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Shigsy
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: j3bus Also holy **** Negative Ten. Do you guys sleep?
Check the kills, 99% of them are just smartbombed shuttles and pod.
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j3bus
Caldari Point Blank. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Shigsy
Originally by: j3bus Also holy **** Negative Ten. Do you guys sleep?
Check the kills, 99% of them are just smartbombed shuttles and pod.
That explains it then.
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Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 29/01/2010 18:15:37
Originally by: j3bus
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Shigsy tldr, don't chestbeat when the game is currently unplayable with the numbers you bring
Keep telling yourself that and then look at your own and your allies KB's and see all those pos you loose daily to 30-200 man NC fleets. Those are numbers that 1 1/2 week ago you and your side could bring around the clock.
Don't let facts ruin a good lie.
Morsus Mihi: Members: 2800 - Kills: 9015 - Kills per member: 3.2 IT Alliance: Members: 4590 - Kills: 8268 - Kills per member: 1.8 Against ALL Authorities: Members: 2026 - Kills: 7902 Kills per member: 3.9 GoonSwarm: Members: 5568 - Kills: 7428 - Kills per member: 1.3 Triumvirate.: Members: 814 - Kills: 6487 - Kills per member: 7.9 Atlas Alliance: Members: 3004 - Kills: 6281 - Kills per member: 2.0 SOLAR FLEET: Members: 1074 - Kills: 5526 - Kills per member: 5.1 Ushra'Khan: Members: 1371 - Kills: 5409 - Kills per member: 3.9 RAZOR Alliance: Members: 2232 - Kills: 5380 - Kills per member: 2.4 Negative Ten.: Members: 164 - Kills: 4878 - Kills per member: 29.7
Here is the top killers for the month and their number of members, also adding number of kills per member to show how active the majority of alliances are throughout their member base.
Notice that Tri are head and shoulders above any NC Alliance in that department, if we had given up the fight, then surely our kills would be a lot lower? All we have done is changed tactics, of course you are taking the stations, but all you are doing is taking what you lost, you are not making any significant inroads in a war. We have changed styles a bit to get more engaging fights where we can control the outcome and not have to rely on server flipping a coin in our favour.
If we were ducking out of fights constantly as you suggest, then we would not be on this at all. The fact we are just pours cold water over your red hot theory.
Also holy **** Negative Ten. Do you guys sleep?
Lmao. Talk about missing the point. Raw alliance numbers is like the most useless figure ever. But still I'll humour you. Now do the same for the last week and notice the difference since that was what we were discussing. I'm sure karb can pull the figures --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |
Betty Boom
Caldari SPECTRE Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.29 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky Someone just pointed out that the NC killboard banner has a 300 banner on it. Since when did a carebear coalition think of themselves as the Spartans in 300??
I found also this NC recrutiment trailer.
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j3bus
Caldari Point Blank. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 29/01/2010 18:15:37
Originally by: j3bus
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Shigsy tldr, don't chestbeat when the game is currently unplayable with the numbers you bring
Keep telling yourself that and then look at your own and your allies KB's and see all those pos you loose daily to 30-200 man NC fleets. Those are numbers that 1 1/2 week ago you and your side could bring around the clock.
Don't let facts ruin a good lie.
Morsus Mihi: Members: 2800 - Kills: 9015 - Kills per member: 3.2 IT Alliance: Members: 4590 - Kills: 8268 - Kills per member: 1.8 Against ALL Authorities: Members: 2026 - Kills: 7902 Kills per member: 3.9 GoonSwarm: Members: 5568 - Kills: 7428 - Kills per member: 1.3 Triumvirate.: Members: 814 - Kills: 6487 - Kills per member: 7.9 Atlas Alliance: Members: 3004 - Kills: 6281 - Kills per member: 2.0 SOLAR FLEET: Members: 1074 - Kills: 5526 - Kills per member: 5.1 Ushra'Khan: Members: 1371 - Kills: 5409 - Kills per member: 3.9 RAZOR Alliance: Members: 2232 - Kills: 5380 - Kills per member: 2.4 Negative Ten.: Members: 164 - Kills: 4878 - Kills per member: 29.7
Here is the top killers for the month and their number of members, also adding number of kills per member to show how active the majority of alliances are throughout their member base.
