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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.01.14 20:29:00 -
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I require a total of 100 billion units of veldspar over a couple of months, delivery is not required, contact me for details.
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Kalos K'agathos
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.14 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix I require a total of 100 billion units of veldspar over a couple of months, delivery is not required, contact me for details.
I suggest you talk to Riethe in-game; I heard he has some fairly good contacts in the mineral market, maybe he can supply you with the veld
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Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.01.14 20:38:00 -
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Or maybe you can post this to the correct forum next time? Titan BPC Auction Thread |
flakeys
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.01.14 20:41:00 -
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THE joe phoenix?
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2010.01.14 20:46:00 -
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Veldspar... Does it have to be Veldspar what about Dense Veldspar?
Amarr for Life |
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.14 20:52:00 -
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Moved to Want Ads & Trades.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.01.15 00:56:00 -
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Yes the one and only Joe phoenix :)
and no it doesn't matter is its normal or dense.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.15 03:45:00 -
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So, how exactly do you plan to pay for this veldspar when you don't even have the money to avoid constantly being humiliated as the worst CEO in EVE?
Or is this just another of your desperate attempts to get attention? -----------
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Jerahl
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Posted - 2010.01.15 13:14:00 -
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WTF are you going to do with 100 billion veldspar?
I have problems deciding what to do with 1 billion Trit |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.01.16 01:20:00 -
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100 billion in 100m installations.
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Tsubassa
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Posted - 2010.01.17 01:21:00 -
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does it have to be in veldspar or can it be in tritanium and if so how much u offering for each unit.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.17 03:04:00 -
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Whining to the moderators to get my post deleted will not change the fact that:
1) You are the worst CEO in EVE, trapped under an eternal wardec. Not only does this mean you have zero ability to do any kind of industrial project safely (such as hauling all your new minerals), but if you actually had the money to pay for 100 billion units of veldspar, you could have easily resolved the war dec before it even started (whether by hiring an unstoppable mercenary army, or simply bribing us to go away).
2) There is no possible project that could require that much veldspar. And even if there was, you and your tiny little corp of newbies would not be able to do it.
Therefore this is a scam, and not even a very good one. -----------
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2010.01.17 03:47:00 -
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one hundred BILLION dollars!
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John B'dlam
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Posted - 2010.01.18 06:44:00 -
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Wait... I thought you had a supplier already? One who would get you the veldspar at 2.5 ISK p/u?
At least, that is what you told me when you rejected my offer of 9.5 ISK p/u.
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2010.01.18 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: John B'dlam Wait... I thought you had a supplier already? One who would get you the veldspar at 2.5 ISK p/u?
At least, that is what you told me when you rejected my offer of 9.5 ISK p/u.
I'm sorry, did you not Joe was one of the biggest liars in New Eden? Did you not know that he has lied constantly not only to his corporation members, but to the entire eve community, scamming and hurting many people in the process? If you did not know these things then you should read the official Joe Show post here. And here is the post that started it all here. Now sadly the moderators recently removed the link to the Zedrik Caynes blog because it includes many many chat logs between him and Joe that show his utter incompetence as a CEO and how his actions harm many. So you will most likely need to Google "Zedrik Cayne" and there you will see his blog. Might take you a while to read it all as this started back in September, and yet he still wont stop or resign. Go figure.
Before you do any dealings with the infamous Joe, you should really know who you are getting involved with. Oh, this is not the first time he has tried to buy or sell items here on the forums. Not to long ago he tried to sell something like 100 mining barges, when I (his director at the time) asked him about it he explained that he was planning on selling off his corp members barges by forcing them to hand them over (something I stopped thankfully) as well as some he "stock piled" (a total lie again), you know, for the good of the commonwealth and all that. This is just one of many examples you can find by reading the zedriks blog, and the forum links I posted above. You have been warned John B'dlam.
-Trok Mienal, The first Director of the I.C. who will never forget the harm Joe caused the members of the "commonwealth".
