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Passin Through
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Posted - 2010.01.13 03:02:00 -
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I've seen the effects in worm holes that give bonus's but the question is do the sleepers also get those bonus's?
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Edward Harris
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Posted - 2010.01.13 03:16:00 -
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From what i've experienced so far - yes, they do.
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2010.01.13 04:13:00 -
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Yep. Pulsar systems make them absolutely pathetic. Another stealth Caldari boost from CCP!
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Fernous
Gallente Section Eight LLC
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Posted - 2010.01.13 06:36:00 -
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Wolf-Raynet's are a double edged sword eh?
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.01.13 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Boltorano Yep. Pulsar systems make them absolutely pathetic. Another stealth Caldari boost from CCP!
Pulsars are indeed the best for sleeper bashing, but, Caldari isn't the only race who can pull off shield tanks on their ships.
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khazak mokl
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Posted - 2010.01.13 10:01:00 -
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They dont get the damage bonus's or not that we noticed anyway. Do a 100% bonus damage system and check it out. You will do uber damage and they hit for no more than usual in our logs. Of course you get the tracking/optimal range penalty too though but thats easy to get round. A C6 annom took us roughly 15 mins to do.
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2010.01.13 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: Boltorano Yep. Pulsar systems make them absolutely pathetic. Another stealth Caldari boost from CCP!
Pulsars are indeed the best for sleeper bashing, but, Caldari isn't the only race who can pull off shield tanks on their ships.
Of course not. Frivolity, sir.
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Passin Through
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Posted - 2010.01.13 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Edward Harris From what i've experienced so far - yes, they do.
Originally by: khazak mokl They dont get the damage bonus's or not that we noticed anyway.
Do a 100% bonus damage system and check it out. You will do uber damage and they hit for no more than usual in our logs.
So we have conflicting reports
Has any one else looked into this and can give some input?
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Lazarann
Mercury Nation House of Mercury
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Posted - 2010.01.13 22:06:00 -
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To add my two cents, I heard no, and I have not noticed any differences in the WH's I've been in. ---------------- A million faces, each a million lies |
Passin Through
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Posted - 2010.01.14 19:57:00 -
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I'll bump this once more to see if there are others who might not have seen this... who might want to comment. Thanks!
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Liang Nuren
The Lollypop Factory
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Posted - 2010.01.14 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 14/01/2010 20:50:25 I did a Cataclysmic C5 that had a damn near impossible spider tank to break... but we're hardly professional holies. I chatted briefly with Qui Shon's corp, but they're finishing up their last WH about the time I log on for the night. :(
-Liang
Ed: I am not saying either way whether the sleepers receive bonuses. I know that it was a ***** to break. I also know that the sleepers may only receive *some* of the bonuses. -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Kassa Daito
Capital Construction Research
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Posted - 2010.01.14 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Kassa Daito on 14/01/2010 23:34:15 Confirming that WH effects do help/hurt sleepers too.
We run C6 sites constantly and our isk/hr plummets when we end up in wolf-rayets and cataclysmics are almost as bad. This effect has been significant enough that we no longer run combat ops in either of those systems and in those run gas harvesting ops only. ** Disclaimer: Author sometimes spell checks but is not responsible for sins of commission, omission, emission, transmission, or submission. Flowers, bricks, or any other form of feedback appreciated |
Ace Secunda
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2010.01.14 23:45:00 -
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I can confirm that sleepers DO get armor resist bonuses from wolf-rayets but not damage bonuses from WH's that give those.
'If I can't blow it up It don't exsist'
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.01.15 08:36:00 -
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They also get rr bonuses, and armor res bonuses but, not all sleepers do RR. Just take out the ones with RR first, except 1 if it's the trigger of course (2nd wave AWarden in Basti comes to mind), then it's not such a big deal. I always take out the RR ships first anyway, whether sleepers or player gangs . If you're a bigger gang, maybe you can spare one pilot to fly a jamming ship, to deal with the worst RR offenders in RR bonused systems.
Personally I'd just skip the systems with bonuses that help the sleepers more then they do me.
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Passin Through
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Posted - 2010.01.20 18:01:00 -
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Thank you all. I do not think this information is in the other WH links. (Good information)
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PStuckey
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Posted - 2010.01.20 18:37:00 -
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I know that they receive the armor res nerf while in pulsars, but thats the only modification ive really dealt with.
if someone could definitively say whether or not they get dmg bonuses from some holes, that would be awesome. i know i've passed up a few holes because i wasnt sure if i could handle it.
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