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DragonFromHell
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.25 20:22:00 -
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Greetings all,
Sack of fresh meat here wanting to know a few things about EVE. I just activated my account today because this game seemed to pique my curioisty. I have read over the career guide PDF, and was completely overwhelmed with all the different career options in the game world.
I typically like to follow reputable play style, so playing as a pirate or something sinister like that does not really suit me.
I enjoy combat, group play and solo play as well. Obviously my knowledge about the game world is very low, but I found it very intriguing that career options such as "Software Engineer" or "Musician" existed. Are these bizarre careers part of the game world, or does it mean applying real-world skills towards the game in exchange for some in-game credits?
Also, I'd like to know what some experience players have to say about meta gameplay. What does it all boil down to? Combat? Is there a certain recipe for success? What does wealth do for you in this game?
I look forward to your responses, and I look forward to logging in later tonight!
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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
420
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Posted - 2012.06.25 20:38:00 -
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Quote:I enjoy combat, group play and solo play as well. Obviously my knowledge about the game world is very low, but I found it very intriguing that career options such as "Software Engineer" or "Musician" existed. Are these bizarre careers part of the game world, or does it mean applying real-world skills towards the game in exchange for some in-game credits?
The latter. For example, some people have gambling services where gambling credit is paid for in ISK.
Any sort of game-related service that you can provide (even if out of game) can be paid for in ISK.
Quote:Also, I'd like to know what some experience players have to say about meta gameplay. What does it all boil down to? Combat? Is there a certain recipe for success? What does wealth do for you in this game?
Wealth lets you buy things - that's it. You can do things like play the market with your capital to take money and make it into more money, or you can bankroll a corporation, but for the most part it's just for buying ships, modules, starbases, etc. There are tons of ways to generate wealth and there are also tons of ways to play the game that don't necessarily even require a lot of wealth.
Combat is important, yes - even if you don't personally get involved in PVP, it's PVP that drives loss which is what keeps the economy going.
Personally, I'm involved in faction warfare (a player war between the major factions, Amarr vs Minmatar in my case). The lowsec inbetween the two factions can be captured for each respective side, and doing so earns rewards in the form of 'loyalty points' which can be exchanged for certain equipment, which I then use to further fund my combat. My day to day gameplay, aside from administering the corp I am a part of, involves mostly fighting other players. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
3138
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Posted - 2012.06.26 04:07:00 -
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Hi, welcome to Eve.
As a new player it's best that you first complete the Aura Tutorial and then do all 5 Career Agents. They will give you some basic knowledge about the various careers available along with some ships, skills, modules, implants, ISK, and experience. After completing those, you can do the level 1 SoE Epic Arc while training up skills and deciding what type of Career you would like to do.
The Evelopedia has a lot of information and Guides available.
Good luck to you.
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Luis Graca
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:54:00 -
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DragonFromHell wrote:Greetings all,
Also, I'd like to know what some experience players have to say about meta gameplay. What does it all boil down to? Combat? Is there a certain recipe for success? What does wealth do for you in this game?
Meta gaming in here goes to whatever you can remember, if it's in game mechanics it's allowed there have be alliances that even their name was stolen |
Iria Ahrens
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.06.26 07:05:00 -
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DragonFromHell wrote:Greetings all,
Sack of fresh meat here wanting to know a few things about EVE. I just activated my account today because this game seemed to pique my curioisty. I have read over the career guide PDF, and was completely overwhelmed with all the different career options in the game world.
I typically like to follow reputable play style, so playing as a pirate or something sinister like that does not really suit me.
I enjoy combat, group play and solo play as well. Obviously my knowledge about the game world is very low, but I found it very intriguing that career options such as "Software Engineer" or "Musician" existed. Are these bizarre careers part of the game world, or does it mean applying real-world skills towards the game in exchange for some in-game credits?
Also, I'd like to know what some experience players have to say about meta gameplay. What does it all boil down to? Combat? Is there a certain recipe for success? What does wealth do for you in this game?