Notice that Tri are head and shoulders above any NC Alliance in that department, if we had given up the fight, then surely our kills would be a lot lower? All we have done is changed tactics, of course you are taking the stations, but all you are doing is taking what you lost, you are not making any significant inroads in a war. We have changed styles a bit to get more engaging fights where we can control the outcome and not have to rely on server flipping a coin in our favour.
If we were ducking out of fights constantly as you suggest, then we would not be on this at all. The fact we are just pours cold water over your red hot theory.
Also holy **** Negative Ten. Do you guys sleep?
Lmao. Talk about missing the point. Raw alliance numbers is like the most useless figure ever. But still I'll humour you. Now do the same for the last week and notice the difference since that was what we were discussing. I'm sure karb can pull the figures
I don't think so really, because most fleet battles weren't as bloody as they should be because of gun cycling issues, now we are being more focused on fights we have control in, funny really because since then there has been a number of fights, just you have lost very badly in them. (you guys seem to be awful at fighting hac's for some reason). Just because your number of kills against us has gone down doesn't mean we are not fighting, just means you are losing by bigger margins.
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 29/01/2010 18:15:37
Originally by: j3bus
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Shigsy tldr, don't chestbeat when the game is currently unplayable with the numbers you bring
Keep telling yourself that and then look at your own and your allies KB's and see all those pos you loose daily to 30-200 man NC fleets. Those are numbers that 1 1/2 week ago you and your side could bring around the clock.
Don't let facts ruin a good lie.
Morsus Mihi: Members: 2800 - Kills: 9015 - Kills per member: 3.2 IT Alliance: Members: 4590 - Kills: 8268 - Kills per member: 1.8 Against ALL Authorities: Members: 2026 - Kills: 7902 Kills per member: 3.9 GoonSwarm: Members: 5568 - Kills: 7428 - Kills per member: 1.3 Triumvirate.: Members: 814 - Kills: 6487 - Kills per member: 7.9 Atlas Alliance: Members: 3004 - Kills: 6281 - Kills per member: 2.0 SOLAR FLEET: Members: 1074 - Kills: 5526 - Kills per member: 5.1 Ushra'Khan: Members: 1371 - Kills: 5409 - Kills per member: 3.9 RAZOR Alliance: Members: 2232 - Kills: 5380 - Kills per member: 2.4 Negative Ten.: Members: 164 - Kills: 4878 - Kills per member: 29.7
Here is the top killers for the month and their number of members, also adding number of kills per member to show how active the majority of alliances are throughout their member base.
Notice that Tri are head and shoulders above any NC Alliance in that department, if we had given up the fight, then surely our kills would be a lot lower? All we have done is changed tactics, of course you are taking the stations, but all you are doing is taking what you lost, you are not making any significant inroads in a war. We have changed styles a bit to get more engaging fights where we can control the outcome and not have to rely on server flipping a coin in our favour.
If we were ducking out of fights constantly as you suggest, then we would not be on this at all. The fact we are just pours cold water over your red hot theory.
Also holy **** Negative Ten. Do you guys sleep?
Lmao. Talk about missing the point. Raw alliance numbers is like the most useless figure ever. But still I'll humour you. Now do the same for the last week and notice the difference since that was what we were discussing. I'm sure karb can pull the figures
Actually this thread is about NC thinking they are Spartans. Kind of like if CCP had a "This game has ZERO lag!" plastered across the top of their web page.
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Douglas Pearce
Caldari Music Martinis and Misanthropy
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Posted - 2010.01.29 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Fred0 The reasoning goes like this: 1. These hostile pos's we're killing, they're everywhere. 2. Our hostiles, they are docked in every station.
Spartans dedicated thier life to combat, not mine like the seven dwarfs...
hahahha. Epic.
