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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 05:27:00 -
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thx omni. in response to ure question; from the log [ 2004.11.09 19:21:34 ] Omniwar > name a name, just one pilot from evol who did it [ 2004.11.09 19:21:57 ] Omniwar > or you just heard from others that we did? [ 2004.11.09 19:21:58 ] magickangaroo > yeah i was playin in bkg last week; bnc piolt straped on like 3-4 1600 plates and sat outside station [ 2004.11.09 19:22:01 ] magickangaroo > we engaged [ 2004.11.09 19:22:10 ] magickangaroo > local jumped up by 20 [ 2004.11.09 19:22:32 ] magickangaroo > and althou it was a bnc bait piolt evol guys warped in [ 2004.11.09 19:22:34 ] Flatliner > I remember that, that was them jumping into the system. [ 2004.11.09 19:22:57 ] magickangaroo > dunno about that mate my addy book lit up like a christmas tree [ 2004.11.09 19:23:08 ] magickangaroo > but hey cant prove it so not gonna argue bout it [ 2004.11.09 19:23:13 ] Flatliner > Yup they logged on in Z-K. [ 2004.11.09 19:23:23 ] Flatliner > When we called for support.
basically i cant prove it so im not going to do any mud slinging. i dont know if loggins have to be in the same system or not to be considered a login trap. u can see from flatliners respnose that the relevant peeps logged in in the adjacent system.
so basically im not going ot start naming names cos tbh i cant rember who turned up at the station. im not accusing anyone of anything. i dont see the point. but i hope u and i can agrea that untill some form of screen shot, showing aload of peeps loggining in to gank someone, apears then this kinda argument is pointless. in essence im not trying to argue with u im just trying to confirm and sugest to both sides that such a screen shot would be considered proof.
however in retrospect i can see that this idea is flawed as had i take a SS when peeps logged on in the adjacent system it would have shown my addy book lit up like a xmas tree. question is i spose is that a trap...
mgk
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 05:27:00 -
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thx omni. in response to ure question; from the log [ 2004.11.09 19:21:34 ] Omniwar > name a name, just one pilot from evol who did it [ 2004.11.09 19:21:57 ] Omniwar > or you just heard from others that we did? [ 2004.11.09 19:21:58 ] magickangaroo > yeah i was playin in bkg last week; bnc piolt straped on like 3-4 1600 plates and sat outside station [ 2004.11.09 19:22:01 ] magickangaroo > we engaged [ 2004.11.09 19:22:10 ] magickangaroo > local jumped up by 20 [ 2004.11.09 19:22:32 ] magickangaroo > and althou it was a bnc bait piolt evol guys warped in [ 2004.11.09 19:22:34 ] Flatliner > I remember that, that was them jumping into the system. [ 2004.11.09 19:22:57 ] magickangaroo > dunno about that mate my addy book lit up like a christmas tree [ 2004.11.09 19:23:08 ] magickangaroo > but hey cant prove it so not gonna argue bout it [ 2004.11.09 19:23:13 ] Flatliner > Yup they logged on in Z-K. [ 2004.11.09 19:23:23 ] Flatliner > When we called for support.
basically i cant prove it so im not going to do any mud slinging. i dont know if loggins have to be in the same system or not to be considered a login trap. u can see from flatliners respnose that the relevant peeps logged in in the adjacent system.
so basically im not going ot start naming names cos tbh i cant rember who turned up at the station. im not accusing anyone of anything. i dont see the point. but i hope u and i can agrea that untill some form of screen shot, showing aload of peeps loggining in to gank someone, apears then this kinda argument is pointless. in essence im not trying to argue with u im just trying to confirm and sugest to both sides that such a screen shot would be considered proof.
however in retrospect i can see that this idea is flawed as had i take a SS when peeps logged on in the adjacent system it would have shown my addy book lit up like a xmas tree. question is i spose is that a trap...
mgk
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 05:28:00 -
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anyhow i really think what ive been saying has come accross wrong sorry if it has. im not stiring i was trying to help. its obvious i aint so ill guess ill keep out of it from now on.
