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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.27 23:11:00 -
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Or indeed any decent place in the USA. So here's the thing, I'm fed up with living in the UK after 31 years and I want to move to the US, the problem is I'm not sure how easy it would be nor what requirements there are for entry and citizenship.
Now I know that having good qualifications in priority employment sectors is an advantage, and I have a degree in teaching and a degree in English literature (any spelling errors are due to the tiny keypad on my Ipod and my dyslexia). However, if at all possible I would like to do something other than teach as this isn't an area I want to get "stuck" in, so what other options do I have?
On a slightly less legal,and possibly morally objectionable note, there is also the "marriage for greenvard" issue, one which I'm not seriously entertaining though I would like to cover all possible avenues.
Bearing all that in mind I need some serious suggestions as to how I might achieve my goal. I would like to add that this is something I am taking very seriously, I have no intention of moving to the US and going on welfare, I want to be a productive and active part of American society whichever state and city I end up in. I thankyou for taking the time to read this and I look forward to getting some helpful replies.
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Some people should just stick to Pac Man.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.01.28 00:55:00 -
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Just tell everyone you're Hugh Grants cousin and it'll sort itself in a jiffy.
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.01.28 01:11:00 -
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Or consider moving to Canada which is in a lot of way in a better position then the US. Canada is a commonwealth country which may make things easier and its right next to the States. Vancouver is a fantastic city as is Montreal (but you may have difficulties there without French), Toronto's not my cup of tea but it’s not bad and it’s fairly large so you can generally get what you want anyways.
As for the States, if you’re not coming in as a refugee or something I believe you have to wait 5 years there to get a green card etc. In addition to the political morass it finds itself in along with the economic blow which it is still suffering from. That said I love New York, and LA isn't that bad either if you want big cities. Seattle is also fantastic (would definitely be my first choice were I to move there). Second and third choices would be Norfolk VG or Savannah GR.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.01.28 01:32:00 -
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Moving to the US is fairly easy if you are a natural citizen of the UK and have no criminal record. Making a living here is easy as there are jobs everywhere in the service industry to pay the immediate bills as you look for meaningful employment. The only hitch is if you don't speak american english clearly or have a heavy accent. Though if you just have the normal non ****ney brit accent you will fit in just fine and probably get moar attention from the ladies if you are moderately attractive. Other than that most people have little issues blending in pretty much everywhere* as america really is the worlds racial melting pot.
*Northeast coast is the exception as they are all a bunch of rude anal bastages.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.01.28 06:41:00 -
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how to get Instant US citizenship PLUS extra benefits*
1. Go to Mexico. 2. Learn Spanish. 3. Get a tan. 4. Sneak over the border into the US. 5. $$Profit?
*benefits: The laws don't apply to you. You will be able to drive drunk, not pay your taxes, and get away with not having licenses and permits for every little thing. All of those laws and regulations are strictly for those state-worshipping fat dumb milk cows known as Americans. As an illegal, you have the freedom to do whatever you want, like, well Americans used to at one time.
Seriously, if you are educated and not a member of a victim class, you will not be allowed in unless you cough up money.
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.01.28 07:20:00 -
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My friend, you have it all wrong! I moved to Aus 4 years ago..and i havnt looked back.. I mean seriously, have you seen how many public holidays these guys have?? (Plus the fact they arent in recession+the beaches and women, etc etc)
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Lord Windu
Echelon Solutions Echelon.
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Posted - 2010.01.28 08:16:00 -
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Canada and Australia both have national health-care I believe, whereas the USA doesn't ((not sure what the status is on the health-care bill at the moment though)).
Unless the USA is definatley getting their own equivalent of the NHS or the person moving is very wealthy then I don't know why anyone would move from the UK to USA. My dream place to live is New York but thats a lottery dream for me due to what I have read/watched about the health and wellbeing issues. ------
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.01.28 08:37:00 -
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No free health here in Aus, but medicare does good rebates.. TBH its the only - about this country..but you get over it :)
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Tallaran Kouros
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.28 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Cutter Isaacson Edited by: Cutter Isaacson on 28/01/2010 00:06:15 Or indeed any decent place in the USA. So here's the thing, I'm fed up with living in the UK after 31 years and I want to move to the US, the problem is I'm not sure how easy it would be nor what requirements there are for entry and citizenship.
