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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.20 07:11:00 -
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I am sorry Caleb, but letting Riethe run Eve's main trade channel is not a wise move. I have a chatroom that has existed since September. It has been strictly invites only until now. Some of the people in there include RAW23, Dretzle, Katiana Swan, Samroski, Mahke, Turiel Demon, and Ji Sama.
With this move from SCC-lounge I am opening up my channel for others that would like to frequent an alternative. Just convo me in game. We cannot offer the numbers that SCC-lounge has, but we talk trade all the time
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2010.01.20 07:24:00 -
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I'll be home in 7 hours or so. I'll be in touch for an invite.
And I endorse the op.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.20 07:35:00 -
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I've switched.
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Mme Pinkerton
Eschaton Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.20 07:46:00 -
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last time I checked the old scc-insider channel did still exist - don't know if Riethe is moderator there, too.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2010.01.20 07:51:00 -
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You guys taking your toys and your little red wagon home?
This is so hysterical. Cista, you're more immature than rawblood when he's screaming out obscenities and racial slurs at the top of his lungs.
If you want a "serious business trade channel" then have a "serious business trade channel." Just do it and have it. Don't make it seem like it's about me, or Caleb, or SCC.
Why try to act like it's more than that? Who's feelings are you trying to hurt by being so dramatic?
Do you expect Caleb to show up and go, "OH NO CISTA! We haven't seen you in the scc-lounge in months, please don't go! I take it all back! Riethe is banned!"
You admit you've already been running your own channel as it is, so I assume that explains your lack of presence in the lounge lately. I don't see how this changes much.
You're just screaming out with attention on this one and it's just hilarious.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2010.01.20 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Riethe You guys taking your toys and your little red wagon home?
This is so hysterical. Cista, you're more immature than rawblood when he's screaming out obscenities and racial slurs at the top of his lungs.
If you want a "serious business trade channel" then have a "serious business trade channel." Just do it and have it. Don't make it seem like it's about me, or Caleb, or SCC.
Why try to act like it's more than that? Who's feelings are you trying to hurt by being so dramatic?
Do you expect Caleb to show up and go, "OH NO CISTA! We haven't seen you in the scc-lounge in months, please don't go! I take it all back! Riethe is banned!"
You admit you've already been running your own channel as it is, so I assume that explains your lack of presence in the lounge lately. I don't see how this changes much.
You're just screaming out with attention on this one and it's just hilarious.
Trying to turn the argument around from it being about you, Caleb and SCC is just pathetic.
Own up to the fact that Caleb making you a moderator is what is making people lose faith in the lounge. Your recent couple of posts are nothing short of inflammatory and exactly what is wrong with the lounge today.
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Frenden Dax
Dax Acquisitions
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Posted - 2010.01.20 08:01:00 -
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Is it necessary for the two channels to compete? Riethe thinks it is apparently, but I don't see it as such.
What I see is more of a divergence of interests. SCC-Lounge caters to ... one type of individual, and Cista's channel caters to another type. Those who are dissatisfied with the evolution of SCC-Lounge can switch channels, while those who enjoy it need do nothing more than stay where they are.
There's no need to troll here or engage in verbal attacks.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.20 08:03:00 -
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After some deliberation I am giving the channel name free. The channel is called "Signatures"
Setrakdark and Frenden Dax have agreed to be among the moderators.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2010.01.20 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista Own up to the fact that Caleb making you a moderator is what is making people lose faith in the lounge. Your recent couple of posts are nothing short of inflammatory and exactly what is wrong with the lounge today.
"Faith in the lounge"?
It's not a religion. It's just a hang out, man.
Also, making it "about me" or whatever.. Look at Cista's title for crying out loud. He made this about me.
Originally by: Frenden Dax Is it necessary for the two channels to compete? Riethe thinks it is apparently, but I don't see it as such.
I never said anything about competition. I spoke of an all-inclusive channel that cista wants to compete with. What's your beef?
Originally by: Frenden Dax There's no need to troll here or engage in verbal attacks.
No, apparently the only thing to do here is make passive-aggressive remarks and only subtlety attack each other.
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Ladani
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Posted - 2010.01.20 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Riethe You guys taking your toys and your little red wagon home?
This is so hysterical. Cista, you're more immature than rawblood when he's screaming out obscenities and racial slurs at the top of his lungs.
Whoa, the emorage is strong with this one!