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Jay Dilla
Caldari M. Corp Engineering Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2010.01.29 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: Jay Dilla on 29/01/2010 18:53:26 Edited by: Jay Dilla on 29/01/2010 18:52:43 Tri propoganda machine working hard. Tri complains about NC numbers, then bring 700 to take p-2 - check Tri laughs at bombers defending towers, then bring their own failbombsquads to defend towers - check Tri compare their individual kb against whole NC - check Tri claims victory of taking geminate and vale by hardly being there- check anyways it seems only Tri cares about their efficiency status to bring it as the indicator of size of their epeen And yes keep complaining about numbers more, as I really want to see how many people and different alliances you will get for p-2 defence.
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Sareita Nebula
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jay Dilla Edited by: Jay Dilla on 29/01/2010 18:53:26 Edited by: Jay Dilla on 29/01/2010 18:52:43 Tri propoganda machine working hard.
Tri complains about NC numbers, then bring 700 to 1K+ to take p-2 - check Tri compare their individual kb against whole NC and is still better - check Tri propaganda claims islands and 2 regions that we never lost - check Tri complain about lack of forging km's - check
anyways it seems only MH cares about their status as homeless to bring it as the indicator of size of their epeen And yes keep complaining about numbers more, as I really want to see how many people and different alliances you will get for p-2 defense, as we already force few of our friend to lose everything to save as.
Agreed! --
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j3bus
Caldari Point Blank. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jay Dilla Tri propoganda machine working hard. Tri complains about NC numbers, then bring 700 to take p-2 - check Tri laughs at bombers defending towers, then bring their own failbombsquads to defend towers - check Tri compare their individual kb against whole NC - check anyways it seems only Tri cares about their efficiency status to bring it as the indicator of size of their epeen And yes keep complaining about numbers more, as I really want to see how many people and different alliances you will get for p-2 defence.
I'm hardly complaining about numbers, you are bringing what is needed to win. I have no problem with that, if you expect us to fight in fleet to fleet combat then bring less so the server can handle it (if you don't care about the fight then continue as you are). Don't go bringing server breaking numbers and complain we won't fight.
What I am having a go at is the fact you accuse us of giving up the fight, when we are killing just as much now as we did before but not losing as much because we are not going all out slugfest.
We have adjusted our tactics, just like you adjusted your tactics by giving up Geminate (and partly) Vale, to get where you are now. If your sole intention is to stop us making in-grounds in Pure Blind and Fade then you are succeeding, but neither side are hardly winning (except Atlas). Whilst we can not possibly take any more space here we are going to kill as much as we possibly can instead.
It's a good war (apart from lag). I am looking forward to it continuing, no one said war is won and lost in a few weeks, it should be a long drawn out affair and hopefully as CCP get closer to breaking the lag curse, we will get bigger and better fights and maybe then we can change focus again. I not long returned to eve after a long break and must say I am enjoying it a lot more now than I did before I rage quit. That's with the lag, without it... I can't go on or I will expose my raging boner that is forming.
Anyway, this forum is about smacking each other, so probably last rational post from me for a while.
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Garulf Hirgon
Gallente Burning Technologies Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: j3bus How to be a successful coalition...
1) Split up your forces and fight the 2 front war. 2) Lose some stations in both regions. 3) Create a load of bitter whine threads blaming poor game design for the defeats. 4) Realise that a two front war can't be won because they are complete cack. 5) Send everyone to fight the smaller, less threatening coalition, in order to try and build morale or give the impression of causing serious damage. 6) Lose 2 regions before they manage to take one of the stations they lost. 7) Post on CAOD to show everyone how successful they have been in purging the attackers.
quoted for emphasis Inappropriate Signature Locked. StevieSG |
riverini
Gallente MOTHER-CORP Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: j3bus fap! fap! fap!.
zzzzzz...
tl;dr...
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j3bus
Caldari Point Blank. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: riverini
Originally by: j3bus fap! fap! fap!.
zzzzzz...
tl;dr...
Oh it's you, it's lucky you have all them personalities or it would be impossible to take giving up a region to save Pure Blind.
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Kronos Hopeslayer
Minmatar Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Kronos Hopeslayer on 29/01/2010 19:26:56
Originally by: j3bus
I'm hardly complaining about numbers, you are bringing what is needed to win. I have no problem with that, if you expect us to fight in fleet to fleet combat then bring less so the server can handle it (if you don't care about the fight then continue as you are). Don't go bringing server breaking numbers and complain we won't fight.