Without going into details, I have some experience with the US immigration process and it is neither simple nor straightforward.
Quote: Now I know that having good qualifications in priority employment sectors is an advantage, and I have a degree in teaching and a degree in English literature (any spelling errors are due to the tiny keypad on my Ipod and my dyslexia).
To be truly honest, you are barking up the wrong tree.
If you want to move there as a skilled immigrant you need to have a job offer and the prospective employer would need to file a petition to sponsor you for your visa BEFORE you start work and BEFORE you enter the US.
The visa is valid for that employer ONLY and it is NOT a general work permit. If you want to change jobs you will need to find another employer willing to sponsor you for your visa beforehand.
Understandably this is a lot of work for an employer and they don't like doing this.
Additionally, they MUST give priority to US Citizens/PRs and before filing a petition to employ a skilled foreigner, they need to demonstrate to the immigration authorities that they are unable to find a suitably qualified US Citizen/PR.
You might be qualified for the job, but there are a great deal many teachers already in the US that I doubt there is a sufficient shortage.
Quote: However, if at all possible I would like to do something other than teach as this isn't an area I want to get "stuck" in, so what other options do I have?
Very few.
You can obtain a visa as a business investor but you need significant amounts of capital, you need to start up a new business and you need to employ a specified number of US Citizens. I forget the exact figures, but $250,000 and 5 US employees probably isn't too far off the ballpark.
Quote: On a slightly less legal,and possibly morally objectionable note, there is also the "marriage for greenvard" issue, one which I'm not seriously entertaining though I would like to cover all possible avenues.
Again, not as straightforward as you think.
The US Citizen would need to petition the immigration authorities for your visa and then you are interviewed by the nearest US Embassy. You need to prove to them that the relationship is genuine and IF they believe you and IF they grant the visa, you cannot claim permanent residency until you have been in the US and living together as man and wife for a number of years.
When you file for your PR you need to again satisfy the authorities that the relationship is genuine and ongoing and not a sham marriage.
Quote: Bearing all that in mind I need some serious suggestions as to how I might achieve my goal.
Give up?
Seriously - it's more hassle than it's worth to emigrate to the US and there are far, far better countries to move to.
Some of the suggestions in the thread are good and I know for a fact that you can apply as a skilled immigrant to Canada and get a work permit without needing a sponsor or a job offer, assuming you have enough points to qualify (your age may go against you slightly).
Australia is also good and I think you can likewise apply as a skilled immigrant.
Ever considered elsewhere within the EU? You can live and work in any member state without restriction as a British Citizen.
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Shanghai Lee
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Posted - 2010.01.28 15:45:00 -
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The main thing youll need is money. Once you get here youll have plenty of time to sort out employment and legal issues etc but nyc is expensive and not an easy place to move to if you dont already know someone. Teaching may be viable to some extent but as english is the native language it wont get you as far as some other places. That said, a friend of mine from italy lived here for many years as a teacher of italian without a greencard or citizenship. In fact he was an adjunct professor at nyu for six or seven years. He later married some american chick which solved any possible future citizenship complications. Of course some people do run into problems but these usually take the form of long drawn out legal processes (often years long) during which you are more or less free to do what you want. No one that i know personally has actually been deported but im sure it does happen. Again it seems like a case of "money talks bullsh*t walks (back home)"
But nyc is a fine place. Ive been in brooklyn for about ten years and its the first place ive lived that i would hesitate to move away from... |
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.28 16:07:00 -
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Right, about as depressingly impossible as I thought. Some very helpful info there which is greatly appreciated. As for people suggesting oz or somewhere else in Europe the answer is no, the US is where I want to be so I'll have to have a long talk with a friend of mine to see if he is ok with sponsoring me and giving me a job.