Some people don't want a known scammer such as yourself Riethe to have moderator rights over a channel they are in. Simple as. Don't go pounding your head on the keyboard over it. You might get a bruise.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2010.01.20 08:33:00 -
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Someone posting on an alt again.
Good work. It really emphasizes your opinion when you post from multiple characters.
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Ladani
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Posted - 2010.01.20 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Riethe Someone posting on an alt again.
Good work. It really emphasizes your opinion when you post from multiple characters.
No, emorage is clearly the way to emphasize your opinion. The kind of you sad insults you threw at Cista really did the job.
I own around 15 accounts so if you want me to post on my main you have to specify which one.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2010.01.20 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ladani I own around 15 accounts so if you want me to post on my main you have to specify which one.
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.01.20 09:37:00 -
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Good call Cista, SCC-Lounge went from "no scamming" to "a scammer runs the show". Thanks, but no thanks. |
Riethe
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Posted - 2010.01.20 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Donai Good call Cista, SCC-Lounge went from "no scamming" to "a scammer runs the show". Thanks, but no thanks.
I am just a regular participant like everyone else.
I don't run anything.
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Lord Arbalest
Amarr Zero Profits
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Posted - 2010.01.20 10:21:00 -
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Thanks for opening the channel up Cista
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Veevi Fenikusu
Minmatar TETN
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Posted - 2010.01.20 11:01:00 -
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To repeat myself!
I just don't see what benefit riethe's position as a moderator has, people that don't mind his presence are not gonna be a sad panda when he steps down, and it'll keep the people that do mind happy, which seems, win win to me.
Maybe this channel evolved into something some didn't want it to, but I'm afraid this will just push it further into one direction & scare other off.
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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
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Posted - 2010.01.20 11:27:00 -
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Thanks for opening that channel, Cista2. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager |
Ryoko Yoshida
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.01.20 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Ryoko Yoshida on 20/01/2010 11:38:02 Some people really need to get over themselves.
Cista2, good initiative on another chat room and I fully endorse it. only so much can be said by so many people, so spreading the load is a genius idea. What is not a genius idea, is blaming Caleb, Riethe and the Lounge for this move. It was a good idea before any of this happened (aforementioned conversational noise to signal balancing).
The fact that so many of you are having what seems to be physical cold/hot flushes at the mere presence of Riethe makes me shake my head in shame at this community. You play a game, the SCC ISNT an IPO (lol) opening mechanism, we dont sanction or audit anything as an entity, and all we do is provide advice on ALL aspects of trading (yes including scam avoidance, which Riethe is well known to be an expert on inflicting, and thus a natural advisor on prevention).
Basically put, we're a chat room that strives to be more constructive than the norm. And guess why that has dropped recently? Various 'MD elite' individuals pulling head from financial sand to cause trouble. Hmm seems the bankers, brokers and fat cats really are the problem in this world.
Get over yourselves. Your digital currency and basement rep mean nothing to the people who play this game for enjoyment and fellowship.
Ryoko -------------------- This is where my sig is meant to begin... |
satane
Amarr EVE Corporation49487
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Posted - 2010.01.20 11:44:00 -
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will be joining shortly, thank you cista2 for the alternative Sex, |
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Veevi Fenikusu
Minmatar TETN
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Posted - 2010.01.20 11:48:00 -
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"yes including scam avoidance, which Riethe is well known to be an expert on inflicting, and thus a natural advisor on prevention" That's bit turning it upside down, ey?
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Ryoko Yoshida
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.01.20 11:53:00 -
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In the IT industry atleast, Blackhats frequently make good Cyber Security consultants after rehabilitation.
As Riethe is a well known scammer, his scam potential is low. Should he abuse SCC mod privileges, he will be dismissed.
As his scam potential is now negligible and the profit to loss is no longer efficient, the risk is agreeable. His experience can then be utilised for socially 'acceptable' tuition and advice.
Your turn. -------------------- This is where my sig is meant to begin... |
Veevi Fenikusu
Minmatar TETN
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Posted - 2010.01.20 11:56:00 -
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ah yes, sorry, I missed the posts where riethe stated he rehabilitated & is a good citizen now!
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Ryoko Yoshida
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.01.20 12:01:00 -
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Learn to read.
His inability to scam is the well known nature of his scammer past, our willingness, some woudl say eagerness to pass that info on, and the fact that as a result there is only chump change to be made.