Really, we're bringing too many numbers? Well, here take a look at some KB stats since Tri seems to justify their sole existence on them it should help prove my point.
This is the large towers MM has killed this week. Take a look at the numbers used to shoot the towers.
http://kb.morsus-mihi.org/?&scl_id=37
I think you'll see we've been bringing some pretty reasonable numbers to fight with, you all just chose to wuss out and not fight.
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: j3bus
How to be a successful coalition...
1) Die multiple times to NC 2) Reform and achieve absolutely nothing in EVE except to die again.
I agree.
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j3bus
Caldari Point Blank. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kronos Hopeslayer Edited by: Kronos Hopeslayer on 29/01/2010 19:26:56
Originally by: j3bus
I'm hardly complaining about numbers, you are bringing what is needed to win. I have no problem with that, if you expect us to fight in fleet to fleet combat then bring less so the server can handle it (if you don't care about the fight then continue as you are). Don't go bringing server breaking numbers and complain we won't fight.
Really, we're bringing too many numbers? Well, here take a look at some KB stats since Tri seems to justify their sole existence on them it should help prove my point.
This is the large towers MM has killed this week. Take a look at the numbers used to shoot the towers.
http://kb.morsus-mihi.org/?&scl_id=37
I think you'll see we've been bringing some pretty reasonable numbers to fight with, you all just chose to wuss out and not fight.
Look at the times they are killed, during the day mainly. We never have many during the day, Tri would be lucky to get 30 people at that time on a CTA. Before we changed stance people were urged to set stront timers to come out in the evening, looks like we are not bothering with that any more though. Look at when they come out in the evening, it always like 180+ on the mails. That's not including the support and 20+ guardians you normally have. Considering the server craps out most of the time when 400 are in system (especially on non-reinforced nodes), it might explain why there is not an urgent rush to go and fight you.
You are doing a good job killing pos etc, we will pick when and how we will fight. That's the beauty of a game like eve, there is so much choice.
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LTD THOR
Caldari Liga Freier Terraner Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:52:00 -
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no WI posters anymore? ME, your time has come! Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.StevieSG |
Spyra Gryra
Amarr Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:01:00 -
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Lotta words up in here.
I like the banner, it made me do a girly giggle.
My corp and alliance are the very best pvpers in the entire history of video games. |
kyrieee
Gallente Psykotic Meat Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:05:00 -
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19:00 also too early for you?
http://wialliance.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5687024
( http://www.northern-coalition.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=819695 )
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Spyra Gryra
Amarr Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: kyrieee 19:00 also too early for you?
http://wialliance.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5687024
( http://www.northern-coalition.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=819695 )
You killed Soraya Kha'marr. For that you have my thanks.
My corp and alliance are the very best pvpers in the entire history of video games. |
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Xeumai
Minmatar The Last Nine
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky Someone just pointed out that the NC killboard banner has a 300 banner on it. Since when did a carebear coalition think of themselves as the Spartans in 300??
When has Triumvirate. been triumvirate in the past few years?
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Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: LTD THOR no WI posters anymore? ME, your time has come!
I think we're bored of poasting in omg your such blobbers, look at how awesome my killboard is whilst I spin in station threads.
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j3bus
Caldari Point Blank. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: kyrieee 19:00 also too early for you?
http://wialliance.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5687024
( http://www.northern-coalition.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=819695 )
Trying to figure out what your point is. Isn't the argument that we don't fight? Granted that doesn't look good results wise, however apart from showing you killed some ships, I am not sure what that has added to the argument? In fact it's in counter to what you lot have been rambling on about for the last few pages.
So, yeah, what exactly was the point in that?
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Jay Dilla
Caldari M. Corp Engineering Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jay Dilla on 29/01/2010 20:32:43 Edited by: Jay Dilla on 29/01/2010 20:32:20 Edited by: Jay Dilla on 29/01/2010 20:31:34
Originally by: Sareita Nebula
Originally by: Jay Dilla Edited by: Jay Dilla on 29/01/2010 18:53:26 Edited by: Jay Dilla on 29/01/2010 18:52:43 Tri propoganda machine working hard.
