tries to run, Neut cane bump him off, he rage, i lol'd, 1 drake less ____________________
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.24 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Hue Janus
Originally by: Varg Tepes I got nothing against killing Joe ingame.. That is a big part of this game.. Constantly scamming him is also something i dont mind seing the always lovely Miss Torrin doing..
But.. (and this one smells)
I would like to see all this ingame, not here on the forums, because (and lets face it) not all of us are at our best behaviour in here . It is easy to forget that there is a living breathing human behind that character. And if someone is not "like you" or behaves like you, do that give all of us the right to come this hard down on someone? Would that not be like harrasing? He is only here to play this game the same way we all are.. so what if he is a bit annoying? Maybe you all should stop follow him?
Guess im speaking to deaf ears, but try to remember... Joe Phoenix is not an NPC.
And no, im most certainly not a white knight.. Im more like the man in the park with a present in my pants
I have been avidly following the Joe Show and the accompanying blog and although his idiocy is redoubtable there is a point at which I start to feel uneasy with this whole thing. Glad someone else has voiced this concern. Once it gets into RL insults etc the amusement dissipates rapidly.
Joe gets what he deserves....he is a lost cause...and being "sorry" for him is ******ed...EOD.
And it was Joe how made the RL insults, please train "Reading Skill" to level 1, thanks in advance.
Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character...only fools buy into anything a forum alt says though... And yes I am an alt :) |
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Hue Janus
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Posted - 2010.01.24 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: Hue Janus on 24/01/2010 12:23:08
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Hue Janus
Originally by: Varg Tepes I got nothing against killing Joe ingame.. That is a big part of this game.. Constantly scamming him is also something i dont mind seing the always lovely Miss Torrin doing..
But.. (and this one smells)
I would like to see all this ingame, not here on the forums, because (and lets face it) not all of us are at our best behaviour in here . It is easy to forget that there is a living breathing human behind that character. And if someone is not "like you" or behaves like you, do that give all of us the right to come this hard down on someone? Would that not be like harrasing? He is only here to play this game the same way we all are.. so what if he is a bit annoying? Maybe you all should stop follow him?
Guess im speaking to deaf ears, but try to remember... Joe Phoenix is not an NPC.
And no, im most certainly not a white knight.. Im more like the man in the park with a present in my pants
I have been avidly following the Joe Show and the accompanying blog and although his idiocy is redoubtable there is a point at which I start to feel uneasy with this whole thing. Glad someone else has voiced this concern. Once it gets into RL insults etc the amusement dissipates rapidly.
Joe gets what he deserves....he is a lost cause...and being "sorry" for him is ******ed...EOD.
And it was Joe how made the RL insults, please train "Reading Skill" to level 1, thanks in advance.
At what point did I accuse Zedrick or anyone else of making RL insults? Please read before you quote, it makes you look silly
My point is that I agree with the sentiment that when things get out of game, for example this forum thread or the RL insults it starts to get a bit seedy and dubious. Still if you cannot understand that then okay, the world is full of people with different levels of complexity. Thanks in advance.
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Damien McCandless
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.24 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hue Janus
Originally by: Varg Tepes I got nothing against killing Joe ingame.. That is a big part of this game.. Constantly scamming him is also something i dont mind seing the always lovely Miss Torrin doing..
But.. (and this one smells)
I would like to see all this ingame, not here on the forums, because (and lets face it) not all of us are at our best behaviour in here . It is easy to forget that there is a living breathing human behind that character. And if someone is not "like you" or behaves like you, do that give all of us the right to come this hard down on someone? Would that not be like harrasing? He is only here to play this game the same way we all are.. so what if he is a bit annoying? Maybe you all should stop follow him?
Guess im speaking to deaf ears, but try to remember... Joe Phoenix is not an NPC.
And no, im most certainly not a white knight.. Im more like the man in the park with a present in my pants
I have been avidly following the Joe Show and the accompanying blog and although his idiocy is redoubtable there is a point at which I start to feel uneasy with this whole thing. Glad someone else has voiced this concern. Once it gets into RL insults etc the amusement dissipates rapidly.
