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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10546
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Posted - 2012.06.25 08:05:00 -
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No but you see GOONS ARE BAD because Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
997
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:21:00 -
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I have no doubt that these events will put a degree of economic strain on the Republic.
And yet will the Shakorite leadership or the Elders bear any of that strain? I doubt it very much.
No, it will be the commoners who will suffer. They are already impoverished and things will only get worse for them if they remain in the Republic. The squalor will only get worse for them.
But there is another way.
Should any of them wish to take advantage of the SPCS' largesse, I will happily arrange an escort for them. At the SPCS they will be provided with food, shelter and the chance of a meaningful existence as well as a number of suitable leisure activities.
Remember: it's fun to stay at the SPCS.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
997
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:37:00 -
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Bradly Shepard wrote:The funny thing is, that others were doing this too. Not the the degree of the Gomnswarm Federation but still were doing it. Even the glorious and honourable Jade admitted to it in which she boasted she stole 8.7billion from the TLF.
My understanding is that Jade's philosophy requires an end to all of the major governments. So it would hardly be a surprise if she had been involved in an underhanded attempt to crash the economy of one of them.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
166
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:37:00 -
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It's true that the Republic is fraught with corruption on the higher levels and the common man and woman will suffer.
I only wish that more would see it for what it were.
Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10546
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Posted - 2012.06.25 12:09:00 -
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Admiral Blake, you inspire me. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2520
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Posted - 2012.06.25 13:31:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Bradly Shepard wrote:The funny thing is, that others were doing this too. Not the the degree of the Gomnswarm Federation but still were doing it. Even the glorious and honourable Jade admitted to it in which she boasted she stole 8.7billion from the TLF.
My understanding is that Jade's philosophy requires an end to all of the major governments. So it would hardly be a surprise if she had been involved in an underhanded attempt to crash the economy of one of them.
That level of rhetoric is certainly up there to your usual standard Blake. In this case however I can only claim responsibility for taking my share of payment (alongside several hundred other Militia auxillaries) for services apparently rendered to the Matari state. While I greatly enjoyed the opportunity to eliminate thousands of Amarrian Imperialist vessels and play a role in the liberation of dozens of systems from the yoke of slavery (and in the past have paid top isk to concord for the wardecs to enable) - it has been a definite eye-opener to be compensated so effectively for my time on this occasion .
The 8.7b isk that Goons mention was the value in Fleet Stabbers, Fleet Tempests and misc. equipment I selected from the Tribal Liberation store in return for services rendered. I hardly see this as "theft." And the bulk of this material will continue to be used against Amarrian interests in the warzone so I'm not sure the Republic has much to complain about on this occassion.
That a great many anti-amarrian fighters have received a similar "victory boon" since the warzone turned around and the 24th Crusade have been pressed to the limits of their remaining territory is a good thing for the liberation of the Matari people.
Perhaps the greatest irony yet to come is the rumoured investigations ongoing into goonswarm manipulations of the capsuleer markets that may yet conclude in removal of gains and punitive sanctions against that organization specifically - while doubtless allowing the heroic matari freedom-fighters of the TLF to continue enjoying their (well earned) current material advantage against the slavers.
If it turns out that Goonswarm (however inadvertently) managed to deliver cheap Fleet Stabbers into the hands of the heroes of the Matari people then perhaps they might have achieved one act worthy of the name in their history.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10547
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Posted - 2012.06.25 13:49:00 -
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No, Ms. Constantine, you've got it all wrong.
The goons are bad, because Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
998
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Posted - 2012.06.25 14:21:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:Bradly Shepard wrote:The funny thing is, that others were doing this too. Not the the degree of the Gomnswarm Federation but still were doing it. Even the glorious and honourable Jade admitted to it in which she boasted she stole 8.7billion from the TLF.
My understanding is that Jade's philosophy requires an end to all of the major governments. So it would hardly be a surprise if she had been involved in an underhanded attempt to crash the economy of one of them. That level of rhetoric is certainly up there to your usual standard Blake. In this case however I can only claim responsibility for taking my share of payment (alongside several hundred other Militia auxillaries) for services apparently rendered to the Matari state.
So you really were working directly for the Matari State and not trying to bring them down from within? What a long way you've come. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
638
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Posted - 2012.06.25 14:37:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote: The goons are bad, because
... their stated intention is to 'ruin New Eden for everyone else'?
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Major Killz
State Protectorate Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.06.25 14:57:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Jade ConstantineGÇö
If you and yours wish to fight the Right-Honourable GoonSwarm Federation of Space Planets in a CONCORD-sanctioned war in High-Security space, then why don't you and your coalition members simply join into a single capsuleer alliance? Doing so would allow you to pay a greatly reduced war fee.
