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Ravenclaw2kk
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:25:00 -
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OK, i'm really ****ed off now...
Followed all C&P's advice to avoid gankers..
Iteron IV fully tanked.. Anti-thermal and EM rigs, shield extenders and shield hardeners, I-Stabs for quick align. ATK flying.. (NOT AFK)
Still get damn well ganked! This time it hurt....300m worth damnit :(
2010.01.29 14:16:00
Victim: xxxxxx Corp: University of Caille Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Iteron Mark IV System: Juunigaishi Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 2866
Involved parties:
Name: xxxxx (laid the final blow) Security: -2.8 Corp: Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Alliance: Aeternus. Faction: NONE Ship: Armageddon Weapon: Mega Afocal Pulse Maser I Damage Done: 2866
Destroyed items:
Republic Fleet EMP S, Qty: 100000 (Cargo) Inertia Stabilizers II, Qty: 2 Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction, Qty: 2 Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I, Qty: 2 Republic Fleet EMP M, Qty: 110000 (Cargo)
Dropped items:
Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot M, Qty: 20000 (Cargo) Republic Fleet Fusion M, Qty: 50610 (Cargo) Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L, Qty: 20000 (Cargo) Republic Fleet Fusion L, Qty: 27349 (Cargo) Inertia Stabilizers II Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S, Qty: 14000 (Cargo) Magnetic Scattering Amplifier I Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Republic Fleet EMP L, Qty: 20000 (Cargo)
So balls to all you guys who say ganking can be avoided
(still 6-7 days away from t2 indys)
Laugh/Flame on.......
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:29:00 -
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why didnt you just WAIT till you had a blockade runner? are you completely ******ed, *** lol
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Ravenclaw2kk
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:33:00 -
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gotta buy a plex b4 i will get blockade runner
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Nimsir
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ravenclaw2kk
Damage Taken: 2866
Seems to me you didn't have it tanked at all.
Its pretty easy to get a Iteron IV to 6000 hp, with about 14k effective HP while not killing your cargo space.
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Ravenclaw2kk
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:40:00 -
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look at the KM.. it is tanked 3 x MSE 3x resistance 1x Extender (Thermal was my highest resist, next being EM)
Alpha is king of ganking
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Nimsir
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:49:00 -
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but no damage control II, and slack EM resist.
Next time go like this:
DC II Whatever Whatever
MSE II x3 INV II
Whatever
Anti-EM screen I Defence Field Ext x2
Also don't carry that much isk value in a t1 hauler.
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Nuts Nougat
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ravenclaw2kk look at the KM.. it is tanked 3 x MSE 3x resistance 1x Extender (Thermal was my highest resist, next being EM)
Alpha is king of ganking
Killmails are currently bugged and show only the last gun (or volley if your guns are stacked) damage if you kill a target very quickly. :ccp: ---
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:51:00 -
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Don't know if it is doable for you, cargo wise, but I fly a tanked BC if I have to haul really expensive stuff. Using a T1 indy for anything but plain trash is dangerous nowadays.
If you make your own battleship you can even make a profit from insurance payouts due to low mineral prices, which leaves only the security hit to deter someone from suicide ganking anything. I heard of people getting ganked for 25 mil + cargo's.
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Trisa Li
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ravenclaw2kk OK, i'm really ****ed off now...
Followed all C&P's advice to avoid gankers..
So balls to all you guys who say ganking can be avoided
(still 6-7 days away from t2 indys)
Laugh/Flame on.......
Apparently you missed that bit about not transporting 300m isk of cargo in a 300k isk ship.
But hisec is safe, right?
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:23:00 -
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Yeah, I agree. 300mil worth of stuff in a T1 indy is asking to be ganked, tbh.
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Ravenclaw2kk
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nimsir but no damage control II, and slack EM resist.
Next time go like this:
DC II Whatever Whatever
MSE II x3 INV II
Whatever
Anti-EM screen I Defence Field Ext x2
Also don't carry that much isk value in a t1 hauler.
I highly Doubt it would have made any difference at all
Just so the C7P community know... This topic has a dual purpose.. The first is to cry, of course. The second is to educate - Nothing it safe in a T1 hauler at all, tanked or untanked, ATK or AFK. I just regret listening to the community and wasting many hours making pointless jumps ATK when i coulda done it all afk with the same result.
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Syringe
Incura
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:26:00 -
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I don't see anything here about using a scout...
Besides, I kinda like the cut of your jib, sailor...
--------- War isn't the answer. However, the objective isn't to provide answers rather than eliminate the question. |
ACE81
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:26:00 -
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Risk vs reward go both ways m8 sorry to her it didnt work for ya but thats why its risk vs reward better luck next time
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Smartus Maximus
Gallente Somali Coastguard Authority
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:28:00 -
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Are you dumb?
Of course you can't transport stuff without risk. You can take steps to minimize risk, but you can never eliminate it. Even with a T2 blockade runner, ATK, covops cloak, WTZ, there is still a chance that you'll get ganked.
Valuable goods: +risk fragile T1 hauler: +risk Tank: -risk Inertial Stabs: -risk ATK & WTZ: -risk Cloak+MWD: -risk
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Ravenclaw2kk
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Ravenclaw2kk on 29/01/2010 16:33:20
Originally by: ACE81 Risk vs reward go both ways m8 sorry to her it didnt work for ya but thats why its risk vs reward better luck next time
Fair enough, but no real risk on the gankers side.