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 05:28:00 -
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anyhow i really think what ive been saying has come accross wrong sorry if it has. im not stiring i was trying to help. its obvious i aint so ill guess ill keep out of it from now on.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.20 05:37:00 -
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To be honest man, if an exploit is suspected then everyone, and I mean everyone should send in a petition.
No player should have an illegal and unfair advantage over other players in any size, shape or form.
That being said I can add to it that I have been petitioned alot of times, ALOT and in every single investigation it has been proven that I never went outside the rules of the game to gain an advantage.
That is why I have never and will never be banned from the game.
I will use any and all means to gain the upper hand before and in a fight, as long as it is within the rules of the game, simply because I value my game.
That is why I take great offence when being accused of going over the limit and will ridacule anyone who implies I cheat.
Simple as. Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.20 05:37:00 -
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To be honest man, if an exploit is suspected then everyone, and I mean everyone should send in a petition.
No player should have an illegal and unfair advantage over other players in any size, shape or form.
That being said I can add to it that I have been petitioned alot of times, ALOT and in every single investigation it has been proven that I never went outside the rules of the game to gain an advantage.
That is why I have never and will never be banned from the game.
I will use any and all means to gain the upper hand before and in a fight, as long as it is within the rules of the game, simply because I value my game.
That is why I take great offence when being accused of going over the limit and will ridacule anyone who implies I cheat.
Simple as. Spawn of the Devil
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Talyn Draco
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:29:00 -
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I ussually dont comment but in this instence I feel I must. I was in BKG most of the day. Chatting with ppl in prvt chats, refining just kinda chilling. I never at no time saw a log in trap. I did see guys jumping into the system, i saw bob guys getting their forces together. I even saw some humor in local from both sides< no smacktalk> But I never saw this "log in trap". -----------------------
And veggie in the back said "everyone" attack and it turned into a ballroom blitz! And Eris in the corner said "boy I wanna know ya" and it turned into a ballroom blitz |
Talyn Draco
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:29:00 -
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I ussually dont comment but in this instence I feel I must. I was in BKG most of the day. Chatting with ppl in prvt chats, refining just kinda chilling. I never at no time saw a log in trap. I did see guys jumping into the system, i saw bob guys getting their forces together. I even saw some humor in local from both sides< no smacktalk> But I never saw this "log in trap". -----------------------
And veggie in the back said "everyone" attack and it turned into a ballroom blitz! And Eris in the corner said "boy I wanna know ya" and it turned into a ballroom blitz |
Fred0
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Posted - 2004.11.20 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Omniwar That is why I take great offence when being accused of going over the limit and will ridacule anyone who implies I cheat.
Simple as.
LMAO, funniest ever from the first guy caught on tape logging out and in to save his ship
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Fred0
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Posted - 2004.11.20 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Omniwar That is why I take great offence when being accused of going over the limit and will ridacule anyone who implies I cheat.
Simple as.
LMAO, funniest ever from the first guy caught on tape logging out and in to save his ship
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.20 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: magickangaroo [ 2004.11.09 19:21:58 ] magickangaroo > yeah i was playin in bkg last week; bnc piolt straped on like 3-4 1600 plates and sat outside station
That's just *******s dude, who on earth behaved like that? Honestly we don't fight like that and there'll be serious management intervention if we thought one of our guys did.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.20 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: magickangaroo [ 2004.11.09 19:21:58 ] magickangaroo > yeah i was playin in bkg last week; bnc piolt straped on like 3-4 1600 plates and sat outside station
That's just *******s dude, who on earth behaved like that? Honestly we don't fight like that and there'll be serious management intervention if we thought one of our guys did.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.20 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Omniwar That is why I take great offence when being accused of going over the limit and will ridacule anyone who implies I cheat.
Simple as.