P.S. Joe, please resign! |
Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2010.01.18 12:07:00 -
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Just in case anyone was wondering, refining regular old Veldspar with perfect refining skills, and selling the Tritanium at 2.70 ISK, the value would be about 770 Billion ISK (according to evegeek) with a total weight of 10,000,000,000.00 m¦ (10 bil) unrefined and 2,852,852,850.00 m¦ (2.8 Bil) refined.
Now if you were transporting this ore raw like Joe is asking that's 10,192 trips flying a Charon with all related skills at level 5. If however you refined the ore yourself that would bring the number of trips down to only 2,908 flying a Charon with all related skills at level 5. If however you were just going to fill a single order of 100 Million Veldspar that's only 11 trips in a Charon with all related skills at level 5.
Remember this is the man that was saving his isk for a POS before he made an alliance. Yet he has enough ISK for an order like this? Surely anyone can clearly see Joe is not right in the head. This must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Joe is delusional to the point that he is a danger to himself and society. Or at the very least Joe's math skills are just as atrocious (that means of very poor quality Joe) as his spelling. Therefor I think CCP should forcibly remove Joe from his role as CEO because he is a such a danger to the game that the emotional damage he can cause other players is far far worse then any player in New Eden, and he will cause such damage that there will be a large spike in subscriptions due to pure frustration from interacting with Joe. This will of course hurt EVE's gaining of new subscriptions and may eventually lead to the end of New Eden! Please CCP I implore you, remove Joe as CEO and prevent the destruction of your wonderful game.
-T |
Maisonian
Amarr The Green Machine
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Posted - 2010.01.18 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS Veldspar... Does it have to be Veldspar what about Dense Veldspar?
Bolded the unintentional joke here.
Joe, how on earth you think that constant scams, broken promices and all-round general failure in the role of leadership is acceptible is beyond me. You would be well advised to turn leadership over to someone more capible (like a rock pehaps) and learn from their good example.
Also o/ Trok, hope all is well
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2010.01.18 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: Trok Mienal on 18/01/2010 14:51:37
Originally by: Maisonian
Originally by: SencneS Veldspar... Does it have to be Veldspar what about Dense Veldspar?
Bolded the unintentional joke here.
Joe, how on earth you think that constant scams, broken promices and all-round general failure in the role of leadership is acceptible is beyond me. You would be well advised to turn leadership over to someone more capible (like a rock pehaps) and learn from their good example.
Also o/ Trok, hope all is well
I have been fine, thanks for asking. Not on the forum much these days, but when I see Joe posting something, especially something this atrocious, I have to make a post. Feel free to pop me a message in game anytime. I spend a lot of time around the great wildlands these days. As for Joe, you must misunderstand. Its not so much that he "thinks" his actions are acceptable, its that he has a personal defect of some sort that makes him whole heartedly believe that what he does is just. So much so that even when he gos so far as to not only insult the few people who have tried to help him, but also feels its alright to insult peoples wives and young children using words that should disgust most people (read Zedriks blog).
Before Joe's failures became so well known, I offered many times to take over the Commonwealth and turn it into something respectable. I even was willing to let him stay as a member and give him a chance to shape up if he made me CEO. Of course he passed on the idea, and now it comes down to people like Zedrik and many others being forced to constantly attack him to not only prevent him from doing his job but hoping the constant attacks will get him to resign. Or I suppose it would be better to say they constantly attack him so that he is unable to focus on anything else and cause more damage to the poor souls that join his corporation due to Joe's deception. There is nothing more wrong in an MMO than tricking new players to join your corporation without telling them what your involved in and giving them no direction or guidance, or even basic help/reimbursement when a player kills them due to a war deceleration the new player was deliberately not informed about!
Just FYI Maisonian. Oh and I hope you are also doing well .
