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Caleb Fury
Amarr Did I just do that Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.21 23:22:00 -
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I've been away from the game for a while and have come back to find that WI and Majesta are losing space. Now this is all fine and well, but it turns out WI is losing stuffz due to Morsus wanting moons? I know there is some unspoken rule that, because I'm in the NC, I am not to be critical of the NC happenings, but if this alliance lost stuff over moons, it makes me wonder what the hell I'm logging in to fight for.
If I were getting relocated to Pure Blind, I would have to seriously pause and ask myself why. Also, I wonder how long before Majesta gets a clue. Then again, I am wondering where my clue is atm.
I will go ahead and don my flame suit for all of my fellow NC'ers who are gonna light up intel now and call me a spy. I'm not one for flinging poo, its just that I find it frightening that entire blue alliances can be fell and sacrificed over something like moons. I WOULD NOT be consoled just having to get up and move. WI seemed like pretty chill guys. I would just like to know what exactly happened.
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Sergeant Justice
Minmatar Raptus Regalitor Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.01.21 23:28:00 -
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TRI/CO2/ATLAS/SOLAR Happened. I just found this space. And now I will use it to portray various graphic messages...verbally. Sooner or later. |

Shosin Tamaka
Gallente Unknown-Entity Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.01.21 23:30:00 -
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Sounds like a firm grasp of the situation.
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Caleb Fury
Amarr Did I just do that Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.21 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Shosin Tamaka Sounds like a firm grasp of the situation.
I don't really know what happening tbh. 
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Mr Macawesome
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.21 23:46:00 -
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God i love TNT. You guys were p. cool dudes in the south but you stuck by your guns and continued to back the NC and lost your space because of it. You were even backstabed by the goons and members of the NC when you tried to help them fight us and instead used you for easy kills while still under the blue flag.
You are loyal to your friends to a fault but that has some honor in it someway. You smaller alliances should take a step back and look at the current and past situations of the north. They will use you as a meatshield trying to bleed their enemy out before they can reach MM or Razor space. After all your sacrifices that you make for their defense, and assuming they will stop this invasion, you will be left with nothing. They will not give or help you get your space and moon goo back. This has all happened before and will happen again.
ME, MH, Rage and tnt along with others; its time to stop letting yourself be used. Remove yourselves from this war. No one is asking you to take up arms against your former friends but we do ask you to step aside for our grudge is not with you. Talk to a diplomat from one of the southern alliances who can help you leave the north and find a new home in the south if you desire.
The NC no longer stands for what it used to be. It is now all about greed and moon goo. The North will burn. There is no reason you should pay for the sins of Razor and MM. No matter what you decide i wish you good luck and would like to take a moment to say good fight to WI. They deserved better and should not have been sold out and left for dead. I hope you all realize like C02 and The Initiative did and choose the right path.
Good luck and please seriously think about what i said today. This is not propaganda, i was in your same shoes 2 years ago and i don't want to see the same thing happened to you that happened to me.
Official Derek Chu fanatic
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Callum545
Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.21 23:51:00 -
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Edited by: Callum545 on 21/01/2010 23:53:38 Confirming my butt and mouth and hands are imperians, phreezes and hinatas meat shield
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Dr Ngo
Amarr Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.01.21 23:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Mr Macawesome God i love TNT. You guys were p. cool dudes in the south but you stuck by your guns and continued to back the NC and lost your space because of it. You were even backstabed by the goons and members of the NC when you tried to help them fight us and instead used you for easy kills while still under the blue flag.
You are loyal to your friends to a fault but that has some honor in it someway. You smaller alliances should take a step back and look at the current and past situations of the north. They will use you as a meatshield trying to bleed their enemy out before they can reach MM or Razor space. After all your sacrifices that you make for their defense, and assuming they will stop this invasion, you will be left with nothing. They will not give or help you get your space and moon goo back. This has all happened before and will happen again.
ME, MH, Rage and tnt along with others; its time to stop letting yourself be used. Remove yourselves from this war. No one is asking you to take up arms against your former friends but we do ask you to step aside for our grudge is not with you. Talk to a diplomat from one of the southern alliances who can help you leave the north and find a new home in the south if you desire.
The NC no longer stands for what it used to be. It is now all about greed and moon goo. The North will burn. There is no reason you should pay for the sins of Razor and MM. No matter what you decide i wish you good luck and would like to take a moment to say good fight to WI. They deserved better and should not have been sold out and left for dead. I hope you all realize like C02 and The Initiative did and choose the right path.
Good luck and please seriously think about what i said today. This is not propaganda, i was in your same shoes 2 years ago and i don't want to see the same thing happened to you that happened to me.
I cried at the first paragraph 
Seriously though, I agree with this. Smaller, less elite alliances (read pets) like TNT, WI and ME tend to attract a lot of people who are new to the game, pvp, or even just 0.0. They tend to not be so jaded and genuinely just want to get as much fun out of the game as possible. I enjoy playing with people who are good at the game and being a part of massive fleet lag battles that change and influence eve, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I wasn't a bit nostalgic for the times I spent in smaller alliances. Too bad the nc had to institute that "**** everybody but rzr, mm and tcf" policy. Entertaining though.
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Nostradamous
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.21 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Macawesome God i love TNT.You guys were p. cool dudes in the south but you stuck by your guns and continued to back the NC and lost your space because of it. You were even backstabed by the goons and members of the NC when you tried to help them fight us and instead used you for easy kills while still under the blue flag. You are loyal to your friends to a fault but that has some honor in it someway. You smaller alliances should take a step back and look at the current and past situations of the north. They will use you as a meatshield trying to bleed their enemy out before they can reach MM or Razor space. After all your sacrifices that you make for their defense, and assuming they will stop this invasion, you will be left with nothing. They will not give or help you get your space and moon goo back. This has all happened before and will happen again.
ME, MH, Rage and tnt along with others; its time to stop letting yourself be used. Remove yourselves from this war. No one is asking you to take up arms against your former friends but we do ask you to step aside for our grudge is not with you. Talk to a diplomat from one of the southern alliances who can help you leave the north and find a new home in the south if you desire.
The NC no longer stands for what it used to be. It is now all about greed and moon goo. The North will burn. There is no reason you should pay for the sins of Razor and MM. No matter what you decide i wish you good luck and would like to take a moment to say good fight to WI. They deserved better and should not have been sold out and left for dead. I hope you all realize like C02 and The Initiative did and choose the right path.
Good luck and please seriously think about what i said today. This is not propaganda, i was in your same shoes 2 years ago and i don't want to see the same thing happened to you that happened to me.
Whole heartedly agree
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Caleb Fury
Amarr Did I just do that Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.22 00:16:00 -
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Oh wow. I would like to just say thanks to everyone for keeping the thread civil.
Yes, Nostradamus, I came to 00 apart of TnT, because I wanted to experience 00 life and understand a new part of the game. Someone mentioned loyalty and I have more of a loyalty to my corp than anything else. I have been with these guys for most my Eve time and we have all had a blast.