LMAO, funniest ever from the first guy caught on tape logging out and in to save his ship
So that relates how ?
Read and understand, then read again, talk to a friend and ask him if you understood it correctly, then ask another friend as well, since you clearly dont understand what is being written there.
Ihave never gone over the limits of the game, yes I was accused by Presidio of exploiting and yet it has been said by devs and gm's that no such exploit is possible way before that event took place.
And since you didnt really read my other post on the subject, I was logged out well before combat started, so implying I logged out in combat, meaning someone actually locked a target and fired would be lying, thus the 1 minute timer whih meant I escaped with 37% structure instead of 2 minutes and dead.
But then again as has been shown so many times in the past and will be shown again in the future, lying isnt really an unusual habit by PA members.
Now read and understand, then post.
Perhaps you get the picture. Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.20 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Omniwar That is why I take great offence when being accused of going over the limit and will ridacule anyone who implies I cheat.
Simple as.
LMAO, funniest ever from the first guy caught on tape logging out and in to save his ship
So that relates how ?
Read and understand, then read again, talk to a friend and ask him if you understood it correctly, then ask another friend as well, since you clearly dont understand what is being written there.
Ihave never gone over the limits of the game, yes I was accused by Presidio of exploiting and yet it has been said by devs and gm's that no such exploit is possible way before that event took place.
And since you didnt really read my other post on the subject, I was logged out well before combat started, so implying I logged out in combat, meaning someone actually locked a target and fired would be lying, thus the 1 minute timer whih meant I escaped with 37% structure instead of 2 minutes and dead.
But then again as has been shown so many times in the past and will be shown again in the future, lying isnt really an unusual habit by PA members.
Now read and understand, then post.
Perhaps you get the picture. Spawn of the Devil
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.11.20 11:13:00 -
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By the amount you lot post I know you can not be fighting. Just get out there and shoot each other FFS. Forum wars have absolutely no pretty sparklies when things explodes. --------------------------------------------------
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.11.20 11:13:00 -
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By the amount you lot post I know you can not be fighting. Just get out there and shoot each other FFS. Forum wars have absolutely no pretty sparklies when things explodes. --------------------------------------------------
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.20 11:20:00 -
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Im a miner not a fighter Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.20 11:20:00 -
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Im a miner not a fighter Spawn of the Devil
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Ordo Abchao
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Posted - 2004.11.20 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Omniwar Im a miner not a fighter
Who needs alt mining corps when you have omni.
He loves the crok Order out of Chaos |
Ordo Abchao
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Posted - 2004.11.20 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Omniwar Im a miner not a fighter
Who needs alt mining corps when you have omni.
He loves the crok Order out of Chaos |
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.11.20 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: sutty Ok there is a distinct different from saying - "hey there is some people to kill in bkg lets log on and find them then attack"
Yourselfs do "hey lets sit at a safespot logged while frigs find target then when he finds log on and kill"
Yes there is a difference, but both tactics suck. Now had you jumped in from surrounding systems, aye that'd be more appropriate.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.11.20 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: sutty Ok there is a distinct different from saying - "hey there is some people to kill in bkg lets log on and find them then attack"
Yourselfs do "hey lets sit at a safespot logged while frigs find target then when he finds log on and kill"
Yes there is a difference, but both tactics suck. Now had you jumped in from surrounding systems, aye that'd be more appropriate.
Reverend Necrona |
Fred0
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Posted - 2004.11.20 12:40:00 -
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You logged out on purpose and got caught on camera. No amount of constructing an alternative afterwards is gonna change that.
Personally I think all rl pollution of ingame environment is bad. And that you claim the moral highground because of intent is ludicrous. Especially since intent in itself is a non-provable.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2004.11.20 12:40:00 -
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You logged out on purpose and got caught on camera. No amount of constructing an alternative afterwards is gonna change that.