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Some people should just stick to Pac Man.
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.01.28 17:04:00 -
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Stick to the northeastern states the culutres there are more familiar to what you're used to and need to be you can flee to canada rather easily and since there is strong english culutre to the north east area you can very likely find specailty resturants and stores should you ever get home sick being ran by immgrant europeans like yourself or thier decendants.
Current Job market of hirable people is pertty horrid floating around 12% of possible working peeps, then they want to shove the cost of the new goverement health care on the employers which will lead to more job cuts as they cant afford the same number of people anymore. Taxes keep going up and up and the govermetn keeps pulling more money out of thin air, then wasting it on stuff less useful than medicare or the military, like a road sign delcaring how many jobs are planned to be saved by stimulus money, or a bridge that goes nowhere.
Even the higher educated people are in the highs for joblessness.
There are tonns of jobs in the states regardless, just it seems there isnt enough qualified people for them all. Under educated or over educated.
Economy overall isnt that bad the dollar's buying power with low end every day items still hasnt changed barely from what i noticed a decade ago. However I am quite sure the higher priced items such as houses shifted a bit but thats currenlty offset by the desperate sales.
Youll hate the polotics in the states if you think very independently because so much of it is based on lemmings now adays, get a good alpha lemming going and youll see the crowds of mindless folks follow them. I seriously thought we were more educated than this but meh media brainwashing on all fronts.
Youll will quickly find out every state is almost its own country complete with culture and quirks and accents.
In general we are okay people, few nice folks here and there but in comparison to japan, we are a bunch of @#%^@holes, stay out and away from improvrished areas though its asking for alot more trouble mostly.
Immigration isnt to bad for most europeans especially if they speak understanable english already and most of the time they're never viewed in a negative way by mainstream where as opposed to neightbors to the south who overfill the annual quota every year.
Schools i know are looking for teachers still if you cant seem to find a job anywhere else.
Cellphones arent bad but some are very bad so shop ahead of time.
We are not the best drivers in the world but we're alot better than korea's signs are only a suggestion driving.
We still use the english system for everything in measurements.
entertainment wise theres still plenty of it from the classic plays to movie theaters to decent selection of internet and cell phones in most areas cable channels also carry BBC channel which is england based so you get to see some stuff from home at least.
Watch out for credit cards they are out to get you and will devour your soul should you abuse it even lightly.
telemarketers are annoying as heck youll keep getting them until you pay a small fee to get your phone number blisted on the adverts.
other than that if you do move here wish you good luck in all of your adventures, and always keep an escaple plan agvailable should things go very very very wrong. (like health care passing causing massive ecnomic/medical crash)
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Caldari Citizen20090217
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Posted - 2010.01.28 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Statue of Liberty/American guiding ideology
...Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me...
So America is ridiculously hard to get into? Ideology implementation fail.
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Jago Kain
Amarr Ramm's RDI Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.28 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jello Biafra (Great Wall by the Dead Kennedys)
...Give us your poor, Your tired and your weak We'll send 'em right back To their certain death
Fixed that for you.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.01.28 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox Stick to the northeastern states the culutres there are more familiar to what you're used to
Have you ever been to the northeast US? They hate everyone especially foreigners. Though if he is used to chavs ****ty attitudes then the northeast might work for a bit..
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Sister Tertia
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Posted - 2010.01.28 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cutter Isaacson Right, about as depressingly impossible as I thought. Some very helpful info there which is greatly appreciated. As for people suggesting oz or somewhere else in Europe the answer is no, the US is where I want to be
Mind if I ask why you are so keen on the US?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.01.28 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Caldari Citizen20090217
Originally by: Statue of Liberty/American guiding ideology
...Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me...
So America is ridiculously hard to get into? Ideology implementation fail.