My issue however is that, because of what I know the situation to be, a lot of us newer players are very bummed out and morale up in Deklein isn't the highest. We rat or mission all day to afford a cool new ship, then realize that the best proposition is really to bring a COMPLETE T1 fit geddon to a CTA because there is little reason to convince many to give their best.
Spaceholding is cool and all that, however, I am really motivated by just the prospect of fighting. I don't care about IHUBS or whatever else is supposed to make 00 special, I come for the idea that perhaps I am fighting for something more.
Then I take stock of my surroundings and begin to ponder if my will to fight is being used an an instrument to pad someone else's pocket with moon-goo.
It is my honest noob conviction that TCF, MM, RzR> Everyone Else. I don't know if its supposed to be that way, and I am inclined to think that its because we don't have huge cap fleets or something.
The fact still stands however: I am genuinely afraid. I am a newer player and I could lose everything over a Tech moon. Why should fly something expensive again.
I also had no idea that TnT has had this happen to them before. So I guess it really isn't anything new. So unfair that we let ourselves get trampled all over... Something needs to give.
PS- I'm prolly gonna get asked to leave my alliance now. This is how I honestly feel tho. 
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Bedrock
Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Fury I've been away from the game for a while and have come back to find that WI and Majesta are losing space. Now this is all fine and well, but it turns out WI is losing stuffz due to Morsus wanting moons? I know there is some unspoken rule that, because I'm in the NC, I am not to be critical of the NC happenings, but if this alliance lost stuff over moons, it makes me wonder what the hell I'm logging in to fight for.
If I were getting relocated to Pure Blind, I would have to seriously pause and ask myself why. Also, I wonder how long before Majesta gets a clue. Then again, I am wondering where my clue is atm.
I will go ahead and don my flame suit for all of my fellow NC'ers who are gonna light up intel now and call me a spy. I'm not one for flinging poo, its just that I find it frightening that entire blue alliances can be fell and sacrificed over something like moons. I WOULD NOT be consoled just having to get up and move. WI seemed like pretty chill guys. I would just like to know what exactly happened.
What do you mean you guys have 84% efficiency against us were been rolled s0n
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Caleb Fury
Amarr Did I just do that Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.22 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Bedrock
Originally by: Caleb Fury I've been away from the game for a while and have come back to find that WI and Majesta are losing space. Now this is all fine and well, but it turns out WI is losing stuffz due to Morsus wanting moons? I know there is some unspoken rule that, because I'm in the NC, I am not to be critical of the NC happenings, but if this alliance lost stuff over moons, it makes me wonder what the hell I'm logging in to fight for.
If I were getting relocated to Pure Blind, I would have to seriously pause and ask myself why. Also, I wonder how long before Majesta gets a clue. Then again, I am wondering where my clue is atm.
I will go ahead and don my flame suit for all of my fellow NC'ers who are gonna light up intel now and call me a spy. I'm not one for flinging poo, its just that I find it frightening that entire blue alliances can be fell and sacrificed over something like moons. I WOULD NOT be consoled just having to get up and move. WI seemed like pretty chill guys. I would just like to know what exactly happened.
What do you mean you guys have 84% efficiency against us were been rolled s0n
I afraid I know nothing of efficiencies. I haven't seen the TnT killboard in something approaching two months. It still stands however that it makes for a very strange circumstance to feel as if we could be sent to slaughter over a damn moon.
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Boppi
Amarr Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.01.22 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Boppi on 22/01/2010 00:26:35 Edited by: Boppi on 22/01/2010 00:26:12 I hope you enjoy your next alliance son, because making this post sure wont help staying in your presten one.
Quote: . (00:24:22) rawr-imperian: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.as ... ID=1254953 (00:24:25) rawr-imperian: lol (00:24:31) rawr-imperian: best example of a stupid grunt (00:25:04) rawr-hinata: lol (00:25:05) rawr-hinata: or a spy (00:25:31) me-tekai-foo: did nobody tell him that we're all merging into MM? (00:25:38) rawr-hinata: prolly a dumb grunt tough (00:25:50) rawr-hinata: Yea the doghouse has been all setup for yall (00:25:54) rawr-hinata: MJI Pet Daycare (00:25:56) rawr-hinata: :D (00:26:29) rawr-hinata: J-Gamp Majesta Refugee Camp (00:26:37) rawr-hinata: :D (00:28:03) rawr-hinata: RZR is opening refugee camps for WI (00:29:01) wi-callum545: \o/ (00:29:09) wi-callum545: dop we get free meals (00:29:14) wi-callum545: do* (00:29:53) rawr-imperian: WI you ***gots (00:30:08) rawr-imperian: you lost geminate because I needed tech moons to replace my titan (00:30:14) rawr-hinata: C (00:30:17) rawr-imperian: true story, read it on CAOD (00:30:19) rawr-hinata: My titan is in build as we speak (00:30:22) rawr-hinata: Tia~~ (00:30:27) wi-callum545: really lol (00:30:34) ***wi-callum545 goes to troll caod (00:30:40) rawr-hinata: Big bad Morsus Mihi (00:30:47) rawr-hinata: Let WI and now ME die (00:30:50) rawr-hinata: to get Tech Moons (00:30:52) rawr-hinata: True story (00:31:09) rawr-imperian: yes, let atlas take over ME techmoons so I can retake them later to build a supercarrier fleet (00:31:17) rawr-imperian: ohwait, wrong channel (00:31:37) rawr-imperian: It isnt as it looked like ! Majesta, please believe me ! (00:31:47) rawr-hinata: Imperian! (00:31:50) rawr-hinata: Look what you did! (00:32:25) rawr-imperian: Don't cry daddy, daddy please dont cry, together we will find a brandnew mommy (00:32:55) rawr-hinata: No you ruined it! (00:33:03) wi-callum545: imperian (00:33:11) wi-callum545: then u can buy me an aeon :p (00:33:27) rawr-imperian: you need to join MM first, because only MM overlords get supercarriers (00:33:36) wi-callum545: lol (00:33:51) wi-callum545: join for a day leave rejoin wi (A) (00:33:51) rawr-hinata: C (00:34:05) rawr-hinata: Your pets you don't get expensive toy (00:34:08) rawr-hinata: Get it right (00:34:24) rawr-imperian: WI is dead (00:34:27) wi-callum545: C (00:34:31) rg-junior-svk: u are dead (00:34:38) wi-callum545: we lost GLD thee "premier pvp corp"
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Endeva
Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 00:38:00 -
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finally some truth in coad. btw that chat log is   i would like to have allies like that:DD
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Ilsea
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.22 01:01:00 -
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Quote: (01:08:20) rawr_vuk_lau: btw (01:08:24) rawr_vuk_lau: i need your help (01:08:27) rawr_vuk_lau: its serious (01:08:39) rawr_vuk_lau: imperian offered me his oldest sister for one more avatar (01:08:44) rawr_vuk_lau: now the problem is (01:08:47) rawr_vuk_lau: that she is hot (01:09:08) rawr_vuk_lau: how can I explain my wife that I can love 2 women? (01:09:14) rawr_vuk_lau: dbrb can u help me? (01:09:32) dabigredboat: help with what? (01:09:44) dabigredboat: tell her its a gift for her (01:09:49) dabigredboat: and offer to share the gift (01:09:57) rawr_vuk_lau: well my wife likes 3somes (01:10:04) dabigredboat: there you go (01:10:08) rawr_vuk_lau: but I am afraid i will fall in love in imps sister (01:10:19) rawr_vuk_lau: till now it was all my wifes girlfriends (01:10:21) rawr_vuk_lau: no emotions (01:10:29) rawr_vuk_lau: only pure sex
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Caleb Fury
Amarr Did I just do that Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.22 01:03:00 -
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I know its just a game. I do however take a little offense to being called a "dumb grunt". I know nothing of the character of anyone in Morsus Mihi, so I would never make such a comment about anyone. If said chatlogs are indeed true, then I see that the elitist attitude is shared by more than just elements in TCF.
I was informed today that I was banned from posting on the forums. I found it strange if only for the simple fact that: 1.) Last I checked, I paid 15 bux per month that I earned (I don't carebear enough for PLEX) 2.) I'm an adult and I take care of me.
I would hate to feel as if I am adversely affecting anyones play time in TnT. I sign in only to have fun. Already I have had to sign outta my main because of the intense flames I've gotten thus far. I see why people scam and ninja-salvage now and I think it has mostly to do with the amount of baseless rage that gets showered towards them. There are few things more amazing than hearing a grown-ass man on TS rage about his internet politics.
So I got the answer I was looking for and and I would like to extend a thank you to all of the people who were so helpful in TnT and all of the awesome fights had. Also a thank you to Boppi and a few others who were willing to be honest with a newer character and not give me the spin.
I had my first real taste of 00 and I have some very mixed feelings now. I will dropping roles and taking a break for a while to reassess the next step in the game for me.
No I'm not leaving Eve, and no you can't have my stuffz.