Ok serious and sensible question. Do you think that the bringing RL insults into the matter should nullify the ongoing IEEE investigation? Or that they should BE a reason to investigate?
Any RL insults that I am aware that the suspect or any investigators may have made have been made in game and repeated on chat logs or in quotational form on the forums as part of the publicly available information that IEEE are required to make available as part of the Public Information Act. This ongoing investigation is not being conducted (just) for amusement. It is a serious and important part of the work that we here at the IEEE do in an attempt to protect citizens from the perpetration of bad Standards and Practices by CEOs who consider their own wallet above the well-being of their employees. The deployment of RL insults is infact one of a long list of infractions that Grand Commander and Ex-Rear Admiral Joseth Phoenix stands accused of.
Any amusment generated is purely conincidental.
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Hue Janus
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Posted - 2010.01.24 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Damien McCandless
Originally by: Hue Janus
Originally by: Varg Tepes I got nothing against killing Joe ingame.. That is a big part of this game.. Constantly scamming him is also something i dont mind seing the always lovely Miss Torrin doing..
But.. (and this one smells)
I would like to see all this ingame, not here on the forums, because (and lets face it) not all of us are at our best behaviour in here . It is easy to forget that there is a living breathing human behind that character. And if someone is not "like you" or behaves like you, do that give all of us the right to come this hard down on someone? Would that not be like harrasing? He is only here to play this game the same way we all are.. so what if he is a bit annoying? Maybe you all should stop follow him?
Guess im speaking to deaf ears, but try to remember... Joe Phoenix is not an NPC.
And no, im most certainly not a white knight.. Im more like the man in the park with a present in my pants
I have been avidly following the Joe Show and the accompanying blog and although his idiocy is redoubtable there is a point at which I start to feel uneasy with this whole thing. Glad someone else has voiced this concern. Once it gets into RL insults etc the amusement dissipates rapidly.
Ok serious and sensible question. Do you think that the bringing RL insults into the matter should nullify the ongoing IEEE investigation? Or that they should BE a reason to investigate?
Any RL insults that I am aware that the suspect or any investigators may have made have been made in game and repeated on chat logs or in quotational form on the forums as part of the publicly available information that IEEE are required to make available as part of the Public Information Act. This ongoing investigation is not being conducted (just) for amusement. It is a serious and important part of the work that we here at the IEEE do in an attempt to protect citizens from the perpetration of bad Standards and Practices by CEOs who consider their own wallet above the well-being of their employees. The deployment of RL insults is infact one of a long list of infractions that Grand Commander and Ex-Rear Admiral Joseth Phoenix stands accused of.
Any amusment generated is purely conincidental.
Right, just went back a re-read a whole load of the Joe show. If he is actually English I weep for my countries future and believe he is the product of 10 years of a Labour government. He really is a complete tool; please keeelll him!
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Exaduss
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:21:00 -
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I posed a question to a -7- diplomat, in passing.
A CVA neutral corp, call it ImpCom, declares war against another corp, call it BL_ARR.
ImpCom then proceeds to hide in Providence, with the holders protecting them against their own war targets.
Now, this so far is fact.
Is this how the CVA intended the NRDS policy to be used?
I understand fleeing to Providence to avoid declarations against you. But staying there and relying on the good graces of the holders to protect you from your own war targets seems a bit much.
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Syringe
Incura
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Exaduss I posed a question to a -7- diplomat, in passing.
A CVA neutral corp, call it ImpCom, declares war against another corp, call it BL_ARR.
ImpCom then proceeds to hide in Providence, with the holders protecting them against their own war targets.
Now, this so far is fact.
Is this how the CVA intended the NRDS policy to be used?
I understand fleeing to Providence to avoid declarations against you. But staying there and relying on the good graces of the holders to protect you from your own war targets seems a bit much.
This is how CVA NRDS mechanics have operated for years. They have been used in such a way on numerous occassions fairly constantly, and it has been brought to their attention - this is not something they are ignorant of. They have protected macroers, smacktalkers and cowards, and use their pet corps to do it.