Yeah well what seemed to happen when america had the open door policy was that countries would send their criminals, the insane and any other combination of the unwelcome parts of their own population to solve their own internal social issues. So sue us if we wised up and made it difficult for people to get in unless they have something to offer. It still should be fairly easy for the op to get into the US and eventually get citizenship as he is a UK citizen with usable skills especially as he has someone in the US he can reference.
Start the process then ride it out and you will get in.
Originally by: Sister Tertia
Originally by: Cutter Isaacson Right, about as depressingly impossible as I thought. Some very helpful info there which is greatly appreciated. As for people suggesting oz or somewhere else in Europe the answer is no, the US is where I want to be
Mind if I ask why you are so keen on the US?
Hey! The US is an awesome place to live. Crime is nonexistant as long as you don't stray into the poorer sections and make an arse of yourself and living is zomg easy even with the cheesiest job as long as you are responsible with your money. The US is like one big huge fun park.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.28 19:28:00 -
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Hi again. Love the quote btw, seems the open door policy of times past is gone for good. And as to why I want to move to the US instead of Oz or somewhere else in Europe is because I happen to like America. I spent years going back and forth between here and there and I can honestly say I felt more at home there than I do here.
More tips and info please people, maybe there is a Brit in EvE that's already made the move and can tell me what it's like living there.
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Some people should just stick to Pac Man.
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.01.29 04:50:00 -
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Aye as the other posters have mentioned the amount of red tape and bureaucratic idiocy associated is staggering. I imagine Canada is easier in that regard.
If that does not put you off, I would not recommend New York as its expensive to live there and f***ing cold in the winter. How about somewhere cheaper(matter of opinion) and warmer like Las Vegas?
On that note are you planning to teach English lit at the college level or primary school level? That may make a difference where you may want to locate in the States. In this economy, where the work is may have an impact on where you choose to settle.
Just some food for thought. PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.01.31 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Nova Fox Stick to the northeastern states the culutres there are more familiar to what you're used to
Have you ever been to the northeast US? They hate everyone especially foreigners. Though if he is used to chavs ****ty attitudes then the northeast might work for a bit..
Lived in Maine accent wasnt to bad but the weather was so damned cold it ruined every snow day for me, never manged to get a snowman built there, though the short 2 month summers where welcomed for the warmth not the mosquito swarms. I visited new york a few times never picked up too much foringer hate there, Its nowhere near as bad as it is in nevada texas or mississippi or alabama. Florida I never got to meet too much of the people there, but if they're tolerant for most of the people outside thier state whos to say they're the same with folks out of country.
California is utterly messed up though dont know how they shot thier own foot off, wait a minute, guns are frowned upon they probably sawed it off or stepped in a bear trap or something.
Visited Alaska for two weeks, never again due to envrionment.
Been to hawaii but i was too young to remember anything there.
I stepped foot in mexico thats about it, took an hour long drive though canada, not bad folks as some comedians point them out to be, cept the folks in quebec, not as bad as the folks in france.
Lived a long while in Japan, missed it alot.
Visited Korea is cheap if your looking for look alikes, Singapore is cheap, Hong Kong is also cheap for electronics that work, Russia nice folks mostly, Tiawan full of scary people, Singapore the cleanest place I ever been to. All of these countries about a week each.
Camped in South Korea for a whole month, it gets cold there in winter but nothing a gas stove and a good sleeping bag cant fix. Didnt get to see much of the people other than they like star craft and whopped my rear end to damned quickly and the folks across the DMZ are 'we're going to shoot you dead serious' about not letting you go back if you cross that bridge, dont do it on a dare.
In Australia I been to the very homely Brisbane, middle of nowhere Darwin where a giant red kangarro gave me and a few of my friends a lesson in phsyics at midnight. The very boisterous Syndey which I didnt have time to fully explore, I was rather upset the opera house was closed for renovations during my visit to there a few years back.
Got sick for indonesia so I had to skip that adventure.
Other than that Japan is my favorite country and would like to go back one day. Til them im stuck in hippy land. I do say not bad for only 25 years old. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 10JAN10
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