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Totalrx
NA No Assholes Silver Twilight Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.06.25 19:05:00 -
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Before anyone says this is BS - remember this:
Other countries can and do recognize US Copyright laws. (aka Berne & UCC conventions) The UK has the authority to approve this individual being tried and convicted in the US. It is the UK that is extraditing him to the US.
I hold some of my own copyrights and don't want people distributing my work just because they feel entitled to. Sorry, I worked my arse off on that material and nobody is entitled for free to it just because they feel they are.
That being said - he shouldn't be extradited. The UK can try and convict him of breaking copyright laws on UK soil and in their own courts. The UK & US are making this into a dog & pony show. |
Totalrx
NA No Assholes Silver Twilight Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.06.25 20:21:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Totalrx wrote: That being said - he shouldn't be extradited. The UK can try and convict him of breaking copyright laws on UK soil and in their own courts. The UK & US are making this into a dog & pony show.
That's the important part here. Are we all now supposed to be judged before US courts and held imprisoned in the US? I think not! They already went over the line with illegal abductions of muslim suspects (some of them innocent and release after years without ever seeing a judge). Now they are trying to grab the average citizen who did - or did not - minor crimes* OUTSIDE the US! * It's not even clear that he actually did something illegal. He supposedly just shared links to other servers. Which was not illegal before and hopefully will never be. He's kind of in the same situation with Kim Schmitz, with the difference that KS is wealthy and has good lawyers. Signed the petition.
Totalrx wrote:It is the UK that is extraditing him to the US.
You missed that part.
The US is requesting he be extradited.
The UK is the country that is going to extradite this person.
The US can only extradite people in the US.
Wanna blame someone for him being extradited, blame the UK |
Totalrx
NA No Assholes Silver Twilight Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.06.25 20:49:00 -
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I'm not going to argue the state of Corporate America or the US Gov't here. I've lost faith in both.
Britain acknowledges and upholds US Copyright laws. I'll say it again - look up the Berne & UCC conventions and you'll understand.
Someone in the US filed charges and the UK is willing to comply.
That doesn't mean that the US can extend its angry arm and try citizens in other countries at will. That other country has to agree to it.
Even though it is a case where US law was broken on British soil, it is Britain that is allowing this to happen. The British government could have very well sent a raspberry to the request and that would have been it. No, instead, British authorities are going to extradite a British citizen, who violated another country's laws on British soil, to that country to be tried and possibly convicted.
The British government is the entity that is letting this happen folks.
Countries search other countries for people on their wanted list all the time. Even if they find them, it's up to the other country to allow their extradition.
I don't agree with this, but everyone is jumping on the "Blame the US" bandwagon when it should be "Blame the US entertainment industry lawyers and blame Britain's government for giving him to the US government" |
Totalrx
NA No Assholes Silver Twilight Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.06.25 20:55:00 -
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Too bad cyber petitions do not hold any legal weight. They are too easy to sign more than once which will nullify any legal clout the real ones with real signatures have. |
Totalrx
NA No Assholes Silver Twilight Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.06.25 21:14:00 -
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I didn't say they weren't useful for awareness, I just stated that internet signed petitions have no legal standing |
Totalrx
NA No Assholes Silver Twilight Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.06.25 22:55:00 -
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Blastcaps Madullier wrote:Totalrx wrote:I didn't say they weren't useful for awareness, I just stated that internet signed petitions have no legal standing The guy still needs to be prosecuted though. Just on British soil. As a person who worked for over two decades in the entertainment industry, I don't support theft or unauthorized distribution of copyrighted works. it's already been throught the legal system on the issue of linking, linking was ruled legal and not illegal.
I will honestly admit that I missed the part that he was merely linking the content.
100% ggreed, but that is changing here in the US. Very scary territory that things are headed into.
Here's the article along with a copy of the original investigation complaint: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/10/new-york-man-faces-five-years-in-jail-for-linking-to-online-videos/
I would venture to say that the basis is that people who link are participating in the distribution of unauthorized reproductions of copyrighted material. I don't agree with it, but that appears to be where they are headed. |
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