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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.01.14 12:46:00 -
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Raptor is clearly at disadvantage compared to other tackler interceptors.
How to fix this: -1 high slot +1 med slot,any reason why matar has a 4 mid slot ceptor and caldari dont? +pg to be able to fit those railguns up or shield extender,it clearly lacks pg just try to fit up one more base shield hp, it has the lowest ehp ,and its shield just a little bit more than the maledictions (which is amarr) smaller signature, it is the slowest one fine as it is caldari but , with lowest ehp , it makes no sense why it has to be the 2nd larges one also
Oh and if you think raptor is fine , you are wrong. Also pls no ******ed posts, like you usually do, try to argue against my reasons, oh and no trolls thx.
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Flauschig Katzchen
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Posted - 2010.01.14 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Flauschig Katzchen on 14/01/2010 12:59:38 It has it's roles, solo PvP may not be, er, is not one of them. With it's bonus to scrambler/disruptor range it can be a good fleet/small gang tackler if that can keep you out of someone else's web or nos range. And it's cheap, relatively.
But you are right, it's DPS is horrible and you will die to most other inties (although some say it is better than an Ares). ------ sig |
Canaloney Soup
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Posted - 2010.01.14 13:05:00 -
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Looks ok to me
3.3 m/s 4k ehp 118 dps
[Lows] Damage Control II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
[Mids] 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Stasis Webifier II
[High] 3 Light Ion Blaster II
[Rigs] Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.01.14 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Canaloney Soup Looks ok to me
3.3 m/s 4k ehp 118 dps
[Lows] Damage Control II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
[Mids] 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Stasis Webifier II
[High] 3 Light Ion Blaster II
[Rigs] Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Is this fine? Any combat ceptors will do better than this.
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Kirzath
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2010.01.14 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Canaloney Soup Looks ok to me
3.3 m/s 4k ehp 118 dps
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I believe the Taranis is what you're looking for.
The Raptor is indeed terrible, every other tackle interceptor performs the role better than the Raptor. The Raptor is the slowest of them all to boot.
There's a reason why I have every Racial frigate to V except Caldari. All of their frigate hulls suck compared to the other races'.
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Sir Fourhead
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.01.14 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kirzath There's a reason why I have every Racial frigate to V except Caldari. All of their frigate hulls suck compared to the other races'.
Griffin. Please pardon the prissy overtones that will be found throughout this letter, but the reservoir from which CCP draws its lickspittles is primarily the masses of revolting enemies of the people. Let me |
Kirzath
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2010.01.14 13:52:00 -
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Griffin is the most annoying ship ever, I'm not going to endorse it
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Saul Kain
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Posted - 2010.01.14 14:31:00 -
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http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=6449458 ahem.
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.01.14 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Saul Kain http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=6449458 ahem.
Nice killing a poor vaga with a bad fit, still this is not the raptors intended role , tackling is, where it just plain worse than any other tackler ceptors. Btw possibly any other ceptor could kill this vaga it doesnt prove anything.
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2010.01.14 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Naomi Knight Raptor is clearly at disadvantage compared to other tackler interceptors.
How to fix this: -1 high slot +1 med slot,any reason why matar has a 4 mid slot ceptor and caldari dont? +pg to be able to fit those railguns up or shield extender,it clearly lacks pg just try to fit up one
Not sure for the PG, 75mm with spike actually hit stuff from edge of disruptor range thanks to the range bonus.
I use 3x75mm, mwd MSE point, MAPC nano x 2 and it makes a great tackler. It can take a bit of a beating, operate out of heavy neut range, have decent drone defense. Not the best to duel other inties but great fleet tackler, especially for the price. -- 081014 : emoragequit, char transfered to a friend, 090317 : back to original owner blog |
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2010.01.14 16:11:00 -
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So how is it clearly at a disadvantage vs a malediction? You know, the malediction, that ship with a bigger point range than targeting range, short range rocket dmg bonus, a lot easier to jam, that one?
Raptor is fine, sure it's not the best boat but it's not the worst if you fit it right.
Originally by: Lubomir Penev [..]
Not sure for the PG, 75mm with spike actually hit stuff from edge of disruptor range thanks to the range bonus.