I look forward to your responses, and I look forward to logging in later tonight!
Pretty much your career is whatever means you use to make isk. What is most important is picking something fun to do, not something you think will make you tons of isk, otherwise, you'll find out that that get rich career might be a dull tedius grind. So in your formative days, you want to experiment with every career you can. Because something that doesn't sound so great might be a lot more fun than something else that sounds better.
Meta is this game is crazy. Corporate espionage by getting in other corps, participating in their forums and providing intel. Or just trying to get a high position in a corp or alliance just to steal from thousands of players when they expect it least. A lot of psychological warfare going on, some alliances use it more than others. Market manipulation, bank robbery. Anything goes so long as it doesn't break EULA. There are two kinds of player. -áThe kind that adapts to the game, and the kind that expect the game to adapt to them. -áDo don't a number 2 on EvE. -áThank you. |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.06.26 07:44:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote:Quote:I enjoy combat, group play and solo play as well. Obviously my knowledge about the game world is very low, but I found it very intriguing that career options such as "Software Engineer" or "Musician" existed. Are these bizarre careers part of the game world, or does it mean applying real-world skills towards the game in exchange for some in-game credits? The latter. For example, some people have gambling services where gambling credit is paid for in ISK. Any sort of game-related service that you can provide (even if out of game) can be paid for in ISK. To be more specific, there is no ingame support for something like this, but CCP allows players to sell EVE related services for ISK.
(This only applies to EVE related services. You can't offer to sell anything else for ISK out of game.)
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn
298
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Posted - 2012.06.26 07:50:00 -
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http://cogdev.net/blink/
Another example of something you can do in EVE.
Somer Blink one of the biggest lotteries in EVE. Not an in game build profession but totally legit within the rules of EVE (ISK for in game items). Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
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CCP Sisyphus
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.26 09:03:00 -
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welcome aboard :)
I'd be interested in reading that "career guide pdf" you mention. Can you provide a link?
The game is about what you make it... You enjoy combat - group and solo. Are you talking about vs other players or against NPCs? If you want to shoot at other players (but not piracy) then try factional warfare and fight for your empire.
Wealth lets you buy stuff. Skills, ships, insurance, clones. Basically isk is what lets you buy improvements (skills) and the equipment to use the skills you have. If you stick to cheap frigates you can easily ignore a lot of wealth issues. If you want to get into advanced/specialised frigates and cruisers then you need a lot more isk to pay for the losses.
Just remember - everything except the skills in your head are meant to be disposable. Dont undock in a ship unless you feel you can replace it easily. - "Dont fly what you cant afford to lose". |
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malaire
446
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Posted - 2012.06.26 09:06:00 -
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CCP Sisyphus wrote:welcome aboard :)
I'd be interested in reading that "career guide pdf" you mention. Can you provide a link? Probably this one: http://community.eveonline.com/careerguide/
It's a bit old, and don't include some known careers like pirating, so I wouldn't mind updated version from whoever made this one.
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
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CCP Sisyphus
C C P C C P Alliance
28
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Posted - 2012.06.26 09:10:00 -
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Ahhh! I remember that. Haven't read that for ages...
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Sin Pew
Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel
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Posted - 2012.06.26 09:17:00 -
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CCP Sisyphus wrote:Ahhh! I remember that. Haven't read that for ages... What?! you don't keep the printed copy under your pillow??? "- You want a sandwich, Bacon?" Support horizontal scrollbars in Eve! Click here, tyvm. |
Ione Hawke
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.26 11:37:00 -
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Hi and welcome,
I would like to add to the advise these good people have provided. As you noted there indeed is a ton of things to do in EVE. Also refer to thise excellent graph What to do in EVE.
Beware that the game in no way limits what you can do, so if you want its perfectly fine to do both mining and pvp. You dont pick a carreer and be stuck with it. At the same time I would like to caution you not to try to many things. Skill training works such that if you specialize heavily you can be competitive with veteran players in a relative short period of time. I guess this is especially important if you want to get into PVP quickly. Being involved with a null sec alliance I often see players with a fairly decent amount of skillpoints (say 10M) discover that most of their current SP are not very useful in their newly chosen PVP career (ie. all galente pilots :)). If you want some guidance into skilling up with pvp in mind you are welcome to contact me.
