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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1308
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Posted - 2012.06.21 07:46:00 -
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Since joining the Minmatar militia months ago, I have noticed a disturbing trend: certain members of the militia do not regard other friendly militia members as... well... friendly. Most notably, my corporation and others I have worked with have had problems with KA POW POW Inc, members of the Late Night Alliance. They have repeatedly opened fire without cause or warning, leading to asset loss, Amarr fleets getting away, and other war objectives being compromised.
I have repeatedly tried diplomatic approaches, and have only found false assurances and been ignored. The result: yesterday, the Damu'Khonde alliance declared war on Late Night Alliance.
We do not seek to sabotage the anti-Amarr war effort, or to antagonize Late Night Alliance. We do not have any enmity for Autocannons Anonymous or other corporations who do respect friendlies.
We do, however, aim to clarify our standings. Those who shamelessly shoot allies will get shot back. They do not deserve "friendly militia" markings, and will be on the same business end of our guns as the Amarr are until they rectify their behavior. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
188
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Posted - 2012.06.21 08:11:00 -
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How unfortunate.
Given the strength of your people's spirit, I suspect this is partly do to Federal influence. Individualism at the expense of group strength. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Los Muertas
Mir'Mulnir Tribe
15
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Posted - 2012.06.21 08:18:00 -
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I wasnt even aware that DK was active in the warzone. Thesis on Tribal Traditionalism |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1308
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Posted - 2012.06.21 08:21:00 -
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Los Muertas wrote:I wasnt even aware that DK was active in the warzone. We became active as an alliance a little over a month ago, as an entity to unite ex-Ushra'Khan pilots who wanted to focus on the warring militias instead of on null-security holdings. I probably should have made a public announcement to that effect, but neglected to. My bad! Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
164
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Posted - 2012.06.21 08:31:00 -
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Having served in the militia I'm privy to the knowledge of Late Night Alliance's attacks on other militia entities.
Of course, I would expect you to protect your crews as you see fit, but I can't help but feel that this news only highlights a symptom of a much deeper sickness within the militia. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1308
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Posted - 2012.06.21 09:52:00 -
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I have my own opinions on deeper problems the militia has, but what's your take? Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
335
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Posted - 2012.06.21 12:03:00 -
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It saddens me to see this behavior has infested even the Matari militia. It seems every militia is filled with self-seeking privateers and pirates using the CONCORD delegation of "militia" as a mask to hide their intentions. These capsuleers have forsaken their honor and their integrity, they have turned their backs to their comrades and are the worst of filth flying under the banner of their respective governments.
The Honor Guard would offer assistance in dealing with piratical elements in your militia, but our participation in the State's militia makes us war targets to you and those within your militia. While I have no doubt you would honor such an arrangement, you cannot speak for the others who may or may not be aware of the arrangement or choose to honor it. Instead, the Honor Guard will extend its sincere hope for your success against this treachery while we continue to struggle with the same situation in our own.
~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon Honor Guard Recruitment Video ((OOC WHG PR Video)) |
Dame Death
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
1
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Posted - 2012.06.21 12:52:00 -
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Let me guess, you took some of Ka-pows loot, or tried to "leech" a compound, and they shot you?
All I can say is good luck to Manos and co. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
318
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Posted - 2012.06.21 12:56:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:It saddens me to see this behavior has infested even the Matari militia. It seems every militia is filled with self-seeking privateers and pirates using the CONCORD delegation of "militia" as a mask to hide their intentions. These capsuleers have forsaken their honor and their integrity, they have turned their backs to their comrades and are the worst of filth flying under the banner of their respective governments.
The Honor Guard would offer assistance in dealing with piratical elements in your militia, but our participation in the State's militia makes us war targets to you and those within your militia. While I have no doubt you would honor such an arrangement, you cannot speak for the others who may or may not be aware of the arrangement or choose to honor it. Instead, the Honor Guard will extend its sincere hope for your success against this treachery while we continue to struggle with the same situation in our own.
If I could, I would like to throw a quote at you.
"Never stop your enemy while he is making a mistake." |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
292
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Posted - 2012.06.21 14:09:00 -
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Surely you aren't suggesting capsuleer militia groups are taking advantage of CONCORD regulations for their own gain?
I find this claim dubious and highly unlikely. |
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Rogue Integer
Center for Empyrean Studies
9
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Posted - 2012.06.21 14:56:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:If I could, I would like to throw a quote at you.
"Never stop your enemy while he is making a mistake."
Honour, or at least the appearance of it, seems to matter more to Pilot Khross than victory or even consistency.
