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Deison
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Posted - 2010.01.05 04:59:00 -
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hi, i have 10,000 datacore harvesting shares. do they still have value? will anyone buy them back?
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.05 05:25:00 -
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Haven't seen Matalano on for a very long time. The accounts were put into long term hibernation for a very periodic payout. Just hang on to them and hope for the best, but I would guess they are worthless.
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Deison
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Posted - 2010.01.05 05:28:00 -
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i will sell them for 200mil.. they used to be valued for over 1bil. anyone? |
Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.05 06:51:00 -
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I'll give you 2 million for them.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.01.05 10:42:00 -
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Especially worthless if CCP acts on the current "stop ghost RP accrual" thread in Features & Ideas discussion.
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.05 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
after an 18+ month absence
sheesh is it as long as that! he would of been back with the 5 day offer [best time to collect ]
I'll give you 20Mil just wire them to me and I'll drop the cash when I log in
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Carniflex
StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.05 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn Especially worthless if CCP acts on the current "stop ghost RP accrual" thread in Features & Ideas discussion.
That is as propable as removing T2 BPO's from game. Or stopping your market orders and industry jobs while you are not subbed. Can happen - but will it in near enough future - I doubt that.
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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2010.01.05 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn Especially worthless if CCP acts on the current "stop ghost RP accrual" thread in Features & Ideas discussion.
Lets see
terminating Ghost RP Accrual means that people who suspend there accounts dont have "Free income" to buy GTC/Plex for free play thus suportin the price of the plex thus making that more viable than RTM AND putting a few extra $$$ in CCPs pocket.
Vs whatever benifit would acrue from thoes "free" datacores not showing up on the market thus causing people to go around and skill up alts that will be stuck on the free alt slots that CCP does not get any $$$ from. . .
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.05 20:34:00 -
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Matalino's last post was on January 5th 2009. A nice 1 year anniversary.
Last dividends were paid August 23rd 2008
In the above dividend Matalino was promising another payment after liquidating a huge number of datacores. This payment wasn't made.
Matalino's other character Ki Tarra is still active in the game, and online as I write this but won't accept a convo or respond to my eve-mails.
I would catagerize this as a:
1. SCAM or 2. Business failed, and CEO can't be bothered
Either way I would think the shares are worthless.
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Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.05 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray Matalino's other character Ki Tarra is still active in the game, and online as I write this but won't accept a convo or respond to my eve-mails.
You are too impatient on waiting for a response. I was working on a different character and you had dropped offline before I could respond.
I am working on the harvest now, first half was completed last month except for selling a few thousand more datacores. Second half will begin as soon as I can get the characters reactived. I was hoping to avoid pestering a GM with the chore of reactivating those accounts, but they don't seem to be working very hard on finalizing the improvements to the PLEX system.
You can wait and collect the final dividend, or you can sell off your shares for whatever you want. It is up to you.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.05 20:59:00 -
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Nothing like keeping your investors updated.
1 year no posts!!
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Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.05 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS he would of been back with the 5 day offer [best time to collect ]
Too bad they nerfed that, otherwise you would have had a REALLY nice dividend: only one reactivation per person now.
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Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.05 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Deison i will sell them for 200mil..
I will offer you double that if you can't be bothered to wait for the dividend, and want to sell right now.
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.05 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray Nothing like keeping your investors updated.
1 year no posts!!
Huh. Yea really.
Though this isn't a horrible idea for a long term project.
Create some accounts with the free trial, one at a time.
Buy two plex for each one, one for the first month, and one for the collection month when the account is reactivated.
Use the first month + trial time to grind standings and set up research agents.
Reopen the account in a year and pay out to investors.
The assumption would be to do this on 6 accounts, so that payments, after a year, could be done every other month.
Take 20% off the top for the manager, take enough for a plex (to reopen that account in a year) and let it idle again.
Though it would have to be someone who really loved grinding standings, and was willing to do it 18 times over the course of a year.