In the end this is a complex game, and, altho there is a ton of material available online, I would highly recommend to get into touch with felow pilots, join a corp and dont be affraid to ask for advise. (EVE university, Red Federation vs Blue Republic for more pvp oriented introduction) Obviously like in any online platform there are a ton of jerks around, but at the same time you will find plenty of players who are willing to help out. |
Forge Warcry
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.26 12:45:00 -
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Wow thanks a lot for the reply guys. (Btw, I changed my character)'
The community here seems a lot more mature than others I have been a part of.
The career guide linked by Malaire is the one I was referring to earlier.
I am currently in the process of doing the starter agent missions. Thanks to all for the advice! =) |
Brunik Rokbyter
Ideal Machine
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Posted - 2012.06.26 12:59:00 -
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DragonFromHell wrote:I typically like to follow reputable play style, so playing as a pirate or something sinister like that does not really suit me.
Well.. i want to clear something up real quick. You can be HIGHLY reputable and live in places where PVP happens on an every second basis. Killing other players doesn't make you a "blood thirsty pirate"... in most sectors of space it means you are defending your territory.
For instance.... most NPC 0.0 players are in corporations which have "claimed" an area as their own. They defend this area from anyone who comes in and isn't a part of their corporation. Typically, the reason they do this is so that the miners and PVE'ers of their corp can earn money and minerals in peace.
Now, having said that, there is down right piracy... but don't mistake PVP combat and piracy... they are very different things.
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Lyric Lahnder
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2012.06.26 13:56:00 -
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Welcome to EVE
Trust is the most valuable commodity in the game, because of the spying and meta gaming that happens. If you ever cash in on peoples trust in you, you can consider that trust gone for good.
The secret to pvp is choosing your engagements properly. You need to know your ship its natural prey and its natural predators. You only engage targets you know your are suited to engage.
PVP is about knowing how to quickly identify your targets and knowing how to engage them using the ship you have to the best of its abilities. This is why in eve there has never been a "PWN ALL" ship, and no not even titans. If titan losses have reached the hundreds then clearly even they are not invincible.
If you want something fun to do in game PVP is where its at, weather its large in null sec, or FW, or small anywhere PVP never gets old. Noir. and Noir Academy are recruiting apply at www.noirmercs.comI Noir Academy: 60 days old must be able to fly at least one tech II frigate. I Noir. Recruits: 4:1 k/d ratio and can fly tech II cruisers. |
Ano Regni
The Southern Gentleman's Social Club Back To Earth
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Posted - 2012.06.26 16:12:00 -
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Now how do you become a software engineer as a career path, and what can you actually do?
Do I get extra skill attributes for real world experience :D ? The best thing about a boolean is even if you are wrong, you are only off by a bit. |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn
298
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Posted - 2012.06.26 17:44:00 -
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Ano Regni wrote:Now how do you become a software engineer as a career path, and what can you actually do?
Do I get extra skill attributes for real world experience :D ?
By building a 3rd party program like EVEHQ, EVEmon or EFT.
And no you don't get skill attributes. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
Ano Regni
The Southern Gentleman's Social Club Back To Earth
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Posted - 2012.06.26 18:19:00 -
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The v way dragon was sounding up at the top was as if it was an in game career..no? The best thing about a boolean is even if you are wrong, you are only off by a bit. |
Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.26 18:23:00 -
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Thanks for the link to the old career guide. I liked that one a lot. Bring your possibles. |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.06.26 19:24:00 -
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Ano Regni wrote:The v way dragon was sounding up at the top was as if it was an in game career..no? Just read the linked PDF. It lists a lot of "meta careers" which aren't really part of game but could still be thought as EVE careers.
My current career is newbie helping. New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
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