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Naomi Knight Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2010.01.12 08:10:00 - [31] Nice to see ecm is still viable in some situations. Oh and dont forget to whine about disruptors why a frig without bonuses for warp disruptors can keep the carrier from warping out :P Oh and keep up the good work loosing expensive ships+fittings.
Calydonian Boar	Posted - 2010.01.12 09:12:00 - [32] Originally by: PCaBoo As for the original subject, I do think it's silly that a single falcon can jam a carrier with eccm's fitted, fairly easily. I don't really see any changes that are actually necessary tho... just a minor annoyance. I do miss having my alt sit 200km out, jamming folks if things got hairy. That's exactly the problem of most of the so-called pvp'ers. When they get in battleships, the think they are badass, when they get in carriers they think they are godlike... It's just a ship with more sensor strengt BUT REMEMBER ECm works on probablity and like every other probability other there including you getting hit by a car on the street which is silly as well, it may be successful sometimes. Put it on eft! if a standard falcon with uniform ecms use every single one on carrier, it gets 33 percent of chance to jam it, which is 1/3.. so yes it can happen, and no falcon doesn't need any more nerf, instead eve needs smarter players.
Hedliner Gallente Total Mayhem. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2010.01.12 13:19:00 - [33] Edited by: Hedliner on 12/01/2010 13:20:02 Originally by: Aria Moana Links to the other carrier KM please. Linkage Probably some more tears to shed, and the awefully fitted ships continue to bite the dust.
Saphyire	Posted - 2010.01.12 14:52:00 - [34] In the end, this is really just about failing at PVP, not about ECM cycles. The first missed jam cycle should have had you sending drones at the falcon. Obviously this isn't how things went down. I imagine that you saw your Kronos taking armor damage and were frantically swapping back and forth between your clients instead of properly puzzling out the problem. Live and learn, and please stop *****ing about ECM when you fail at pvp so utterly. Pew Pew.
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2010.01.12 14:56:00 - [35] the '3 bil kronos' had a tank less than that of a t2 fit, t1 rigged dual rep hyper. next time, use a hyper, and OMG fit eccm maybe. Yeah it only halfs your chance to get jammed, in a 1v1 wiht a falcon, with its 5-7 jammers focused on you, expect to get jammed still, even with 200+ strength. or get some freinds and a triage mod.
Calydonian Boar	Posted - 2010.01.12 15:00:00 - [36] change of topic request: Because I Fail
Sargine West	Posted - 2010.01.12 16:59:00 - [37] You were using the wrong module to counter ECM. Triage Module is what you wanted.
P3rv3rt	Posted - 2010.01.12 18:46:00 - [38] Originally by: Hedliner Edited by: Hedliner on 12/01/2010 13:20:02 Originally by: Aria Moana Links to the other carrier KM please. Linkage Probably some more tears to shed, and the awefully fitted ships continue to bite the dust. That wasn't my pvp carrier. This was my backup for logistics that i was trying to do a small test one before i got hotdropped. Chimera had 2 eccm.
Cuchulain Spartan	Posted - 2010.01.13 17:08:00 - [39] Did the RR carrier drop 10+ warrior II's or Sentries on the falcon and try force it off the field? Good jamming St1ck 0/
Digitally Enhanced Caldari	Posted - 2010.01.13 19:23:00 - [40] Originally by: P3rv3rt Edited by: P3rv3rt on 11/01/2010 19:01:10 ...derp derp Lamo falcon pilot spoils mah day again. This time solo falcon jams a carrier with 2 eccm and sensor strength of 204!!! Tiny falcon jams huge carrier with mods that are supposedly meant to counterbalance the ECM - FAIL! To hell with 3 bil kronos loss, or the bucket of tears that followed but I wants a counter to that noob "IWIN" button. I think ECM needs rework from random jam to actually go above sensor strength before being able to jam targets OR introduce another module for OPTICAL TARGETING. Even the Russians have this on their MIG29s, instead of using the radar and alerting the prey of them tailing them, they have optical targeting. Considering we are in space and there are no objects obstructing the view I don't understand why we don't have something. ECM is the only IWIN button of all the Electronic Warfare, r3tarded! For ****s and giggles, here is my cry mail http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9125047 PS The carrier was remote-repping the kronos until the evil falcon appeared. Needless to say without the carrier reps the kronos couldn't tank sentries and all the gang attacking it solo. Sad story I know but the point of this thread is about WTF-ECM falcon strength against a Chimera with 204 signal strenth, moresome, there is NO MODULE TO COUNTER ECM. Let me guess. You were camping the kickout in aulbres. And the locals finally had enough of you? Its rock paper scissor, and the rock just beat you up. If you cant stand taking a little loss. Dont go to lowsec You really had it coming. Quit whining, and buy a new one. Dont repeat yourself. And dont camp the same kickout. again, and again Btw. Nice job Sky Tillian :) A shame the server crashed last time ;) \\Digi