Personally I think all rl pollution of ingame environment is bad. And that you claim the moral highground because of intent is ludicrous. Especially since intent in itself is a non-provable.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.11.20 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 20/11/2004 16:09:50 Edited by: Siddy on 20/11/2004 16:03:13 Edited by: Siddy on 20/11/2004 16:01:04 Edited by: Siddy on 20/11/2004 15:41:52 @PA: Comon lads - no need to start flaming each other for some "logon trap"
If you suspekt a log on trap you shuld petettion it and see what GM's respond to it, not whine baut it in forums.
And second of all, that last time was not log on trap by any standards.
Once the fight engaged local jumped to 13 and out of nowhere comes the BS's.
And if you realy dont know were i came from or cant handle 3 intercoptors, 1 rupture and 1 tempest in raven and tempest, you shuld go back in empire and learn thing or two before coming back.
No flaming, just frendly advise.
----some coverange to that incident----
1# fights begin, frigs doing they thing, im doing my. Also im getting heavily poundet by hostile Gankpest (tempest with shield tank and 6 gyros t2's in low) - never the less my armor tank holds
2#
after short and furios fire exchange with enemy tempest at point blank range, setups and skills were measured and enemy were found wanty...
3#
After tempest was down, the nexst in line were that raven, who clearly forgot to take FoF's...
4#
and so came to pass that enemy were getting down in flames and mucho local smack -
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Shot of mercy... putting poor raven out of it misery's
Now, this is just another demonstration of BoB pilots superior skill's and teamwork - not a log on trap.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.11.20 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 20/11/2004 16:09:50 Edited by: Siddy on 20/11/2004 16:03:13 Edited by: Siddy on 20/11/2004 16:01:04 Edited by: Siddy on 20/11/2004 15:41:52 @PA: Comon lads - no need to start flaming each other for some "logon trap"
If you suspekt a log on trap you shuld petettion it and see what GM's respond to it, not whine baut it in forums.
And second of all, that last time was not log on trap by any standards.
Once the fight engaged local jumped to 13 and out of nowhere comes the BS's.
And if you realy dont know were i came from or cant handle 3 intercoptors, 1 rupture and 1 tempest in raven and tempest, you shuld go back in empire and learn thing or two before coming back.
No flaming, just frendly advise.
----some coverange to that incident----
1# fights begin, frigs doing they thing, im doing my. Also im getting heavily poundet by hostile Gankpest (tempest with shield tank and 6 gyros t2's in low) - never the less my armor tank holds
2#
after short and furios fire exchange with enemy tempest at point blank range, setups and skills were measured and enemy were found wanty...
3#
After tempest was down, the nexst in line were that raven, who clearly forgot to take FoF's...
4#
and so came to pass that enemy were getting down in flames and mucho local smack -
5#
Shot of mercy... putting poor raven out of it misery's
Now, this is just another demonstration of BoB pilots superior skill's and teamwork - not a log on trap.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:08:00 -
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Notice how the thread died out, haha --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:08:00 -
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Notice how the thread died out, haha --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: magickangaroo [ 2004.11.09 19:21:58 ] magickangaroo > yeah i was playin in bkg last week; bnc piolt straped on like 3-4 1600 plates and sat outside station
That's just *******s dude, who on earth behaved like that? Honestly we don't fight like that and there'll be serious management intervention if we thought one of our guys did.
if u actaully read the whole log ull see that the question was asked and answered in the log. basically to sum it up it was in fact flatliner with the 1600 plates and i apolgoiesed for my mistake.
mgk
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.11.20 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: magickangaroo [ 2004.11.09 19:21:58 ] magickangaroo > yeah i was playin in bkg last week; bnc piolt straped on like 3-4 1600 plates and sat outside station
That's just *******s dude, who on earth behaved like that? Honestly we don't fight like that and there'll be serious management intervention if we thought one of our guys did.
if u actaully read the whole log ull see that the question was asked and answered in the log. basically to sum it up it was in fact flatliner with the 1600 plates and i apolgoiesed for my mistake.
mgk
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