Perhaps the internal squabblings of the militias will allow them to focus their destructive energies on each other and overlook elements actually trying to do something useful. |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
336
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Posted - 2012.06.21 15:00:00 -
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Rogue Integer wrote: Honour, or at least the appearance of it, seems to matter more to Pilot Khross than victory or even consistency.
They are not exclusive. As for consistency, my actions and my words have remained consistent not only to themselves but also to one another.
Rogue Integer wrote:Perhaps the internal squabblings of the militias will allow them to focus their destructive energies on each other and overlook elements actually trying to do something useful.
Perhaps. ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon Honor Guard Recruitment Video ((OOC WHG PR Video)) |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1310
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Posted - 2012.06.21 15:11:00 -
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Dame Death wrote:Let me guess, you took some of Ka-pows loot, or tried to "leech" a compound, and they shot you? Some of the times they shot us they used the reasons you listed, though our behavior was more "being within 100 km of KA POW POW's loot" and "being in a compound of theirs for a couple of seconds, and never entering capture range" rather than any actual misbehavior on our part.
Believe me, I at first thought it was some of the novice members of Rifterlings screwing up as well, and I ensured everyone treated allies respectably: no loot-stealing, leaving a compound if asked to, etc. Only after the shootings continued under the same excuses, with no other militia groups complaining about Rifterlings behavior, did I start suspecting foul play. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
294
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Posted - 2012.06.21 15:50:00 -
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I have some lovely cheese that pairs excellently with this whine.
Shoot them back.
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1310
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Posted - 2012.06.21 16:33:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:I have some lovely cheese that pairs excellently with this whine.
Shoot them back. What do you think the point of the wardec is? It certainly isn't to cuddle up with them. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
338
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Posted - 2012.06.21 16:34:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote: [...] yesterday, the Damu'Khonde alliance declared war on Late Night Alliance.
Those who shamelessly shoot allies will get shot back. They do not deserve "friendly militia" markings, and will be on the same business end of our guns as the Amarr are until they rectify their behavior.
I do believe "shooting them back" was rather the point of the original posting, Vitalia. ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon Honor Guard Recruitment Video ((OOC WHG PR Video)) |
Xuixien
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
43
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Posted - 2012.06.21 16:54:00 -
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At aproximately 04:00 on the 18th of June, a small gang of Rifterlings in Kourmonen caught wind of an engagement at one of the asteroid belts. Eager to lend their assistance to fellow militia and shoot at Amarr, the gang warped to the belt and instead found themselves coming under fire from KA POW POW pilots, resulting in the loss of two frigates and dozens of Matari crewmembers. This incident, along with others, cannot be explained away by KA POW POW's simple greed for LP as the field was already cleared by the time our pilots arrived.
There have been reports of similar incidents from other pilots, including incidences of KA POW POW destroying the vessels of their own alliance mates.
This behavior - this treachery - cannot be tolerated in the Minmatar militia, and it will not be tolerated by the children of Ushra'Khan. While our brothers and sisters bleed under Amarrian rule this rogue group "KA POW POW" undermines our very efforts to liberate our kin for the sake of their own misguided greed. We have fought too hard, for too long, to see our efforts wasted so that these unscrupulous privateers can line their pockets with ISK.
This war will not end until KA POW POW either leaves militia or resolves to stop shooting purples. All Damu'Khonde pilots are in favor of this war, and are giving their full support for the war effort. We are prepared - willing and able - to see this war through. Rabble Rabble!! |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
294
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Posted - 2012.06.21 16:55:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote: [...] yesterday, the Damu'Khonde alliance declared war on Late Night Alliance.
Those who shamelessly shoot allies will get shot back. They do not deserve "friendly militia" markings, and will be on the same business end of our guns as the Amarr are until they rectify their behavior. I do believe "shooting them back" was rather the point of the original posting, Vitalia.
I must have missed it among all the Militia navel-gazing. My mistake!
Carry on, best of luck with the fratricide and all. |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
195
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:14:00 -
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I received a report earlier today that a massive alliance of pirates had been aiding the Minmatar against the Amarr but have apparently disengaged now. I wonder if your current woes will dissipate when the Republic's forces being to face serious opposition from the Empire. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
427
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Posted - 2012.06.21 21:45:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Malcolm Khross wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote: [...] yesterday, the Damu'Khonde alliance declared war on Late Night Alliance.
Those who shamelessly shoot allies will get shot back. They do not deserve "friendly militia" markings, and will be on the same business end of our guns as the Amarr are until they rectify their behavior. I do believe "shooting them back" was rather the point of the original posting, Vitalia. I must have missed it among all the Militia navel-gazing. My mistake! Carry on, best of luck with the fratricide and all.
This isn't fratricide.
This is excising a cancer, and even a civilian like me can see that, and recognise its importance.