-T |
John B'dlam
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Posted - 2010.01.18 14:51:00 -
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Don't worry, Trok. I merely felt the need to inform the thread about Joe's dealings. Joe had contacted one of my corp mates on this, who then asked me to check the numbers.
Consider 333 dense veld == 1100 tritanium. Now consider 1 trit == 2.94 ISK (Jita value last time I checked) Now consider 2.94 * (1100 / 333) = 9.71 ISK per unit of dense veld.
Now consider that Joe wanted me to believe he already had a veldspar seller who took 2.5 ISK per unit, as one can apparently not sell as much veldspar as Joe is buying (he was skipping from 1 bil to 10 bil veld and back at the time) on the market in less than 2 months.
As I had a hint of what price Joe considered reasonable, I didn't feel it necessary to calculate if we could actually supply the order. I was more worried about the fact that Joe was trying to scam my corpmate, and is now trying to scam J. Random ForumReader.
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Trok Mienal
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Posted - 2010.01.18 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: John B'dlam Don't worry, Trok. I merely felt the need to inform the thread about Joe's dealings. Joe had contacted one of my corp mates on this, who then asked me to check the numbers.
Consider 333 dense veld == 1100 tritanium. Now consider 1 trit == 2.94 ISK (Jita value last time I checked) Now consider 2.94 * (1100 / 333) = 9.71 ISK per unit of dense veld.
Now consider that Joe wanted me to believe he already had a veldspar seller who took 2.5 ISK per unit, as one can apparently not sell as much veldspar as Joe is buying (he was skipping from 1 bil to 10 bil veld and back at the time) on the market in less than 2 months.
As I had a hint of what price Joe considered reasonable, I didn't feel it necessary to calculate if we could actually supply the order. I was more worried about the fact that Joe was trying to scam my corpmate, and is now trying to scam J. Random ForumReader.
Ah I understand, I misunderstood. I just wanted to ensure that another player, especially one that seems fairly nice, did not get taken in by another of Joe's many deceptions.
Fly Safe friend,
-T |
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Karadan Kaarwen
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Posted - 2010.01.18 16:33:00 -
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Not only is this buffoon asking for a ****ographic amount of Veldspar (obviously a scam) but he is also doing it from his normal account, not an alt.
The levels of stupidity actually physically hurt. Puppies are dying everywhere!
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w1ldt4ngent
SWARTA
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Posted - 2010.01.18 18:43:00 -
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This is probably another of Joe's stupid market ideas for making a ton of ISK. Funny how he always talks of how he makes so much money off trading the market (of course using his members to do all the hauling for him and pocketing the profits), but he has nothing to show for it.
My guess is he thinks he can buy veldspar cheap and refine it for profit. The Veldspar God himself has said before that this is a bad idea where you'll actually lose money, but Joe obviously missed the memo.
Anyone that does business dealings with Joe would be wise to ensure payment is made first, and in full. He is known for burning partners, corp members, and strangers alike. ___________________________ Swartans! Tonight we dine in Hek! |
Ore Farmer
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Ore Farmer on 22/01/2010 16:27:03 I think Ive seen this Joe guy around...for as many people that he has in his corp its amazing. Ive read the posts and logs on this guy...quite enjoyable to say the least.
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mr stare
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Posted - 2010.02.28 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ore Farmer Edited by: Ore Farmer on 22/01/2010 16:27:03 I think Ive seen this Joe guy around...for as many people that he has in his corp its amazing. Ive read the posts and logs on this guy...quite enjoyable to say the least.
As for the number of people in his corp, I have only seen 4-5 online of his 40+ members the last 3 weeks. 2 of these members are his alts, and If Im not mistaken, I think the other characters are from another account belong to Joe as well. In short he have no members to speak of. The last days he have cought up cash to form an alliance to hide in, so he can avoid the numerous war decs he have all the time. He is either buying a ****load of plexes or he have done a few trips to ebay to cover his expenses (see all the drakes he have lost latly).
He seems proud to be infamous. The problem is that his fame is based on his stupidity. |
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