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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2009.12.30 01:55:00 -
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Tactical Triage
High Slot 20 CPU 16 PG Can be fitted to Logistics Ships Toggles similar to a cloaking device.
+50% Range of remote armor, shield and hull repair modules. +50% Effectiveness of remote and local armor, shield and hull repair modules. -50% Duration and capacitor use of remote and local armor, shield and hull repair modules. +4 Maximum target locks. -90% Speed. Cannot warp, dock or jump while in use and for 1 minute after. Cannot be reactivated for 1 minute.
Pros: Improves the logistics class, gives pilots an option to improve their effectiveness at the cost of having to commit to the battle and their mobility.
Cons: None forseeable; may make clusters of logistics ships near invulnerable but that is easily countered by liberal application of ECM (as usual).
Requiring fuel of some kind might be a good idea from a balance standpoint, though I have no idea what item/amount would be appropriate.
Opinions?
On another note, how do you like your pods in the morning? |
darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.12.30 01:58:00 -
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imho the same implications as carrier triage. otherwise this will end up as too overpowered.
10-20 guardians/basis RRing each other and friends anyone?
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2009.12.30 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever imho the same implications as carrier triage. otherwise this will end up as too overpowered.
10-20 guardians/basis RRing each other and friends anyone?
I've implied fuel use to solve that exact problem. Though how much and of what...
What you're saying is similar to saying 10-20 Scorpions/Rooks/Falcons. That would be quite powerful, but unless it's part of a large gang it would be at a cost of a huge chunk of DPS. Hell, 10-20 ECM boats would be WORSE because they can still output some damage, whereas logistics ships need their high slots for RR.
On another note, how do you like your pods in the morning? |
MasterCeremony
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:44:00 -
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I'm loving the +4 to targets as well as the speed reduction and sorta the no warp and no dock. im not sure how that works in an rp sense, but hey. But the 50%'s to rep, cap and range are not realistic. 10-20% on all of it would be closer but still a stretch.
CCP - you should give this a thought. :j
-Mc
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Swish3r
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:58:00 -
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It would have to take the 'can't be remote repped' from regular triage or it would be abused.
And newsflash- logistics ships are not carriers. (but carriers are logistics ships, funny)
They don't have local tanks, nor the powergrid for them.
2 logistic ships can easily get themselves to 2000+ tank with the sig the size of a cruiser, this would triple it. (2x from 50% duration, 3/2x from 50% effectiveness)
as far as i can tell, logistic ships are one of the more balanced ship classes in the game. the devs should focus on more problematic issues.
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Gilgamesh1980
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.12.30 11:13:00 -
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imho I think this is a very bad idea.
a guardian has what 70 odd km RR range already? that should be more than enough,
also I don't think this shoul dbe called a triage mod and even if so, the carrier get's way more heavily impacted when going into triage than a Logistics ships ever could ,just down to it's limitations from the nature of the ship.
Carriers lose their Drone ability, unable to USE EWAR (disruptors etc) and can't move AT ALL.
what woudl the logistics ship lose? nothing absolutely nothing at all, and a 90% speed reduction means it still can move.
The logistics ships are very well balanced, and are very effective in oh so many of the good RR gang pilots in space.
get two of them on your sid,e and your enemy will have a problem, get three and they are screwed, unless they have the same, and then get ready for a VERY long fight.
Federic 'Gilgamesh1980' Chopin
Supreme Commander and Diplomat of the Black Rabbits and Gurlstas associates |
Swish3r
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Posted - 2009.12.31 00:09:00 -
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and another thing - 3 or more logistics with remote eccm become nigh unjammable.
logistics ships don't need to be improved imo.
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