Tri complains about NC numbers, then bring 700 to 1K+ to take p-2 - check Tri compare their individual kb against whole NC and is still better - check Tri propaganda claims islands and 2 regions that we never lost - check Tri complain about lack of forging km's - check
anyways it seems only MH cares about their status as homeless to bring it as the indicator of size of their epeen And yes keep complaining about numbers more, as I really want to see how many people and different alliances you will get for p-2 defense, as we already force few of our friend to lose everything to save as.
Agreed!
You are not very smart one, are you? 800 is the highest NC has brought in this war so far and it was a week ago. when comparing individual kb against coalition, the first is always going to be better, that was kinda the whole ironic point of that, but u seem not to get it. MH has never made anyone leave their home, fighting 2 fronts hasnt been a good idea evah, just pointing out since you cant figure that out by yourself. JC- never was an island. I don't see how correcting my american english makes you look any better
And apart from the lag, this war has been very interesting, eve has been stagnant for far too long. I just hope CCP can actually do something about reducing the lag so we can spam f1/f2... instead of post button.
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Graalum
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lrrp Edited by: Lrrp on 29/01/2010 14:01:56
Originally by: j3bus
We have accepted that the stations will be retaken and are waiting to see what you do when you have taken them. Whats your next move because ours is dependent on your level of stupidity, I am expecting it to be something very stupid as per the usual NC tradition.
The only stupidity I see is Tri coming back in a repeat attempt to fail. You never have been successful against us. Keep trying tho, keep getting new unsuspecting corp to help in your cause. When they see what a meat grinder you lured them into, what a complete isk sink they are throwing their assets at, how long will they stay with you? Bottom line, if the old BoB nap in its prime couldn't take us, just how do you think you will?
While the term "carebear" keeps cropping up as a propaganda tool, the real word you want to remember is "Relentless". We will keep coming at you, destroying everything you put up. When your wallets run dry and your nappy allies bow out, Tri will do the one thing it is good at. What are you now? Tri4?
you're in tgrad
heh
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Spyra Gryra
Amarr Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:38:00 -
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This thread is steadily gaining momentum and I don't like where it is going.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:55:00 -
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To ze forumz! Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Zymurgist |
Caleb Fury
Amarr Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: j3bus I believe is was the soles of my feet, the connection occured as I was curb stomping them.
Friggin Classic!
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D'ceet
Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Meno Theaetetus
Originally by: LTD THOR no WI posters anymore? ME, your time has come!
I think we're bored of poasting in omg your such blobbers, look at how awesome my killboard is whilst I spin in station threads.
dude, thats how i play eve, spin my archon in ROIR-Y, post on CAOD, and smack local.
dont judge it till you try it.
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hahaha what the christ?!
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Sareita Nebula
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.29 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jay Dilla
You are not very smart one, are you? - Quite the opposite :)
800 is the highest NC has brought in this war so far and it was a week ago. - So from many thousands of characters on your disposal and you came all in one place and you can gather 800 ppl! This is what, 5% from a total? Participation problems?
when comparing individual kb against coalition, the first is always going to be better, that was kinda the whole ironic point of that, but u seem not to get it. Gratz, you have been trolled in troll response of troll statement. Double trolled, just like you are double pounded.
MH has never made anyone leave their home, fighting 2 fronts hasnt been a good idea evah, just pointing out since you cant figure that out by yourself. - Sure it's a NC core leaders decision. Though that MH can make someone to leave their space is even more laughable then FACT that NC "ask politely" their pets to leave their home for you, just to boost morale of others. I am sure you was against such humiliating attitude toward your brothers in arm. Didn't you? Anyway, when will you tell them, that you don't need them and they can go to save their wifes and children's at home (what is left anyway) instead of saving yours? I mean if you want them to hold your hand, then why such talks? If not, why don't release them to protect their own property instead of yours?
JC- never was an island. - True! What about P-2? Are you new around?
I don't see how correcting my american english makes you look any better - I don't know, I don't even notice, but you are quite impressed actually. To be honest english isn't my first language, it's hard to say it is even my second. But afaik grammar police need new recruits, I believe you will fit well there.
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