I wish everyone in TnT, WI, and Majesta the very best luck. Eve is a game, and always play for the most fun that can be had and always keep in mind that the idea is that YOU are supposed to make a difference. To all the elitist, I wish some of you would chill out.
Internet spaceships......
Best Regards -Caleb Fury.
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Tung Yoggi
Gallente Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 01:09:00 -
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You got it all wrong, you ASKED A SERIOUS QUESTION ON CAOD.
Hint: the Northern Nerds are being invaded by some Southern Nerds & Former Northern Nerds, so you have to fight for your space, along with your allies, some might failcascade in the process, blah blah. It could be really fun if there wasn't this lag issue, but you might get some great fights. Have fun pewpewing.
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kra torii
Minmatar United Systems Navy Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.22 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Fury I know its just a game. I do however take a little offense to being called a "dumb grunt". I know nothing of the character of anyone in Morsus Mihi, so I would never make such a comment about anyone. If said chatlogs are indeed true, then I see that the elitist attitude is shared by more than just elements in TCF.
I was informed today that I was banned from posting on the forums. I found it strange if only for the simple fact that: 1.) Last I checked, I paid 15 bux per month that I earned (I don't carebear enough for PLEX) 2.) I'm an adult and I take care of me.
I would hate to feel as if I am adversely affecting anyones play time in TnT. I sign in only to have fun. Already I have had to sign outta my main because of the intense flames I've gotten thus far. I see why people scam and ninja-salvage now and I think it has mostly to do with the amount of baseless rage that gets showered towards them. There are few things more amazing than hearing a grown-ass man on TS rage about his internet politics.
So I got the answer I was looking for and and I would like to extend a thank you to all of the people who were so helpful in TnT and all of the awesome fights had. Also a thank you to Boppi and a few others who were willing to be honest with a newer character and not give me the spin.
I had my first real taste of 00 and I have some very mixed feelings now. I will dropping roles and taking a break for a while to reassess the next step in the game for me.
No I'm not leaving Eve, and no you can't have my stuffz.
I wish everyone in TnT, WI, and Majesta the very best luck. Eve is a game, and always play for the most fun that can be had and always keep in mind that the idea is that YOU are supposed to make a difference. To all the elitist, I wish some of you would chill out.
Internet spaceships......
Best Regards -Caleb Fury.
This is the best post I've ever seen in CAOD.
Good luck to you man, and I hope things work out.
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Vuk Lau
Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.22 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ilsea
Quote: (01:08:20) rawr_vuk_lau: btw (01:08:24) rawr_vuk_lau: i need your help (01:08:27) rawr_vuk_lau: its serious (01:08:39) rawr_vuk_lau: imperian offered me his oldest sister for one more avatar (01:08:44) rawr_vuk_lau: now the problem is (01:08:47) rawr_vuk_lau: that she is hot (01:09:08) rawr_vuk_lau: how can I explain my wife that I can love 2 women? (01:09:14) rawr_vuk_lau: dbrb can u help me? (01:09:32) dabigredboat: help with what? (01:09:44) dabigredboat: tell her its a gift for her (01:09:49) dabigredboat: and offer to share the gift (01:09:57) rawr_vuk_lau: well my wife likes 3somes (01:10:04) dabigredboat: there you go (01:10:08) rawr_vuk_lau: but I am afraid i will fall in love in imps sister (01:10:19) rawr_vuk_lau: till now it was all my wifes girlfriends (01:10:21) rawr_vuk_lau: no emotions (01:10:29) rawr_vuk_lau: only pure sex
This is obviously faked. I would never ask for sexual advice related to women a goon who is famous for touching other goon peenis. Btw can someone post the link to that picture, somehow I didnt bookmarked it.
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Palmer Eldritch
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.22 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Fury I know its just a game. I do however take a little offense to being called a "dumb grunt". I know nothing of the character of anyone in Morsus Mihi, so I would never make such a comment about anyone. If said chatlogs are indeed true, then I see that the elitist attitude is shared by more than just elements in TCF.
I was informed today that I was banned from posting on the forums. I found it strange if only for the simple fact that: 1.) Last I checked, I paid 15 bux per month that I earned (I don't carebear enough for PLEX) 2.) I'm an adult and I take care of me.
I would hate to feel as if I am adversely affecting anyones play time in TnT. I sign in only to have fun. Already I have had to sign outta my main because of the intense flames I've gotten thus far. I see why people scam and ninja-salvage now and I think it has mostly to do with the amount of baseless rage that gets showered towards them. There are few things more amazing than hearing a grown-ass man on TS rage about his internet politics.
So I got the answer I was looking for and and I would like to extend a thank you to all of the people who were so helpful in TnT and all of the awesome fights had. Also a thank you to Boppi and a few others who were willing to be honest with a newer character and not give me the spin.
I had my first real taste of 00 and I have some very mixed feelings now. I will dropping roles and taking a break for a while to reassess the next step in the game for me.
No I'm not leaving Eve, and no you can't have my stuffz.
I wish everyone in TnT, WI, and Majesta the very best luck. Eve is a game, and always play for the most fun that can be had and always keep in mind that the idea is that YOU are supposed to make a difference. To all the elitist, I wish some of you would chill out.
Internet spaceships......
Best Regards -Caleb Fury.
Do let us know how it all works out for you and how you're feeling about things in future. I just hope TNT is okay without you.
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Kitano
Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 02:12:00 -
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10/10 well said Caleb... I enjoyed reading this.
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Sareita Nebula
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Palmer Eldritch
Do let us know how it all works out for you and how you're feeling about things in future. I just hope TNT is okay without you.
Right... Lets ridicule someone who use his brain, have a free will and didn't wont to be exploited over nothing, like a mindless bee in a hive for a completely random example. --
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squishinator
Gallente Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.22 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Boppi Edited by: Boppi on 22/01/2010 01:18:57 Edited by: Boppi on 22/01/2010 01:13:00
I hope you enjoy your next alliance son, because making this post sure wont help staying in your present one.
Quote: . (00:24:22) rawr-imperian: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1254953 (00:24:25) rawr-imperian: lol (00:24:31) rawr-imperian: best example of a stupid grunt (00:25:04) rawr-hinata: lol (00:25:05) rawr-hinata: or a spy (00:25:31) me-tekai-foo: did nobody tell him that we're all merging into MM? (00:25:38) rawr-hinata: prolly a dumb grunt tough (00:25:50) rawr-hinata: Yea the doghouse has been all setup for yall (00:25:54) rawr-hinata: MJI Pet Daycare (00:25:56) rawr-hinata: :D (00:26:29) rawr-hinata: J-Gamp Majesta Refugee Camp (00:26:37) rawr-hinata: :D (00:28:03) rawr-hinata: RZR is opening refugee camps for WI (00:29:01) wi-callum545: \o/ (00:29:09) wi-callum545: dop we get free meals (00:29:14) wi-callum545: do* (00:29:53) rawr-imperian: WI you ***gots (00:30:08) rawr-imperian: you lost geminate because I needed tech moons to replace my titan (00:30:14) rawr-hinata: C (00:30:17) rawr-imperian: true story, read it on CAOD (00:30:19) rawr-hinata: My titan is in build as we speak (00:30:22) rawr-hinata: Tia~~ (00:30:27) wi-callum545: really lol (00:30:34) ***wi-callum545 goes to troll caod (00:30:40) rawr-hinata: Big bad Morsus Mihi (00:30:47) rawr-hinata: Let WI and now ME die (00:30:50) rawr-hinata: to get Tech Moons (00:30:52) rawr-hinata: True story (00:31:09) rawr-imperian: yes, let atlas take over ME techmoons so I can retake them later to build a supercarrier fleet (00:31:17) rawr-imperian: ohwait, wrong channel (00:31:37) rawr-imperian: It isnt as it looked like ! Majesta, please believe me ! (00:31:47) rawr-hinata: Imperian! (00:31:50) rawr-hinata: Look what you did! (00:32:25) rawr-imperian: Don't cry daddy, daddy please dont cry, together we will find a brandnew mommy (00:32:55) rawr-hinata: No you ruined it! (00:33:03) wi-callum545: imperian (00:33:11) wi-callum545: then u can buy me an aeon :p (00:33:27) rawr-imperian: you need to join MM first, because only MM overlords get supercarriers (00:33:36) wi-callum545: lol (00:33:51) wi-callum545: join for a day leave rejoin wi (A) (00:33:51) rawr-hinata: C (00:34:05) rawr-hinata: Your pets you don't get expensive toy (00:34:08) rawr-hinata: Get it right (00:34:24) rawr-imperian: WI is dead (00:34:27) wi-callum545: C (00:34:31) rg-junior-svk: u are dead (00:34:38) wi-callum545: we lost GLD thee "premier pvp corp"
Dear Callum545, if you have any self-respect left in you, next time you log in game, please bio mass yourself on the login screen.
Sincerely |

Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 05:51:00 -
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why so serious?
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Garulf Hirgon
Gallente Burning Technologies Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sareita Nebula
Originally by: Palmer Eldritch
Do let us know how it all works out for you and how you're feeling about things in future. I just hope TNT is okay without you.
Right... Lets ridicule someone who use his brain, have a free will and didn't wont to be exploited over nothing, like a mindless bee in a hive for a completely random example.
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Boppi
Amarr Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.01.22 07:19:00 -
[25]
Your signature makes me horny and confused at the same time, Garulf. |

Ace Frehley
Minmatar Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.22 08:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ace Frehley on 22/01/2010 08:06:05 Edited by: Ace Frehley on 22/01/2010 08:03:51 I¦m still chrious about the NC-tactic.
Atm they throwing everything and the kitchensink into the PB area to defeat Tri and brosefs (awsome work)
Oki lets pretend they win, will they just then think that TRI and brosefs will vanish? I doubt so, they will just move to next area and join us when NC will try and retake what we Atlas plus awsome friends taken. Now NC will meet 50% more hostiles dug in. Who will you call on then cuz you cant outblob and outnumber that 
And please go z -> a instead of a -> z in fights  |

j3bus
Caldari Point Blank. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 08:13:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Ace Frehley Edited by: Ace Frehley on 22/01/2010 08:06:05 Edited by: Ace Frehley on 22/01/2010 08:03:51 I¦m still chrious about the NC-tactic.
Atm they throwing everything and the kitchensink into the PB area to defeat Tri and brosefs (awsome work)
Oki lets pretend they win, will they just then think that TRI and brosefs will vanish? I doubt so, they will just move to next area and join us when NC will try and retake what we Atlas plus awsome friends taken. Now NC will meet 50% more hostiles dug in. Who will you call on then cuz you cant outblob and outnumber that 
And please go z -> a instead of a -> z in fights 
Ace is ace tbh! |

Kushmir
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.22 08:27:00 -
[28]
Edited by: Kushmir on 22/01/2010 08:28:24
Originally by: Vuk Lau
This is obviously faked. I would never ask for sexual advice related to women a goon who is famous for touching other goon peenis. Btw can someone post the link to that picture, somehow I didnt bookmarked it.
http://bruno.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/7a/7a5d16c50d353329d9fad848daf6c920b17a32e7.jpg
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Ap0ll0n
Gallente Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 08:45:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Boppi Edited by: Boppi on 22/01/2010 01:18:57 Edited by: Boppi on 22/01/2010 01:13:00
I hope you enjoy your next alliance son, because making this post sure wont help staying in your present one.
Quote: . (00:24:22) rawr-imperian: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1254953 (00:24:25) rawr-imperian: lol (00:24:31) rawr-imperian: best example of a stupid grunt (00:25:04) rawr-hinata: lol (00:25:05) rawr-hinata: or a spy (00:25:31) me-tekai-foo: did nobody tell him that we're all merging into MM? (00:25:38) rawr-hinata: prolly a dumb grunt tough (00:25:50) rawr-hinata: Yea the doghouse has been all setup for yall (00:25:54) rawr-hinata: MJI Pet Daycare (00:25:56) rawr-hinata: :D (00:26:29) rawr-hinata: J-Gamp Majesta Refugee Camp (00:26:37) rawr-hinata: :D (00:28:03) rawr-hinata: RZR is opening refugee camps for WI (00:29:01) wi-callum545: \o/ (00:29:09) wi-callum545: dop we get free meals (00:29:14) wi-callum545: do* (00:29:53) rawr-imperian: WI you ***gots (00:30:08) rawr-imperian: you lost geminate because I needed tech moons to replace my titan (00:30:14) rawr-hinata: C (00:30:17) rawr-imperian: true story, read it on CAOD (00:30:19) rawr-hinata: My titan is in build as we speak (00:30:22) rawr-hinata: Tia~~ (00:30:27) wi-callum545: really lol (00:30:34) ***wi-callum545 goes to troll caod (00:30:40) rawr-hinata: Big bad Morsus Mihi (00:30:47) rawr-hinata: Let WI and now ME die (00:30:50) rawr-hinata: to get Tech Moons (00:30:52) rawr-hinata: True story (00:31:09) rawr-imperian: yes, let atlas take over ME techmoons so I can retake them later to build a supercarrier fleet (00:31:17) rawr-imperian: ohwait, wrong channel (00:31:37) rawr-imperian: It isnt as it looked like ! Majesta, please believe me ! (00:31:47) rawr-hinata: Imperian! (00:31:50) rawr-hinata: Look what you did! (00:32:25) rawr-imperian: Don't cry daddy, daddy please dont cry, together we will find a brandnew mommy (00:32:55) rawr-hinata: No you ruined it! (00:33:03) wi-callum545: imperian (00:33:11) wi-callum545: then u can buy me an aeon :p (00:33:27) rawr-imperian: you need to join MM first, because only MM overlords get supercarriers (00:33:36) wi-callum545: lol (00:33:51) wi-callum545: join for a day leave rejoin wi (A) (00:33:51) rawr-hinata: C (00:34:05) rawr-hinata: Your pets you don't get expensive toy (00:34:08) rawr-hinata: Get it right (00:34:24) rawr-imperian: WI is dead (00:34:27) wi-callum545: C (00:34:31) rg-junior-svk: u are dead (00:34:38) wi-callum545: we lost GLD thee "premier pvp corp"
I see what they did there.. |

Yakoff
Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.22 08:48:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Kushmir Edited by: Kushmir on 22/01/2010 08:28:24
Originally by: Vuk Lau
This is obviously faked. I would never ask for sexual advice related to women a goon who is famous for touching other goon peenis. Btw can someone post the link to that picture, somehow I didnt bookmarked it.
http://bruno.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/7a/7a5d16c50d353329d9fad848daf6c920b17a32e7.jpg
Okay, now I have to admit that that somehow makes me horny and confused at the same time. |

Sovox
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.22 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: Sovox on 22/01/2010 09:04:20 "I afraid I know nothing"
This was all you needed to post tbh! Really you should have talked with you CEO or Corp members that have a clue.
Sorry if this war has ruined your ratting session's so now you cant get your big shiny new ship or whatever but his sort of thing happens from time to time in 0,0. So i guess we at the NC are at fault for ruining your bear time and not the people reading your post in glee who actually invaded.
The truth about the NC is,if your rats are more important than you allies then good riddance and that goes for any alliance in EVE but when the NC does it then its called a back stab.
But then again you have most of the South on our door step over IT's vendetta With the goons and who are the pets again?? and really the North is a big chunk of space so have fun guys! The further you get the more of us you get. at the end the only thing that will come out of it is some cool video's for you tube.. The real war is gonna be in Delve i don't see why we are pretending the North is actually worth anything. But when you are a pet of the Molle's play ground and burn billions of ISK on a useless war to keep us from helping our allies(Goonies) i dont see how you can call anyone else a Pet!! TRI excluded they are cool dudes who really hate us that much :)and make EVE a better place for us both.
Overall Military Analyst are calling this a better hurry up guys and take what you can before the grid problems get patched and CCP get you s#it together and fix what you broke you could have one the largest wars in EVE history and its gonna suck if you are the ones that cause it to never happen..
<3 Goonies good hunting hope it all gets sorted.. I cant believe it but man i miss the Goonie TS lol..
Last and not least to the OP.. Just get out!!
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Super Twinkey69
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 09:01:00 -
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i get it now,i see so many rzr in pb now insted of geminate because....members of the nc like to bear-l0lnc your so funny
thanks for clearinbg this up for us <3 |

Boppi
Amarr Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.01.22 10:03:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Sovox blurf
I get it now, the south are IT's pets and the north is getting stronger by losing territory instead of bleeding corporations . |