Figure plexs + skillbooks would be what? A billion isk?
So 6 billion in, call it 8 for ships and ammo and welps.
Assuming datacores have finally finished going down, so the best L4 agents should net you ~19 mil a month in cores.
Five agents a character, three characters to an account. 285M in income a month. 3.4 Billion in a year.
Assume the .4 is lost to taxes & the next plex for a year later.
That leaves 3 billion. 20% to the manager, leaves 2.4 billion for payments.
Over 25 months, that's a 4% IRR on the original investment, assuming principal isn't paid back. Then the system is self sustaining annuity at 15%/month over the par value of the initial investment.
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.05 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ki Tarra
Originally by: Deison i will sell them for 200mil..
I will offer you double that if you can't be bothered to wait for the dividend, and want to sell right now.
Welcome back. Your PR skills are up there with Ebank's.
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Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.05 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Ki Tarra
Originally by: Deison i will sell them for 200mil..
I will offer you double that if you can't be bothered to wait for the dividend, and want to sell right now.
Welcome back. Your PR skills are up there with Ebank's.
Yes, and my bottom line is even better.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.05 21:58:00 -
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So one may ask
What is the expected dividends and payout? Is the business still continuing? Freeze for another year?
Could you give a full update please.
There have been many of these threads for the past year, none of which was ever answered.
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Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.05 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray Could you give a full update please.
Nope. My personal life has become too busy to provide carefully written reports. The best that I can offer is a dividend in the near future.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.05 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ki Tarra
Originally by: cosmoray Could you give a full update please.
Nope. My personal life has become too busy to provide carefully written reports. The best that I can offer is a dividend in the near future.
Not really asking for a large report. Just asking this once for a quick update as no one has heard anything in a year.
Do you plan on keeping the business going? Dividends, is it when you feel like it? Rough idea? Do you even care?
Answer to 3 questions is all that I ask
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Deison
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Posted - 2010.01.05 22:34:00 -
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i did sold my shares to ki tarra. very kind. thanks :)
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Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.05 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray Do you plan on keeping the business going?
Atleast one big dividend, possible two in the near future, depending on what I need to do to reactivate the accounts. After that I really haven't decided.
Originally by: cosmoray Dividends, is it when you feel like it?
Pretty much. The longer I wait the bigger the harvest. However, the longer I wait the greater the opportunity cost to investors. I have decided that the time to harvest is now-ish, but it will still take a month or two to harvest and sell the datacores. The largest variable is the question of can I use PLEX tokens, or do I need to buy GTC's: CCP seem to waver a bit on their policy at times. That should be settled wihtin a week or so.
Originally by: cosmoray Rough idea? Do you even care?
In a week or so I can offer an initial dividend if CCP co-operates. Month or two for the rest. Current wallet has enought for over 40k per share dividend provided that I can reactivate using PLEX. Add to that the income from the remaining characters: I hope that will bring atleast another 40k per share, most likely a fair bit more. As the remaining characters have been collecting for longer than the earler characters.
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.05 23:43:00 -
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So. Someone we never heard of before, logs on wanting to sell these shares.
Then the person running it who out and out disappeared a year ago, just happens to pop on and announce a buyback.
Who then buys the shares of Mystery Man #1.
I fully expect to see random alts offering shares for sale on the forum in the next few days/weeks, refering to this post.
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Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.06 02:12:00 -
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Edited by: Ki Tarra on 06/01/2010 02:15:32
Originally by: Kalrand Then the person running it who out and out disappeared a year ago, just happens to pop on and announce a buyback.
I haven't ever truly disappeared. I have always been posting on the forums, just not always in MD or about DATAC. I have also been easy enough to contact by EveMail, it just might take a few days for me to respond depending on how often I am logging on. Originally by: Kalrand Then the person running it who out and out disappeared a year ago, just happens to pop on and announce a buyback.
...and I haven't announced a buyback: I just took advantage of an opportunity for some insider trading.
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