On the other hand, if you wish to actually wage a meaningful war against the Right-Honourable GoonSwarm Federation of Space Planets, and by extension the Clusterfuck Coalition of Space Friends, then why don't you simply get a bunch of people in fleet and make your way towards our Sovereignty claims? I promise you, should your force make a direct attack against any of our Sovereignty infrastructure, the blind eyes presently paying you little mind would suddenly open, and you would be given opportunity to participate in as grand a campaign as your wallet, and your morale, could fund.
I would be the first to congratulate you on any victory you gain against our Sovereignty.
Loving Regards, Lyris GÖÑ Nairn
I agree with this statement. |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10547
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:10:00 -
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Thanks, space friend! Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
X Gallentius
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.06.25 15:48:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:If it turns out that Goonswarm (however inadvertently) managed to deliver cheap Fleet Stabbers into the hands of the heroes of the Matari people ..... I curse the Goonswarm Federation for adding a couple billion isk to my wallet during my brief stay in the Minmatar Militia. I am sure hundreds of current members in the Minmatar militia have been equally "persecuted" at the hands of those evil Goons. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10549
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Posted - 2012.06.25 16:36:00 -
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Peach it, Brother space friend! Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2524
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:04:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:Bradly Shepard wrote:The funny thing is, that others were doing this too. Not the the degree of the Gomnswarm Federation but still were doing it. Even the glorious and honourable Jade admitted to it in which she boasted she stole 8.7billion from the TLF.
My understanding is that Jade's philosophy requires an end to all of the major governments. So it would hardly be a surprise if she had been involved in an underhanded attempt to crash the economy of one of them. That level of rhetoric is certainly up there to your usual standard Blake. In this case however I can only claim responsibility for taking my share of payment (alongside several hundred other Militia auxillaries) for services apparently rendered to the Matari state. So you really were working directly for the Matari State and not trying to bring them down from within? What a long way you've come.
The Amarrian Empire needs to fall as a matter of priority for anybody who aspires to a future where individual sovereignity and freedom of association has meaning. For an anarchist individualist to take profit from one government while helping to destroy a more regressive one is hardly a stretch. Once the last Matari slave is freed from the Amarrian workcamps then we can talk about the problems with the Republic in earnest.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
438
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Posted - 2012.06.26 03:01:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote: The goons are bad, because
... their stated intention is to 'ruin New Eden for everyone else'?
Fortunately, they're--the vast majority of the rank-and-file that I've seen, anyway--too stupid, plus possessed of infantile attention-spans. Amongst their other infantile qualities.
The universe will take care of itself. It always does.
In irae, veritas. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10549
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Posted - 2012.06.26 06:52:00 -
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I've never found generalizations helpful. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
96
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Posted - 2012.06.26 16:11:00 -
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I heard that CONCORD reversed the payments made to the Goons? Join in game channel/mailing list: New Eden Racing Sub-warp racing event thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107164 |
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
127
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:39:00 -
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Che Biko wrote:I heard that CONCORD reversed the payments made to the Goons?
I've heard similar rumors, although no doubt with skilled infiltrators like the ones who executed this plan, no doubt they have been able to launder quite a bit of the illicit isk.
Is there a list of names of the involved capsuleers? |
Natalcya Katla
Naqam Shaktipat Revelators
2
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Posted - 2012.06.27 22:20:00 -
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What began as a disgusting game has clearly turned into a disgusting farce. I can only hope this scandal, and others like it, will bring us closer to a complete and final discontinuation of this entire sordid bloodsport. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
454
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Posted - 2012.07.01 05:43:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:I've never found generalizations helpful.
Then stop being the comically blatant archetype of so many, or at least be a bit more subtle about it.
That's the thing about a lot of stereotypes, see -- especially ones that are held in common by a large proportion of a group as heterogeneous as our so-lovely cluster's Egg-drivers:
They become so, because there is often at least a kernel of truth to them to many people.
In irae, veritas. |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10571
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:17:00 -
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If you believe me a blatant archetype of so many generalizations, then I think you are forming that opinion based on assumptions rather than the entire lack of interaction you've had with me. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor Federal Consensus Outreach
1076
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Posted - 2012.07.06 17:22:00 -
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It takes a very, very special kind of ******* idiot to make me sympathise with Jade Constantine while still holding the massive advantage of using less words than her. Mane 614
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William Nimitz
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.07.12 02:56:00 -
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I for one would be interested in hearing how this recent humiliation and economic disgrace upon the TLF has affected the State Protectorate and it's allies in the 24th imperial crusade. Also what is the Federation's position on this issue? "That is not to say that we can relax our readiness to defend ourselves. Our armament must be adequate to the needs, but our faith is not primarily in these machines of defense but in ourselves." - Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz
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