Sareita Nebula
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 10:14:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Boppi
Originally by: Sovox blurf
I get it now, the south are IT's pets and the north is getting stronger by losing territory instead of bleeding corporations .
WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway... |

Ap0ll0n
Gallente Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 10:23:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Sareita Nebula
Originally by: Boppi
Originally by: Sovox blurf
I get it now, the south are IT's pets and the north is getting stronger by losing territory instead of bleeding corporations .
WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway...
Dis is true.. |

Vuk Lau
Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.22 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sareita Nebula WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway...
Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
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Rob Repper
Minmatar Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.22 11:29:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Caleb Fury I know its just a game. ......
Best Regards -Caleb Fury.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ^∞ |

Super Twinkey69
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 11:30:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Sareita Nebula WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway...
Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
HEY you there...you dont have time to post on the forums-YOU HAVE MORE FIGHTS TO WIN IN-GAME gogogogogo! seriously tho how do you find time to post between all your coalitions victories....over every fight....all the time.....always....each time....il think of more later.....like in a few hours.....further along in the day..... |

Vasili Z
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 11:44:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Caleb Fury I was informed today that I was banned from posting on the forums.
Anyone who bans their members from posting is immediately the bad guy. |

mjed mazga
Caldari Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.22 12:39:00 -
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ME sucks (zomg tech moons with small towers, no guns, and no stront! win!), but we didn't want those moons anyway. And maybe the North will burn. I'm still okay being a meatshield.
Keep bringing the good fights. Earn it.
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Waukesha
Amarr Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tung Yoggi You got it all wrong, you ASKED A SERIOUS QUESTION ON CAOD.
Hint: the Northern Nerds are being invaded by some Southern Nerds & Former Northern Nerds, so you have to fight for your space, along with your allies, some might failcascade in the process, blah blah. It could be really fun if there wasn't this lag issue, but you might get some great fights. Have fun pewpewing.
u nerd
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Sareita Nebula
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 13:27:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Sareita Nebula WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway...
Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
Confirm that immediately means, stay about a month against 10:1 kill a first MM titan, and be a good neighbor, since then. Yeah i will unsubscribe because of this mighty smack. For sure, evicting a small carebear pet alliance is worthing lost of aoe titan. Also are you guys still itching from inside that we don't lose everything and disband as you wish and expect? Go strategically protect some more moon goo from your allys. |

Micha L
Gallente SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 14:09:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Sareita Nebula WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway...
Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
LOL Vuk lau( blau sau mau pau)!
Better look where all these corps and members went. Of course they went to yours carebear heaven. Giving passes to pos-s and ts to you just to stay up north and be in belts all day long. You should go to doctor to check you head, all you NC+domestic pets guys have problem with memory loss. We stod and fight even with all of you titan on grid DD-ing us every day(4 titans on 70 man fleet) just lol, but when come to fight non caps I saw you Vuk cloaking 130km from fight leaving your members to die. Let me remind you, after loss of Avatar(famous as Trader da boy Joni) NC order to stop using titans on CO2 becouse its not safe. lol Really funny is thet domestic pets still do not see who you realy are and what are you doing. But in time they will!
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Caleb Fury
Amarr Did I just do that Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.22 15:46:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Sovox Edited by: Sovox on 22/01/2010 09:32:32
Really you should have talked with you CEO or Corp members that have a clue.
Sorry if this war has ruined your ratting session's so now you cant get your big shiny new ship or whatever but his sort of thing happens from time to time in 0,0. So i guess we at the NC are at fault for ruining your bear time and not the people reading your post in glee who actually invaded.
The truth about the NC is,if your rats are more important than you allies then good riddance and that goes for any alliance in EVE but when the NC does it then its called a back stab.
Overall Military Analyst are calling this a better hurry up guys and take what you can before the grid problems get patched and CCP get you s#it together and fix what you broke you could have one the largest wars in EVE history and its gonna suck if you are the ones that cause it to never happen..
<3 Goonies good hunting hope it all gets sorted.. I cant believe it but man i miss the Goonie TS lol..
Last and not least to the OP.. Just get out!!
You're making a lot of assumptions about me, so I think perhaps maybe it was the way I worded things. When I was referring to rats I was speaking of others people like me in 00 who do that. Anyone who knows me knows I don't rat. I still feel as if LV4 missions in hi-sec are a better deal, hence I don't bother will null-PVE.
The Rats being more important than my allies? The fact of the matter is that a Tech moon overrides everything else in the NC. I can't speak for Razor since the only dealing I've had from you is my killing a ratting Ishtar and the blue standings confusion from a few months back.
As far as asking on CAOD?
I only did that because I got wind of us being asked to head to Pure Blind. I wanted to try to get an answer as I was concerned as to why people were obviously being shuffled around for resourses. I had kept hearing that what had happened to Majesta and WI is nothing new, and that the same had happened to TnT prior. I found it strange that an organization which had been purportedly backstabbed before would still have any association with the NC.
I started random convoing people that were in TnT about when they were in Wicked Creek. The biggest impression I got was a whole lot of people being only a tad bit evasive. I couldn't get a str8 answer from anyone. But no one had an issue asking me to bring a Zealot to a suicide fleet....
When asked about living there, do you know what most people in chat said?
"What difference does it make to be in ROIR. Thats where Tri is anyway so we can't rat or take the moons"
Only alliance leadership from TCF, Morsus, and Razor really care about the fight. If you want to ponder why half the people in select small alliances in the North are all doing anomolies during CTA's perhaps you should ask yourself why.
Most of us "dumb grunts" get the feeling that we are fighting to line someone else pockets.
Thank you again to everyone for all the kind words. I have gotten many Eve mails in game from people wishing me the best of luck. I really appreciate it!
I don't know if posting chatlogs is allowed, but every unfavorable response I've gotten never dealt with the content of my post so much as it was a "You're ruining everything for us. We are trying to land some (guess what) moons and your ******* it up."
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Princess Jodi
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:07:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Sergeant Justice TRI/CO2/ATLAS/SOLAR Happened.
Ya know, the thread should have stopped here.
The simple fact is that no alliance, not even mighty Northern Carebears, can stand up to concerted efforts by multiple alliances every day and every time. Yes, there has been some space losses. Did you expect complete and total victory in a half-hour like some TV SitCom?
To the OP: You may have had good intentions (or been a decent spy troll) when you started this thread, but your concerns are being used by the Enemy as a propaganda tool now. There is reason that most countries do not allow dissent in wartime - and you'll see it if you read this whole thread.
This Space Game is about taking Space. Be a bit boring if you were on the side that always was 'taking' wouldn't it?
Besides, its sweeter to take thing back from the Big Bad Boys that took it from you. Rambo would not have been such a good movie if Stallone just walked into town and got a job at McDonalds, would it?
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Boppi
Amarr Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:15:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Caleb Fury
I only did that because I got wind of us being asked to head to Pure Blind. I wanted to try to get an answer as I was concerned as to why people were obviously being shuffled around for resourses. I had kept hearing that what had happened to Majesta and WI is nothing new, and that the same had happened to TnT prior. I found it strange that an organization which had been purportedly backstabbed before would still have any association with the NC.
To be fair, the last time TNT got fugged up the ass for being too loyal, it wasn't the NC.
Now on the other hand, everyone who ever was in IRON or PURE, and the good people of The Initiative or Circle of Two might tell you a story or two about the live as a NC-meatshield. ___________________________
1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr |

Sareita Nebula
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:30:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: Sergeant Justice TRI/CO2/ATLAS/SOLAR Happened.
Ya know, the thread should have stopped here.
The simple fact is that no alliance, not even mighty Northern Carebears, can stand up to concerted efforts by multiple alliances every day and every time. Yes, there has been some space losses. Did you expect complete and total victory in a half-hour like some TV SitCom?
To the OP: You may have had good intentions (or been a decent spy troll) when you started this thread, but your concerns are being used by the Enemy as a propaganda tool now. There is reason that most countries do not allow dissent in wartime - and you'll see it if you read this whole thread.
This Space Game is about taking Space. Be a bit boring if you were on the side that always was 'taking' wouldn't it?
Besides, its sweeter to take thing back from the Big Bad Boys that took it from you. Rambo would not have been such a good movie if Stallone just walked into town and got a job at McDonalds, would it?
It is part of a great anti NC propaganda to make your leadership to fake mails one-sided, to order you to give up from your space, to protect someone else's space and to took the valuable moons for better protection and greater good. Now i can see clearly why when we was in nc we need to travel trough region or two to find some fight and then, nc carriers reped the station because "we disrupt major nc sekrit op" and other complete bullthings. Sure it is all planned back in the dawn of eve. That's why you are gaining a lot of space and get a all possible help which nc can provide.
But yes brainwashing is good for high commanders wallets. Also if Rambo instead of killing all those ppl, just make fake killmails about them. It wont be very good movie ether, but many will laugh on him and will be entertaining.
Sekrit: It is very hard to be ridicule and laugh when you are right without fabricating complete lies. Just search for some island, inches, titan logoff (which NC NEVER did ofc) and so on, and so on. No need to search very deep. --
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fpshacker
Gallente Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:42:00 -
[48]
imperion wants YOU to defend his personal moons.
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Caleb Fury
Amarr Did I just do that Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:45:00 -
[49]
Originally by: fpshacker imperion wants YOU to defend his personal moons.
Dumb Grunt reporting in SIR!!! No no lemme stop. I'm just making fun.
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Sareita Nebula
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:54:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Caleb Fury
Originally by: fpshacker imperion wants YOU to defend his personal moons.
Dumb Grunt reporting in SIR!!! No no lemme stop. I'm just making fun.
Fun and NC don't mix well. --
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.22 17:00:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Butter Dog on 22/01/2010 17:00:00
Originally by: fpshacker imperion wants YOU to defend his personal moons.
your post would be even better, if you deployed strategically located parentheses
like this
Imperian wants YOU
(to defend his personal moons)
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~bitter dog~
etc |

floridajay
Gallente Smegnet Incorporated Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.22 17:19:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Kushmir http://bruno.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/7a/7a5d16c50d353329d9fad848daf6c920b17a32e7.jpg[/quote
*note to self nvr open goon links while in class =/ WhAt DiD YoU SaY BoUt My MoMa ?
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Emennt
Caldari SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 17:50:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Sovox TRI excluded they are cool dudes who really hate us that much
We really hate you too, seriously
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Sordeo Regius
Gallente Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.01.22 17:51:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Sergeant Justice TRI/CO2/ATLAS/SOLAR Happened.
I only saw the others AFTER Atlas came in and did the dirty work.
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Marcus Riegn
Minmatar Blue Team
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Posted - 2010.01.22 17:53:00 -
[55]
Man this thread is comedy gold.
To the OP (though you may well be a cunning spy and already know this) CAOD contains nothing but propaganda, any one who says otherwise is trying to sell you something, don't expect strait answers from anyone involved in any kind of war.
Although you may consider your right to post sacred, you still bear responsibility for what you say, and yeah you deserve to be kicked out into the cold for handing your enemies the biggest propaganda piece they've gotten outside of taking geminate (again maybe a spy and this was your intention all along v0v).
If you don't like all this BS, (I don't) I suggest finding a standalone corp that roams or maybe mercs and let's members handle their own finances, and doesn't bother with space. Because in the end, this is a game, and sovereignty is not worth that much bull****.
-don't bother flying safe, it's boring.
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Emennt
Caldari SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 17:59:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Vuk Lau Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
We did fight while we could(2 months or so?), and we did that alone for the most part(only White Noise was helping us from time to time) I live for the day to see how much will MM lose their members when tribute starts to burn
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Rann Antares
Gallente The Knights Templar R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.01.22 18:16:00 -
[57]
I rarely post in CAOD for obvious reasons, but this is a good thread. I can see both sides of the argument, however, in defense of the NC, I see it this way: the only way to win a two-front war is to pick a front and win it first. Someone is going to have to make a sacrifice.
Case in point, Axis (mostly Germany) in WWII chose to fight on both fronts. They lost. Allies chose to fight in Europe, in essence, sacrificing the greater Pacific Rim to the Japanese until victory in Europe, then came back to retake the lost ground in the Pacific. Otherwise, today, the world might be a very different place.
I'm just putting a historical perspective into the justification of the NC's strategy given it's strategic position, all propaganda aside. And it's all propaganda, given the point of view you choose to see it from.
Just a grunt,
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Too Ducky
Caldari Did I just do that Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.22 18:19:00 -
[58]
Confirming the OP will NOT be kicked.
This thread raises some valid questions which both sides can put their side across to deal with the points easily enough. It's not as if the issues contained in here are not covered in multiple other threads on the first page in any event.
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Myz Toyou
Minmatar APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2010.01.22 18:20:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Emennt
Originally by: Vuk Lau Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
We did fight while we could(2 months or so?), and we did that alone for the most part(only White Noise was helping us from time to time) I live for the day to see how much will MM lose their members when tribute starts to burn
They will cover that up with the next step in CoreNC`s masterplan:
All pilots from WI./ME/TNT/MH with more then 20 kills in the last 30days have to join a MM corp, if you don`t do it within 3 days you will get kicked out of the NC.
Your glorious leader Vuk Lau
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Ein Spiegel
Minmatar SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.01.22 18:20:00 -
[60]
To the OP: Thank you for being a sane, rational individual trying to understand the mechanics of Alliance political maneuvering in Eve Online.
As many other people have said, the answer to "What's Happened?" is the same sad story that seems to exist in Geminate since capsuleers have lived there. I've started likening war in Geminate to the infamous "land war in Asia".
To the replies the very "internet spaceships is srs bsnss" replies, talking about "propoganda" and "spies" and such...
BAH!!! Look, it's a game. It's a fun game, war. And I'm fighting on "my" side because I like to see things blow up. Sometimes it's enemies, sometimes it's me. Y'know what? I still enjoy it. Moon goo doesn't enter into my equations. I've got money from other means, because wars are good for the economy. Holding space? Yeah, not my concern. Feeding "propoganda" to the enemy?
Look, I'm part of the "enemy". And I don't give one flying rat's ass about what you lot are posting in CAOD. What I care about is getting in my ship, hitting space, and getting into fights. Whether it's an organized CTA, or just farting around and bleeding you out one ship at a time... what you say here on CAOD simply DOES NOT MATTER.
What I've seen here is someone that thinks he or his corp could be getting the shaft, and trying to get an answer. Because, y'know, leadership is always forthcoming. When asked directly. And certainly they wouldn't be doing something like what he is suggesting. (Despite it being the norm for anyone holding space in Geminate for a loooong time.) He's looking at it from a grunt's perspective. What benefit is he getting out of this? What benefit is his corp and alliance getting out of this? Seriously, if leadership is just going to herd you together to throw you at the enemy with no chance of victory, you should ask these kinds of questions.
I'm a simple man. I like cheap things... gunpowder, dynamite, gasoline. I like things to go boom. So I'm pretty much covered no matter where I go, or why I might be there. But it's the people you're flying with that make it worthwhile. I think maybe people that ban you from posting on the forum, and get ****ed off about a question they could have answered before you got to the forums, might not be a great fit for you.
Feel free to say hey if you decide to bail. Of course, odds are you wouldn't get in during wartime (well, the spies point at least has some validity) but there's all kinds of people out there.
Also... moo.
(Confirming this may **** off Bobby Atlas. But, y'know, I have a mind. And don't really care, as long as he still gets me fights.)
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Imogen Filiotov
Amarr Hounds of Helll Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 19:55:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: Sergeant Justice TRI/CO2/ATLAS/SOLAR Happened.
To the OP: You may have had good intentions (or been a decent spy troll) when you started this thread, but your concerns are being used by the Enemy as a propaganda tool now. There is reason that most countries do not allow dissent in wartime - and you'll see it if you read this whole thread.
Dude, the guy wanted to enjoy the game and have fun. RZR, MM and TFC (l0lcarrier) ****ed that up for him. Why should he pay $15 to suk ya balls?
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Douglas Pearce
Caldari Music Martinis and Misanthropy
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Posted - 2010.01.22 21:11:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Princess Jodi Rambo would not have been such a good movie if Stallone just walked into town and got a job at McDonalds, would it?
Yes, I totally agree with you, Rambo is such a good movie.
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riverini
Gallente MOTHER-CORP Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.22 21:47:00 -
[63]
Edited by: riverini on 22/01/2010 21:49:27
Originally by: Super Twinkey69 Fap! Fap! Fap!
Hey Twinky, word is u still missing those Tech-moon?     
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Conman
Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 22:01:00 -
[64]
Originally by: riverini Edited by: riverini on 22/01/2010 21:49:27
Originally by: Super Twinkey69 Fap! Fap! Fap!
Hey Twinky, word is u still missing those Tech-moon?     
Tell me about losing those 13 moon nubbins mauhahaha
"In a perfect world we would all be dead"
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Myz Toyou
Minmatar APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2010.01.22 22:03:00 -
[65]
Originally by: riverini Edited by: riverini on 22/01/2010 21:49:27
Originally by: Super Twinkey69 Fap! Fap! Fap!
Hey Twinky, word is u still missing those Tech-moon?     
This comming from an ME member whos lost atleast 4 of them in the last 36 hours because you put small towers with no guns on these moons is pure gold 
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Plaetean
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2010.01.22 22:24:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: riverini Edited by: riverini on 22/01/2010 21:49:27
Originally by: Super Twinkey69 Fap! Fap! Fap!
Hey Twinky, word is u still missing those Tech-moon?     
This comming from an ME member whos lost atleast 4 of them in the last 36 hours because you put small towers with no guns on these moons is pure gold 
      