Originally by: Syringe I don't see anything here about using a scout...
So you need to dual box to haul?
Originally by: Smartus Maximus Are you dumb?
Of course you can't transport stuff without risk. You can take steps to minimize risk, but you can never eliminate it. Even with a T2 blockade runner, ATK, covops cloak, WTZ, there is still a chance that you'll get ganked.
Valuable goods: +risk fragile T1 hauler: +risk Tank: -risk Inertial Stabs: -risk ATK & WTZ: -risk Cloak+MWD: -risk
Not dumb, but gullable (sp?) i guess...same thing? Too many people giving out false info.. Ahh well 7 days t2 indy... bigger tank...wish i could put my account on hold and train the skill in the background till it's done
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:41:00 -
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brotips:
scout your hauler
use a tII transport fully tanked
use a bs / hac for whatever fits their cargo
take less per run
set up contracts where you cant handle the risk
sometimes **** happens
you dont need uber high sp to make it as a trader, I injected an uber noob with 500m and in 4 lazy months I had 8b out of it
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Midge Mo'yb
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Midge Mo''yb on 29/01/2010 16:45:25 i love aeternus in the butt
soo, your hauling alt is Maria Yumeno huh?
locator agents assemble! |
Syringe
Incura
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ravenclaw2kk So you need to dual box to haul?
That's what corpmates are for mate ;)
Besides, I kinda like the cut of your jib, sailor...
--------- War isn't the answer. However, the objective isn't to provide answers rather than eliminate the question. |
Ravenclaw2kk
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Posted - 2010.01.29 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gladys Pank brotips:
scout your hauler
use a tII transport fully tanked
use a bs / hac for whatever fits their cargo
take less per run
set up contracts where you cant handle the risk
sometimes **** happens
you dont need uber high sp to make it as a trader, I injected an uber noob with 500m and in 4 lazy months I had 8b out of it
scout your hauler
Good advice, thx. Markets are a bit volatile to use contracts..but its worth a go.. time to train Gallente BS up i guess, i'll see what EFT gives me for EHP with a t2 hauler b4 i do. Less per run is a good idea, time is an issue tho.
Originally by: Midge Mo'yb Edited by: Midge Mo''yb on 29/01/2010 16:45:25 i love aeternus in the butt
soo, your hauling alt is Maria Yumeno huh?
locator agents assemble!
Damn.. i knew giving battle-clinic my API was a mistake..lol. Be a man..come after my main ... but don;t expect anything more than insured t1 ships with a few t2 mods... (not a general invite to c&p..just Midge )
Yea, scouting works? There are sensor boosted ships on every damn gate nowadays to know when u r gonna get ganked. Too many active war-decs to be alt-tabbing with my main or having a corp-mate help.
Another issue is i kinda only get an hour or so on each day and i gotta try and hide it from the trouble and strife..so i have eve in a corner of my screen ready to click off..can't be having 2 clients on at the same time.
All in all it's not a great loss, miniscule in the scale of things...just frustrating as ever.
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Midge Mo'yb
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 18:10:00 -
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tbh rule of thumb, if the the cargos worth more than the ship, yourdoing it wrong imo :P
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Kerfira
Audaces Fortuna Iuvat
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:09:00 -
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If you go through suicide gank central with 300m in a 1m paper-thin ship (all T1 haulers are, no matter how you tank it), you sort of deserve to lose it... That much value in a T1 hauler, you should have split it in 6 trips (or more) at least for the most dangerous part of that pipe...
Even if there hadn't been insurance, you'd STILL have been worth ganking....
Also, no matter whether you use IStabs or not, there's not such thing as 'fast align' for an IT4...
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Taram Caldar
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: Taram Caldar on 29/01/2010 21:05:53 Edited by: Taram Caldar on 29/01/2010 21:05:23 Seriously Flying 300mil around in T1 haulers is just stupid. Buy a freaking transport. If you can fly a Itty 4 you can fly a Occator in less than 20 days.
Get one, tank it, fly AT THE KEYBOARD because even an occator can get ganked if you are afk.
And quit *****ing about being suicide ganked. Even with 9000ehp a single tempest with nothing but stock T1 fittings can 1 shot you.
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:08:00 -
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All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again. PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!! |
Foxfarm
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:10:00 -
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Password protected containers.
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Pirate God
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Pirate God on 29/01/2010 21:16:42 no amount of tank would have saved you. cloaked haulers only if you move valuable stuff. in case people arent aware of it, your ship loadout can also be scanned. we know exactly what gank we need to bring to break your tank. (you might also want to stop taking hauling advice from a forum section filled with pirates.)
edit- password protected cans do no good. they can be scooped and repackaged. |
Liz Laser
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:41:00 -
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300 million in a t1 hauler was your first mistake.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:45:00 -
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nice cloak o wait....
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CornerStoner
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Posted - 2010.01.29 22:15:00 -
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With that much in your cargo it was bound to happen. No scout = gankage.
Next time consider hiring a freighter service to do your work for you until you can afford a freighter. |
Bonafyde
Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2010.01.29 23:05:00 -
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I love tears
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Ravenclaw2kk
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Posted - 2010.01.29 23:46:00 -
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yea, i didn't think 300m was all that much to haul ATK. Courier contracts from now on then.
I will learn to play eve properly, damnit.
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