I use 3x75mm, mwd MSE point, MAPC nano x 2 and it makes a great tackler. It can take a bit of a beating, operate out of heavy neut range, have decent drone defense. Not the best to duel other inties but great fleet tackler, especially for the price.
decent fit right there ^^
All the above is prolly crap Drone Guide
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.01.14 16:32:00 -
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Put the same fit onto the malediction ,it will have more ehp , more speed agility and smaller signature oh and more cap :) Yeah very balanced looking...
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Canaloney Soup
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Posted - 2010.01.14 18:13:00 -
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so no raptor fit suits you, so why bother with it just use another ceptor
Solo: Ranis, Claw & Sader Gang: Stilello & Ares
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.01.14 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Canaloney Soup so no raptor fit suits you, so why bother with it just use another ceptor
Solo: Ranis, Claw & Sader Gang: Stilello & Ares
Do you realy think that cross training is a solution,I don't think so.Why not just said to matar to crosstrain instead of boosting projectiles? Or only caldari should be forced to cross train? Why there are balancing fixes to the game, if ccp could just said: cross train .Then we would end up with most of the players fling the same ships. Cross training is only acceptable if you want to use different tactics/play style . Does raptor have anything special which wort it useing over the others , no? Lets give it one or boost it up to the other tackler ceptors lvl.
As caladri style is long range , why not double the range for the disruptor/scrambler/lock range for the raptor that would be acceptable for me.
Thats why raptor should be fixed.
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Yarinor
Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.14 18:53:00 -
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If only eve had a way to use different races ships on the same character so we could stop people *****ing like this because they feel something was imbalanced.
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.01.14 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Naomi Knight on 14/01/2010 18:57:41
Originally by: Yarinor If only eve had a way to use different races ships on the same character so we could stop people *****ing like this because they feel something was imbalanced.
If there would be a way to get rid of people like you eve would be a much better game.
Oh and learn to read. thx
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Torpir Lee
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.01.14 19:11:00 -
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[Raptor, Fleet SB Tackler] Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II Signal Amplifier II
1MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
75mm Gatling Rail II, Spike S 75mm Gatling Rail II, Spike S 75mm Gatling Rail II, Spike S Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
It's not terrible, but I would surely like to have more PG on it.
Not really meant for close range tackle, don't try to fit it that way.
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cal nereus
Cal Temp Agency
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Posted - 2010.01.14 19:26:00 -
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Odd. The only interceptor I used a year and a half ago was the Raptor. Clear Skies Day of Darkness |
Canaloney Soup
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Posted - 2010.01.14 21:00:00 -
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There 2 types of ceptor combat ceptor (crow) & tackler (raptor) why it got bonus to longer range point, i could show you a tackling fit but i can't be bothered.
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Sprilk
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Posted - 2010.01.14 23:54:00 -
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It has the best sensor strength (not resolution), making it slightly harder for your targets ecm drones to jam you while tackling... thats about the only advantage i can think of that it has over the other tackler ceptors...
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2010.01.15 00:42:00 -
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It is OK I guess. It goes quick and points.
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Kessiaan
Minmatar Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.15 02:42:00 -
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None of the tackle 'ceptors are particularly great solo ships. Some can be hedged into that role but the Raptor isn't one of them. I love my Ares to death but it does a whopping 0 DPS 99% of the time, and the other 1% of the time when it's shooting a pod my Velator does more DPS. Really.
The combat interceptors on the other hand you may have more luck with. The crow is really good, so is the Taranis if you want hybrids.
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Stuart Price
Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.01.15 05:33:00 -
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You can get workable fit including rails and MSE on a Raptor but it IS the worst of the tackle 'ceptors.
For me, the Malediction is easily the best for long range tackle, with the Stiletto running it close thanks to its ability to also pack a web in addition, for when the tackled target needs to moving slower.
The Ares I find solid but unspectacular (such is the base superiority of the Malediction hull - tougher, more agile, better anti-drone capacity, thought the Ares ends up with a higher top speed, longer lock range and a slightly faster lock).
Also: The Malediction just looks BADASS. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate' |
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