Cuchulain Spartan	Posted - 2010.01.13 21:47:00 - [41] Edited by: Cuchulain Spartan on 13/01/2010 21:56:49 Originally by: P3rv3rt Edited by: P3rv3rt on 11/01/2010 19:01:10 ...derp derp Lamo falcon pilot spoils mah day again. This time solo falcon jams a carrier with 2 eccm and sensor strength of 204!!! Tiny falcon jams huge carrier with mods that are supposedly meant to counterbalance the ECM - FAIL! Sad story I know but the point of this thread is about WTF-ECM falcon strength against a Chimera with 204 signal strenth, moresome, there is NO MODULE TO COUNTER ECM. St1ck the falcon pilot says he was running racials which means with Recon 4 and decent skills he was getting approx 10 strength per racial ECM not including fleet boost or overloading. He also had a full rack of racial ECM fitted so thats 7 of them. ECM cycles every 15-20 secs depending on skill. So thats; 10 Strength ECM vs 204 Carrier Sensor Strength (10/204) Thats a 10/204 chance of jamming per ECM per cycle. So every 15-20 secs St1ck was putting out 7 X 1/20.4 chance of jamming you. In 1 minute thats between 21-28 X 1/20.4 chance of jamming you (without overload and fleet boost) Speaks for itself really as to why he jammed you, he just kept rolling his odds and got lucky. Also, once a jamming mod ends its 15 to 20 secs cycle then you are un-jammed and the EWAR pilot has to start rolling his dice for the EWAR Gods again. Arazu - Warp disruptor, remote sensor dampening bonus works every time Rapier - Web range, target painter bonus works every time Pilgrim - Tracking Disruptor, Energy Vampire,Energy Neutralizer bonus works every time Falcon - ECM bonus only works some of the time (role of the dice odds) You see, all the other Recons work first time every time, a Falcon has to get lucky. For these reason an EWAR pilot is forced to sacrifice dps, tank, speed, survivability to try increase his odds on being effective whereas the other recons can be successful in their given bonus field first time every time with just a single bonus mod fitted. You dont see any other Recons trying to get lucky with 6 webs fitted or 6 warp disrupts or 4 NOS/Neuts An "I Win" Button? I think not, if anything its underpowered compared to other Recons.
Meeko Atari	Posted - 2010.01.13 21:56:00 - [42] Originally by: Cuchulain Spartan Edited by: Cuchulain Spartan on 13/01/2010 21:53:14 Originally by: P3rv3rt Edited by: P3rv3rt on 11/01/2010 19:01:10 ...derp derp Lamo falcon pilot spoils mah day again. This time solo falcon jams a carrier with 2 eccm and sensor strength of 204!!! Tiny falcon jams huge carrier with mods that are supposedly meant to counterbalance the ECM - FAIL! Sad story I know but the point of this thread is about WTF-ECM falcon strength against a Chimera with 204 signal strenth, moresome, there is NO MODULE TO COUNTER ECM. St1ck the falcon pilot says he was running racials which means with Recon 4 and decent skills he was getting approx 10 strength per racial ECM not including fleet boost or overloading. He also had a full rack of racial ECM fitted so thats 7 of them. ECM cycles every 15-20 secs depending on skill. So thats; 10 Strength ECM vs 204 Carrier Sensor Strength (10/204) Thats a 10/204 chance of jamming per ECM per cycle. So every 15-20 secs St1ck was putting out 7 X 1/20.4 chance of jamming you. In 1 minute thats between 21-28 X 1/20.4 chance of jamming you (without overload and fleet boost) Speaks for itself really as to why he jammed you, he just kept rolling his odds and got lucky. Also, once a jamming mod ends its 15 to 20 secs cycle then you are un-jammed and the EWAR pilot has to start rolling his dice for the EWAR Gods again. Arazu - Warp disruptor, remote sensor dampening bonus works every time Rapier - Web range, target painter bonus works every time Pilgrim - Tracking Disruptor, Energy Vampire,Energy Neutralizer bonus works every time Falcon - ECM bonus only works some of the time (role of the dice odds) You see, all the other Recons work first time every time, a Falcon has to get lucky. For these reason an EWAR pilot is forced to sacrifice dps, tank, speed, survivability to try increase his odds on being effective whereas the other recons can be successful in their given bonus field first time every time with just a single bonus mod fitted. You dont see any other Recons trying to get like with 6 webs fitted or 6 warp disrupts or 6 NOS/Neuts An "I Win" Button? I think not. 60% of the time it works everytime
Beltantis Torrence Groovy Guns	Posted - 2010.01.13 21:58:00 - [43] The only positive thing I have to say about my falcon is I made a profit reselling it thanks to T2 inflation. Its a garbage ship now. I'd rather fly a blackbird or a rook.
Cuchulain Spartan	Posted - 2010.01.13 22:00:00 - [44] Originally by: Meeko Atari 60% of the time it works everytime I dont see any other Recons only working 60% of the time. Sub cap jamming against non eccm targets and you with maxed out ECM/RECON skills might get you that 60%.
Meeko Atari	Posted - 2010.01.13 22:10:00 - [45] Originally by: Cuchulain Spartan Originally by: Meeko Atari 60% of the time it works everytime I dont see any other Recons only working 60% of the time. Sub cap jamming against non eccm targets and you with maxed out ECM/RECON skills might get you that 60%. Umm...that line was from a movie ( Ancorman ) Sex Panther I just couldn't help myself

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