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William Caldon
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:52:00 -
[316]
Edited by: William Caldon on 24/01/2010 21:52:33
Originally by: Exaduss I posed a question to a -7- diplomat, in passing.
A CVA neutral corp, call it ImpCom, declares war against another corp, call it BL_ARR.
ImpCom then proceeds to hide in Providence, with the holders protecting them against their own war targets.
Now, this so far is fact.
Is this how the CVA intended the NRDS policy to be used?
I understand fleeing to Providence to avoid declarations against you. But staying there and relying on the good graces of the holders to protect you from your own war targets seems a bit much.
For some, its the only legit way of getting out of a griefing wardeck that can never be stopped. I support Providence for that reason. In Joe's case, his is the only exception as he never tries to surrender or get out of it. He's an ass too.
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:57:00 -
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The best part of that whole business is that Zedrik has flat out told Joe he could turn the Ceoship over to an alt and carry on running the IC from behind the scenes and the war would dropped, seems joe is too egotistical to realise hes been offered an easy out.
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Exaduss
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.24 22:15:00 -
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No, I mean JOE declared war on SOMEONE ELSE for once.
And then hides in Provi, using it as a base.
I just didn't consider Joe capable of that level of tactical thinking.
Foolish me.
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.24 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Darek Castigatus The best part of that whole business is that Zedrik has flat out told Joe he could turn the Ceoship over to an alt and carry on running the IC from behind the scenes and the war would dropped, seems joe is too egotistical to realise hes been offered an easy out.
To be fair, it had to be a 'non obvious' alt and Joe himself would have to keep his mouth shut. At least in dealing with other people...but yes. --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2010.01.24 22:42:00 -
[320]
Originally by: Zedrik Cayne Joe himself would have to keep his mouth shut
Is that even possible? ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
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Karadan Kaarwen
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:01:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Gavin DeVries
Originally by: Zedrik Cayne Joe himself would have to keep his mouth shut
Is that even possible?
I highly doubt it.
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Dracoknight
Strategic Syndicate Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:58:00 -
[322]
i am suprised Joe even managed to learn how the basic functions of this game worked... though its limited to undock, "F1" and a horrible "currency handling"
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Exaduss
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.25 05:34:00 -
[323]
Joe may have lost his ability to use the undock button, Draco.
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Maisonian
Amarr The Green Machine Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.25 12:18:00 -
[324]
Why not setup an NPC alt, head out to Providence and track Joe down. Upon finding him ratting/plexing/generally being an arse, set about 'noobishly' salvaging his wrecks or somthing equally irritating. Hopefully he'll be so insenced he'll open fire; one presented killmail later and IC is KOS. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator |
Millie Clode
Amarr Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.25 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Maisonian Why not setup an NPC alt, head out to Providence and track Joe down. Upon finding him ratting/plexing/generally being an arse, set about 'noobishly' salvaging his wrecks or somthing equally irritating. Hopefully he'll be so insenced he'll open fire; one presented killmail later and IC is KOS.
Stealing is on the list of naughty things CVA doesn't like you doing in their space. ---------- Sig Page 1 Snipah YOU CANT MINE SO YOU KILL |
Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.25 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Millie Clode
Originally by: Maisonian Why not setup an NPC alt, head out to Providence and track Joe down. Upon finding him ratting/plexing/generally being an arse, set about 'noobishly' salvaging his wrecks or somthing equally irritating. Hopefully he'll be so insenced he'll open fire; one presented killmail later and IC is KOS.
Stealing is on the list of naughty things CVA doesn't like you doing in their space.
Salvaging isn't stealing, though. A noob could easily assume that because it's allowed in highsec, it would also be allowed in CVAspace.
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Maisonian
Amarr The Green Machine Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.25 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Maisonian on 25/01/2010 12:46:51 Ah salvaging, that wonderful grey area that CCP won't touch with a 10ft pole I prefer to reprocess CVA ships into baseal components with pewpew but im sure with some 'incentive' Joe would forget his own rules and those he has to adhere to.
"ohi there, can you tell me if this [link to officer item] is any good? I just found it in a wreck a few jumps back?"
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