In irae, veritas. |
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Jessie Arr
Order of the Black Dagger
2
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Posted - 2012.06.21 22:02:00 -
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The Order of the Black Dagger endorses this war, and hopes that the pilots within Late Night Alliance who we are honored to fly with on a regular basis, and who are worth their salt will take heed of the situation KA POW POW has placed them all in.
Flying under the same banner as traitors does your reputation no favors, and I hope soon to see skilled, respectable corporations like Autocannons Anonymous publicly distance themselves from KA POW POW and other corporations within Late Night Alliance who shamelessly betray their militia allies out of convenience and greed. Order of the Black Dagger is a corp based around a simple goal: getting as much small gang PvP as we can handle. We accept USTZ PvP pilots of all skill levels.-áIf you are interested in joining, or simply flying with us from time to time, join our ingame channel: Dagger Pub and give us a shout! Our killboard:-áhttp://daggers.eve-kill.net/ |
Tri Vetra
Rifters
51
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Posted - 2012.06.21 23:51:00 -
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the very idea that distinguished pilots of KA POW POW corporation would hurt fellow minmatar is quite laughable OP is clearly jealous of KA POW POW superior combat record
the very idea |
Ninlarra
Tounge punching fart boxes Late Night Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.21 23:58:00 -
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http://minmatar.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13732607
If the above is any indication, you guys are royally ******, as I am terrible.
So far. I am not impressed. |
Rogue Integer
Center for Empyrean Studies
17
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:01:00 -
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Given that you fly for a corporation that calls itself "Tounge (sic) punching fart boxes", I'm sure impressing you must be first on everyone's mind. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1314
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:04:00 -
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Ninlarra wrote:http://minmatar.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13732607
If the above is any indication, you guys are royally ******, as I am terrible.
So far. I am not impressed. We are also terrible. Lowhyres is terrible and has money. If he didn't lose that Cynabal to you, he would have lost it to some Amarr. As such, I don't see your point.
The war exists simply to solve the misunderstanding that we are allied. As we get repeatedly shot by LNA, we are clearly not allied and CONCORD records should show that. Plus, it allows us to better know the battlefield when we know that purple stars will not shoot us in the back. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Ninlarra
Tounge punching fart boxes Late Night Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.22 01:37:00 -
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Rogue Integer wrote:Given that you fly for a corporation that calls itself "Tounge (sic) punching fart boxes", I'm sure impressing you must be first on everyone's mind.
I not only fly fot it. I am the CEO.
My corp name is relevant to a bunch of terribles being terrible.
They got the **** kicked out of them by some rtard flying for a corp named Tounge (correct spelling was taken) punching fart boxes".
That is all.
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Rogue Integer
Center for Empyrean Studies
17
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Posted - 2012.06.22 01:45:00 -
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If you can't take the trouble to make it readable, why should we take the trouble to read it?
CAOD is thataway. -> |
Andiedeath
Sefem Velox Swift Angels Alliance
89
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Posted - 2012.06.22 01:55:00 -
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This war disheartens me. The circumstances that instigated this action by Damu'Khonde have not only been felt by them but have also been reported to me by other neighbouring alliances. Late Night Alliance have been a great ally to the Minmatar Militia and Swift Angels Alliance for the last 12 months. It is through their hard work and those of similar sleep patterns that the Militia is in the great position we are currently with regards to the war against the Amarr.
I would be further disheartening to see this great respect and that hard work severed by the actions of one Corporation within the Late Night Alliance (LNA) and I would hope either LNA leadership or Manos take action to change this behaviour.
Yours regretfully,
Andiedeath |
Xuixien
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
46
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Posted - 2012.06.22 02:00:00 -
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Ninlarra wrote:Rogue Integer wrote:Given that you fly for a corporation that calls itself "Tounge (sic) punching fart boxes", I'm sure impressing you must be first on everyone's mind. I not only fly fot it. I am the CEO. My corp name is relevant to a bunch of terribles being terrible. They got the **** kicked out of them by some rtard flying for a corp named Tounge (correct spelling was taken) punching fart boxes". That is all.
9. Killboard efficiency doesnt show how much fun you are having.
You don't sound like you're having fun.
Rabble Rabble!! |
Shaounee Huren
Tribal News Network
15
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Posted - 2012.06.22 02:08:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote: The war exists simply to solve the misunderstanding that we are allied. As we get repeatedly shot by LNA,.
Mister Blackshell, Shaounee Huren, Tribal News Network. Does the above statement indicate that this war has been expanded from only targeting KA POW POW to all of Late Night Alliance and if so what do you think will be the response of many of those allied with Late Night such as Iron Oxide, Electus Matari, Autocannons and Defiant Legacy?
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