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.23 00:47:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Lykouleon on 23/01/2010 00:49:00
Originally by: floridajay
Originally by: Kushmir
http://bruno.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/7a/7a5d16c50d353329d9fad848daf6c920b17a32e7.jpg
*note to self nvr open goon links ever =/
fixed. you're incredibly stupid for not knowing that, beee teee duuub 
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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Manterror
Gallente Fuzzy Duck Heavy Industries DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.01.23 08:46:00 -
[68]
Do not quote the OP on current NC situation.
AFAIK all of us NC active in PB are having a blast. Eve is fun when its not lagging. Roams almost always result in goodfights, and the roam tonight was full of beer, weed and 1 person sipping on a wine (then we got hot-dropped and sobered up for 10 minutes while retreating).
I dont expect internal collapse, you will still have to fight for inches 
Troll...
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Lunas Whisper
Minmatar The Centurions Eternus Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.23 17:43:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Caleb Fury
Originally by: Sovox Edited by: Sovox on 22/01/2010 09:32:32
You're making a lot of assumptions about me, so I think perhaps maybe it was the way I worded things. When I was referring to rats I was speaking of others people like me in 00 who do that. Anyone who knows me knows I don't rat. I still feel as if LV4 missions in hi-sec are a better deal, hence I don't bother will null-PVE.
The Rats being more important than my allies? The fact of the matter is that a Tech moon overrides everything else in the NC. I can't speak for Razor since the only dealing I've had from you is my killing a ratting Ishtar and the blue standings confusion from a few months back.
As far as asking on CAOD?
I only did that because I got wind of us being asked to head to Pure Blind. I wanted to try to get an answer as I was concerned as to why people were obviously being shuffled around for resourses. I had kept hearing that what had happened to Majesta and WI is nothing new, and that the same had happened to TnT prior. I found it strange that an organization which had been purportedly backstabbed before would still have any association with the NC.
I started random convoing people that were in TnT about when they were in Wicked Creek. The biggest impression I got was a whole lot of people being only a tad bit evasive. I couldn't get a str8 answer from anyone. But no one had an issue asking me to bring a Zealot to a suicide fleet....
When asked about living there, do you know what most people in chat said?
"What difference does it make to be in ROIR. Thats where Tri is anyway so we can't rat or take the moons"
Only alliance leadership from TCF, Morsus, and Razor really care about the fight. If you want to ponder why half the people in select small alliances in the North are all doing anomolies during CTA's perhaps you should ask yourself why.
Most of us "dumb grunts" get the feeling that we are fighting to line someone else pockets.
Thank you again to everyone for all the kind words. I have gotten many Eve mails in game from people wishing me the best of luck. I really appreciate it!
I don't know if posting chatlogs is allowed, but every unfavorable response I've gotten never dealt with the content of my post so much as it was a "You're ruining everything for us. We are trying to land some (guess what) moons and your ******* it up."
Let me translate hun
You are making stuff harder for the Nc leadership because you are posting intel on Coad which is mostly used for epeen waving:)
Your leadership can't give you a straight answer because they don't know as it hasn't been given to them yet what they are going to do. FC's and the NC higher up leadership are holding that close to their chest to keep the various spies from leaking stuff to Atlas.
The long and blunt short of it, yes you are sacrifising your stuff for others. It's part of being in an alliance, especially when that alliance is at war.
Now the question you have to ask yourself, is...
Is it worth it? Why or why not.
If not come see me in game. I can guarantee you, you won't be treated this way with me. United we stand, divided we fall. |

Lunas Whisper
Minmatar The Centurions Eternus Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.23 17:51:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Ein Spiegel To the OP: Thank you for being a sane, rational individual trying to understand the mechanics of Alliance political maneuvering in Eve Online.
As many other people have said, the answer to "What's Happened?" is the same sad story that seems to exist in Geminate since capsuleers have lived there. I've started likening war in Geminate to the infamous "land war in Asia".
To the replies the very "internet spaceships is srs bsnss" replies, talking about "propoganda" and "spies" and such...
BAH!!! Look, it's a game. It's a fun game, war. And I'm fighting on "my" side because I like to see things blow up. Sometimes it's enemies, sometimes it's me. Y'know what? I still enjoy it. Moon goo doesn't enter into my equations. I've got money from other means, because wars are good for the economy. Holding space? Yeah, not my concern. Feeding "propoganda" to the enemy?
Look, I'm part of the "enemy". And I don't give one flying rat's ass about what you lot are posting in CAOD. What I care about is getting in my ship, hitting space, and getting into fights. Whether it's an organized CTA, or just farting around and bleeding you out one ship at a time... what you say here on CAOD simply DOES NOT MATTER.
What I've seen here is someone that thinks he or his corp could be getting the shaft, and trying to get an answer. Because, y'know, leadership is always forthcoming. When asked directly. And certainly they wouldn't be doing something like what he is suggesting. (Despite it being the norm for anyone holding space in Geminate for a loooong time.) He's looking at it from a grunt's perspective. What benefit is he getting out of this? What benefit is his corp and alliance getting out of this? Seriously, if leadership is just going to herd you together to throw you at the enemy with no chance of victory, you should ask these kinds of questions.
I'm a simple man. I like cheap things... gunpowder, dynamite, gasoline. I like things to go boom. So I'm pretty much covered no matter where I go, or why I might be there. But it's the people you're flying with that make it worthwhile. I think maybe people that ban you from posting on the forum, and get ****ed off about a question they could have answered before you got to the forums, might not be a great fit for you.
Feel free to say hey if you decide to bail. Of course, odds are you wouldn't get in during wartime (well, the spies point at least has some validity) but there's all kinds of people out there.
Also... moo.
(Confirming this may **** off Bobby Atlas. But, y'know, I have a mind. And don't really care, as long as he still gets me fights.)
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Rhas Seikar
Minmatar Jelly Baby Corporation Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.23 19:14:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Mr Macawesome ME, MH, Rage and tnt along with others; its time to stop letting yourself be used. Remove yourselves from this war. No one is asking you to take up arms against your former friends but we do ask you to step aside for our grudge is not with you. Talk to a diplomat from one of the southern alliances who can help you leave the north and find a new home in the south if you desire.
The NC no longer stands for what it used to be. It is now all about greed and moon goo. The North will burn. There is no reason you should pay for the sins of Razor and MM. No matter what you decide i wish you good luck and would like to take a moment to say good fight to WI. They deserved better and should not have been sold out and left for dead. I hope you all realize like C02 and The Initiative did and choose the right path.
Good luck and please seriously think about what i said today. This is not propaganda, i was in your same shoes 2 years ago and i don't want to see the same thing happened to you that happened to me.
Yeah... because you only invaded the north because of a personal grudge with the NC. I'm sure you would leave us alone if we stopped fighting you. It does seem a little suspicious that your noble attempt to free us from our opression comes directly after game changes that made our moons more valuable, but anything said in that direction is probably only evil propaganda aimed to drive us even more into the arms of our evil NC overlords. After all, we can keep that space, as you only seek vengeance on MM, Rzr and Tcf and... oh wait we would have to relocate to the south? huh, strange... And you already attacked our moons? Well, at least we have the comfort of knowing you didn't do it because of greed or for the moon goo.
Also, you can ask anyone in WI if he feels sold out and left for dead. The answer would greatly interest me.
Overall, this is just another attemp to drive a wedge between us. Not done too badly but still not very convinving. Was to be expected. Good thing that nobody gives a **** about coad anyways.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.01.23 19:29:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Rhas Seikar . It does seem a little suspicious that your noble attempt to free us from our opression comes directly after game changes that made our moons more valuable.
What moons?
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Myz Toyou
Minmatar APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2010.01.23 19:36:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Rhas Seikar
Overall, this is just another attemp to drive a wedge between us. Not done too badly but still not very convincing. Was to be expected. Good thing that nobody gives a **** about coad anyways.
ME forums telling a different story 
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ArmyOfMe
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2010.01.23 19:51:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Sareita Nebula WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway...
Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
lack of memory is a *****
oh, and vuk, stop posting on caod, your getting worse then plague
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kyrieee
Gallente Psykotic Meat Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.23 19:51:00 -
[75]
Wedge? Red leader, standing by!
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Betty Boom
Caldari SPECTRE Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.23 23:45:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Manterror
I dont expect internal collapse, you will still have to fight for inches 
Eve has a metric system. NC will fail if they use inches.
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Lynn Deniera
Caldari SUNDERING Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.24 07:17:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Lynn Deniera on 24/01/2010 07:17:41 I rarely post on COAD either, why endear hate towards your alliance?
I've always wanted to visit the north though.
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Ayden Messura
Gallente Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.25 04:34:00 -
[78]
TnT is a pvp alliance that lives in 0.0. We fight with the NC because we want to have fun fights whether they be over moons or tcu's or stations, if you are not into that, you should not be in 0.0
Thanks for all the fishes
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Dr Ngo
Amarr Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.01.25 09:53:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Dr Ngo on 25/01/2010 09:53:45 Edited by: Dr Ngo on 25/01/2010 09:53:23
Originally by: Ayden Messura TnT is a pvp alliance that lives in 0.0. We fight with for the NC because we want to have fun fights whether they be over moons or tcu's or stations, if you are not into that, you should not be in 0.0 NC
Thanks for all the fishes
Fixed
Now can we please let this thread die?
Edit: forgot a word 
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P99
Amarr The Fallen Angels Unit Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.01.25 11:34:00 -
[80]
hey Vuk what happend to "this are the sistems of our friends from SRBI corp(C02)". This was the rule regarding some sistems in Venal in witch even MM members couldn't enter because there his serbian friends had exclusivity. And now lol "the SRBI friends" are kicking your a.s :))) |