Good citizen he may not be, but his inability to inflict harm makes it a fools choice not to harness that former capacity to educate newcomers in avoidance of said scams.
We discuss all aspects of marketing, and we're in a wild west economy in this game. Swindles abound, and suckers are plenty. Why not have an old, now ineffective (due to bad rep) rogue inform on basic scam avoidance?
I know I have found this very enlightening.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2010.01.20 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoko Yoshida
His inability to scam is the well known nature of his scammer past
Yet if you read his site, and Sugarjug's post, he is STILL scamming.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2010.01.20 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Veevi Fenikusu ah yes, sorry, I missed the posts where riethe stated he rehabilitated & is a good citizen now!
You didn't miss it--it was never posted.
Being a good citizen in the scc-lounge is part of the "community service" in the channel.
In addition to that, take a glance at my posting history using eve-search. I take a great deal of interest in spotting other scammers and helping expose any information that might be useful to investors.
This isn't for any specific reason other than it is fun playing detective.
Plus, as Ryoko said: Both honest and dishonest people can bring perspectives that are beneficial to everyone. The majority of the time, I make a pretty serious effort at being constructive.
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Veevi Fenikusu
Minmatar TETN
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Posted - 2010.01.20 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoko Yoshida Learn to read. His inability to scam is the well known nature of his scammer past, our willingness, some woudl say eagerness to pass that info on, and the fact that as a result there is only chump change to be made.
That's just where I don't agree, if you read his site, you see people go like "oh, yes, you're good now, I can trust you". Yes, it's a stupid analogy to make, but people fall for it. I find it confusing you're promoting him as an advisor to avoid scams.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2010.01.20 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Veevi Fenikusu That's just where I don't agree, if you read his site, you see people go like "oh, yes, you're good now, I can trust you". Yes, it's a stupid analogy to make, but people fall for it. I find it confusing you're promoting him as an advisor to avoid scams.
"You're good now" in reference to what? You make no sense. No one has been scammed since I've become a moderator.
There is no reference for what you're saying.
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flakeys
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.01.20 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: flakeys on 20/01/2010 13:11:47
Originally by: Ryoko Yoshida Learn to read.
His inability to scam is the well known nature of his scammer past, our willingness, some woudl say eagerness to pass that info on, and the fact that as a result there is only chump change to be made.
Good citizen he may not be, but his inability to inflict harm makes it a fools choice not to harness that former capacity to educate newcomers in avoidance of said scams.
We discuss all aspects of marketing, and we're in a wild west economy in this game. Swindles abound, and suckers are plenty. Why not have an old, now ineffective (due to bad rep) rogue inform on basic scam avoidance?
I know I have found this very enlightening.
You are really REALLY funny dude.
At least 2 people in the SCC lounge channel have been scammed by him when they where in the SCC chanel.From one riethe had logs and all posted on his scam site.
Let's try and get ricdic/manalapan/xabier/curzon also in SCC and make them mod.Should make investments rock solid in the future then according to your way of thinking right?How we will laugh in anyone trying to scam us in the future wich such a back up muahahahaaa ....
Originally by: Riethe
Originally by: Veevi Fenikusu That's just where I don't agree, if you read his site, you see people go like "oh, yes, you're good now, I can trust you". Yes, it's a stupid analogy to make, but people fall for it. I find it confusing you're promoting him as an advisor to avoid scams.
"You're good now" in reference to what? You make no sense. No one has been scammed since I've become a moderator.
There is no reference for what you're saying.
The fact you even became a moderator of a channel where people hang out who recently got scammed by you hang out for market talks/tips and also on investments should be enough reason for everyone to dismiss this channel as dead appart from keeping/seeing it as a general chatbox.
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Veevi Fenikusu
Minmatar TETN
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Posted - 2010.01.20 13:26:00 -
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Edited by: Veevi Fenikusu on 20/01/2010 13:31:03
Originally by: Riethe
Originally by: Veevi Fenikusu That's just where I don't agree, if you read his site, you see people go like "oh, yes, you're good now, I can trust you". Yes, it's a stupid analogy to make, but people fall for it. I find it confusing you're promoting him as an advisor to avoid scams.
"You're good now" in reference to what? You make no sense. No one has been scammed since I've become a moderator.
There is no reference for what you're saying.
Stop dancing,I wasn't stating that you scammed him because of you being a moderator, but who says you won't abuse it in the future?
edit: you being a moderator => your status as a moderator
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