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RenegadeChemist Caldari Poksu Exploration Group	Posted - 2010.01.26 15:36:00 - [1] How I can get this thing cap stable? Would take 13 days for me to get Cybernetics V for HG Crystal set, however I am looking for cheaper solution. [Tengu, Tengu L4 Perma Run Template] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate I have tried HAM version too, and the DPS is nice, but range sucks and can't use rigors sucks too... So I go with HM's. But how I can get this thing into cap stable?
Jim Raynor Caldari Sinister Corporation	Posted - 2010.01.26 15:44:00 - [2] Originally by: RenegadeChemist How I can get this thing cap stable? Would take 13 days for me to get Cybernetics V for HG Crystal set, however I am looking for cheaper solution. [Tengu, Tengu L4 Perma Run Template] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate I have tried HAM version too, and the DPS is nice, but range sucks and can't use rigors sucks too... So I go with HM's. But how I can get this thing into cap stable? CCC rigs ------ I'll make a sig later.
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.01.26 15:47:00 - [3] Cap hardwirings, ccc, using rat specific hardeners, -1 invul +1 sba. Also use 4x bcu, t2 launchers with furys, dissolution sequencer sub and t2 rigors if possible.
RenegadeChemist Caldari Poksu Exploration Group	Posted - 2010.01.26 15:56:00 - [4] Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 Cap hardwirings, ccc, using rat specific hardeners, -1 invul +1 sba. Also use 4x bcu, t2 launchers with furys, dissolution sequencer sub and t2 rigors if possible. I see that dropping one invulnerability field and replacing it with sba helps quite much. But T2 missiles? Like 400 ISK pu... That's expensive.
Mish'Kala Minmatar Eye of Osiris EDGE Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.26 16:09:00 - [5] Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 Cap hardwirings, ccc, using rat specific hardeners, -1 invul +1 sba. Also use 4x bcu, t2 launchers with furys, dissolution sequencer sub and t2 rigors if possible. This man Speaks the Truth. My Fit [Single Booster] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Heavy Missile Launcher II,Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II,Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II,Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II,Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II,Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II,Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Perma runs everything
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.01.26 16:40:00 - [6] switch to a gisti booster
Kenpotchi	Posted - 2010.01.26 16:49:00 - [7] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton switch to a gisti booster ^^this^^
demonfurbie Minmatar Covert-Nexus	Posted - 2010.01.26 16:57:00 - [8] Edited by: demonfurbie on 26/01/2010 16:56:59 [Tengu, Tengu L4 Perma Run Template] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II Republic Fleet Target Painter Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate here ya are not so over tanked and the t2 launchers so ya can use fury ammo and the dc really isnt needed
Kenpotchi	Posted - 2010.01.26 17:27:00 - [9] [Tengu, New Setup 1] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster Pith A-Type Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Shadow Serpentis 10MN Afterburner Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Needs a 5% power grid implant to work. Cap stable and has a 971 def rating, I like having the invulns cuz i dont like to refit. If you cant find a A-Type a C-type works just as good with a 859 def rating. 600 DPS with out implants. Lowgrade crystal set - like having a second SBAII 'Squire' PG8 - +5% to power grid 'Snapshot' ZMH 2000 - 5% increase to heavy missile damage 'Deadeye' ZMA 1000 - 5% decrease to sig radius for all guided missiles (aka better hits) 'Deadeye' ZMS 1000 - 5% increase to explosion velocity (aka better hits) 'Deadeye' ZMM 1000 - 5% increase to launcher rate of fire Defence rating gos up to 1212 with A-type 1071 with C-type, 663 DPS and your missiles hit a tone better kinda like having a rigor/flare rigg on.
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.01.26 17:40:00 - [10] Originally by: RenegadeChemist Like 400 ISK pu... That's expensive. And furys has really high explosion radius. Manufacture them yourself or ask your corpmates. And my suggestion - ignore all l4 tengu fit with less than 4 bcus and all hml fits without rigors...

RenegadeChemist Caldari Poksu Exploration Group	Posted - 2010.01.26 18:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 Originally by: RenegadeChemist Like 400 ISK pu... That's expensive. And furys has really high explosion radius. Manufacture them yourself or ask your corpmates. And my suggestion - ignore all l4 tengu fit with less than 4 bcus and all hml fits without rigors... But how that fourth BCU is worth of fitting it? Minimal increase on DPS, about 100 to volley... That's practically nothing. Anyway, I got my Tengu, took the T2 heavy launchers and did few missions. Furys are alright, I also have HAM's so I'll try them out too. Damn this looks sexy compared to Raven hull ships...
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.01.26 18:26:00 - [12] It IS worth it and that 100 difference on volley can save you one volley on bs or bc... /make that 10 ships and you saved 30 secs.../
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.01.26 19:13:00 - [13] Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 It IS worth it and that 100 difference on volley can save you one volley on bs or bc... /make that 10 ships and you saved 30 secs.../ the higher rof could also save you a rep cycle and another volley! and anyways nothing better for the slot.
Damien Du'Pont	Posted - 2010.01.26 20:12:00 - [14] Originally by: RenegadeChemist Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 Originally by: RenegadeChemist Like 400 ISK pu... That's expensive. And furys has really high explosion radius. Manufacture them yourself or ask your corpmates. And my suggestion - ignore all l4 tengu fit with less than 4 bcus and all hml fits without rigors... But how that fourth BCU is worth of fitting it? Minimal increase on DPS, about 100 to volley... That's practically nothing. Anyway, I got my Tengu, took the T2 heavy launchers and did few missions. Furys are alright, I also have HAM's so I'll try them out too. Damn this looks sexy compared to Raven hull ships... I don't think HAMs will make mission running more efficient based on the fact you will have to spend time traveling to your targets. HAMs have better DPS, but range is something left desires. It works better with PvP, I think. As for ignoring all fits that do not use Rigors, that is bad advice. I use Furies for cruisers and up, and for pesky frigates, I use the precision ammo which deals more damage to the small ships than the furies do (as their designed for).
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.01.26 20:35:00 - [15] Originally by: Damien Du'Pont As for ignoring all fits that do not use Rigors, that is bad advice. Its perfect advice based on on actually using this ship in l4s not just mindless eft warrioring /and fitting tps that have nearly 3x longer cycle than hmls.../.


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