Helen
Amarr Resonance. Ghost Wing.
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Posted - 2010.01.25 12:04:00 -
[81]
Originally by: ArmyOfMe
Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Sareita Nebula WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway...
Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
lack of memory is a *****
oh, and vuk, stop posting on caod, your getting worse then plague
He'd have to go a long long way to hit the Plague standard of posting. And by long way I mean downwards.
Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.StevieSG TIME TO NUT UP OR SHUT UP |

Maximilian Black
Gallente Techno-Wizard Industrial Technologies
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Posted - 2010.01.25 21:47:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Rann Antares Case in point, Axis (mostly Germany) in WWII chose to fight on both fronts. They lost. Allies chose to fight in Europe, in essence, sacrificing the greater Pacific Rim to the Japanese until victory in Europe, then came back to retake the lost ground in the Pacific. Otherwise, today, the world might be a very different place.
Maybe not the best analogy to prove your point, but I know what you're trying to say: don't spread yourself too thin. It's not so much about how many people you fight, it's about the capabilities of who you fight. (For the record, I take no sides in this argument.)
(geek on)
The Third Reich didn't lose because they fought on multiple fronts - they lost because they picked too many fights with opponents that had the ability to win the long game, principally the United States and the Soviet Union.
When Germany was rolling west into the Benelux and France, west into Poland and Czechoslovakia, south into the Balkans, as well as crushing shipping in the North Atlantic (technically that's four fronts), they were doing just fine. It's when they got arrogant and picked fights with the US and the Soviet Union that they lowered their chances of taking it all.
By the way, the US didn't sacrifice the Pacific Rim - it got the crap kicked out of it at Pearl Harbor, in the Philippines and many other places in the Pacific at the outset of the war. Without a functional fleet to counter the Imperial Navy, the US was unable to do much of anything - it could slapped rifles into the hands of millions, but fat lot of good it'd have done them if they couldn't move around the Pacific. That's why the battle of Midway was so important - it knocked the Imperial Navy down a couple notches and gave the US a fighting chance to build up its strength and push the fighting further west.
(/geek off)
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Manterror
Gallente Fuzzy Duck Heavy Industries DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.01.25 23:40:00 -
[83]
we all know whats going to happen...
...Once PB war is done, the entire NC and the hammer of fury will land upon Geminate and all will be back to November 2009
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Sareita Nebula
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.26 00:22:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Sareita Nebula on 26/01/2010 00:23:12
Originally by: Manterror we all know whats going to happen...
...Once PB war is done, the entire NC and the hammer of fury will land upon Geminate and all will be back to November 2009
Sure...
If NC have to fight on two fronts... well we seen it already. They fail on both of them. Then if you pick one of the fronts, you will be overrun on the other. It's not like NC don't hammer all of fury in PB and it is dead end for them. :) I suppose THE HOPE of returning Geminate will never end. Which of course was abandoned completely on WI decision, and don't have anything in common with fights and orders from their masters to trow anything and their fury hammers in PB. WI simply don't region that region, for sure! Why they dream of reclaim it again? Is that's what is promised to you guys from the lord of the moons? Isn't something like inches or island?
P.S. Agreeing with something like: "we don't want those titan and two region anyway" don't work very well when it's blatantly obvious a fat lie. But if you keep repeating it it can make your existence as a thrown under bus pet much more bearable.
edit: missed word --
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Yakoff
Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.26 01:07:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Maximilian Black
Originally by: Rann Antares Case in point, Axis (mostly Germany) in WWII chose to fight on both fronts. They lost. Allies chose to fight in Europe, in essence, sacrificing the greater Pacific Rim to the Japanese until victory in Europe, then came back to retake the lost ground in the Pacific. Otherwise, today, the world might be a very different place.
Maybe not the best analogy to prove your point, but I know what you're trying to say: don't spread yourself too thin. It's not so much about how many people you fight, it's about the capabilities of who you fight. (For the record, I take no sides in this argument.)
(geek on)
The Third Reich didn't lose because they fought on multiple fronts - they lost because they picked too many fights with opponents that had the ability to win the long game, principally the United States and the Soviet Union.
When Germany was rolling west into the Benelux and France, west into Poland and Czechoslovakia, south into the Balkans, as well as crushing shipping in the North Atlantic (technically that's four fronts), they were doing just fine. It's when they got arrogant and picked fights with the US and the Soviet Union that they lowered their chances of taking it all.
By the way, the US didn't sacrifice the Pacific Rim - it got the crap kicked out of it at Pearl Harbor, in the Philippines and many other places in the Pacific at the outset of the war. Without a functional fleet to counter the Imperial Navy, the US was unable to do much of anything - it could slapped rifles into the hands of millions, but fat lot of good it'd have done them if they couldn't move around the Pacific. That's why the battle of Midway was so important - it knocked the Imperial Navy down a couple notches and gave the US a fighting chance to build up its strength and push the fighting further west.
(/geek off)
I agree. The Germans should never have bombed Pearl Harbor. ___ It deosnt mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat leettr be in the rghit pclae. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef. |

Raok
Minmatar SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.01.26 01:23:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Ayden Messura TnT is a pvp alliance
Thanks for all the fishes
troll
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