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Gonrav
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Posted - 2010.02.01 02:49:00 -
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I have recently decided on purchasing a new computer specifically to play EVE. I have 800 dollars to spend and plan on using Cyberpower PC Linkageto build a custom computer. I am willing to look at other computer companies if you have recommendations. What graphics cards would you recommend? And any tips or recommendations are welcome. I want to make sure I get it right the first time.
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Mograph
Caldari
Starscream Industries
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.02.01 12:09:00 -
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Intel i5 750 7 Series CPU
Nvidia Gts 250 (mid range one but will play any game that comes out for the next 2 years) and is fine running 2 clients at full quality. Some people will say ATI is better but Nvidia's driver support is better and overall i think they are a better package, better for video playback and multi monitor support.
I'd highly reccomend getting 2 monitors, makes playing eve running teamspeak and having a second EVE client running much easier.
and get 4gb of ram, eve is a memory hog. a
Hard drive?? up to you they are cheap 500gb is the norm really.
Case doesnt matter too much Antec do the bestest ones IMHO.
and Windows 7 - its rather good
Just what i'd go for if i was buying a new rig, others may say otherwise and thats cool - this is just my Opinion.
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Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2010.02.02 13:54:00 -
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I would suggest a pair of Intel-nVidia or AMD-ATI as they know each other better. (I'm an AMD fun (AMD-Quad) so I use an ATI VGA (4850) which runs 2 EVE clients in full graphic mode perfectly).
4GB RAM is a must if you choose 64bit OS
Windows 7 for OS (after trying it from the RC1 version there was no turning back) as Vista's graphic support is $#%@%#$.
2xX00GB HDD would be optimal for RAID (No data loss guarantee). SSD's are "techies" wet dreams atm. Windows starts at a "pod pop" (unbelievable).
After trying Dual monitor with EVE Online, there's no turning back there too (not to mention that it helps me coding-testing EVEMon).
For MB I would choose ASUS (have been burned form other companies, either south-bridge chipset instabilities or faulty elements).
Your major issue is to choose a silent case. Water-cooling isn't expensive nowadays.
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Michael Corin
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Posted - 2010.02.02 21:53:00 -
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Edited by: Michael Corin on 02/02/2010 21:55:09
Good afternoon Gonrav, I am a hardware IT Anaylst who builds gaming computers on the side. The best current bang for the buck system would be an Intel i5 Lynnfield Quad core CPU runing on the Intel LGA 1156 Socket. For the motherboard, look for an Intel P45 or P55 chipset with SATA 6 and USB 3.0 support (ASUS is one recommended brand). Stick with ATI's 5870 Cypress GPU with 1GB of DDR5. ATIs hardware and driver support are far superior to nVidia's overall. Better for video playback, and multi monitor support (ie Eyefinity). Your mobo should have 4GB of DDR3. Power Supply should be around 600W minimum. Look into OCZs new SSDs with a secondary mechanical drive for storage. You can build this for less than 800 or ~1100 with a 26" gaming TN-panel LCD with 2ms response time. As far as an OS, Windows 7 64-bit is the best option. Also, look for ram with tight timings, higher than standard clock speeds, and low voltages to give you more overclocking headroom. I recommend Antec cases as well as the newer NZXT cases as far as ATX mid towers go.
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Xechor
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Posted - 2010.02.09 14:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Michael Corin
Edited by: Michael Corin on 02/02/2010 22:12:35
Edited by: Michael Corin on 02/02/2010 22:10:02
Edited by: Michael Corin on 02/02/2010 22:09:50
Edited by: Michael Corin on 02/02/2010 22:09:27
Edited by: Michael Corin on 02/02/2010 21:55:09
...Stick with ATI's 5870 Cypress GPU with 1GB of DDR5. ATIs hardware and driver support are far superior to nVidia's overall. Better for video playback, and multi monitor support (ie Eyefinity). Your mobo should have 4GB of DDR3. Power Supply should be around 600W minimum... As far as an OS, Windows 7 64-bit is the best option... edit: ATI cards actually work better on Intel Chipsets.
Agreed with all of this, hardware enthusiast, IT geek. 5870 provides amazing windowed-mode performance and Eyefinity is beautiful. Card arrives today for me and adapter for Eyefinity on Friday. Damn DisplayPort :p
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Flauschig Katzchen
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Posted - 2010.02.25 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Corin
Edited by: Michael Corin on 02/02/2010 22:12:35
Good afternoon Gonrav, I am a hardware IT Anaylst who builds gaming computers on the side. The best current bang for the buck system would be an Intel i5 Lynnfield Quad core CPU runing on the Intel LGA 1156 Socket. For the motherboard, look for an Intel P45 or P55 chipset with SATA 6 and USB 3.0 support (ASUS is one recommended brand). Stick with ATI's 5870 Cypress GPU with 1GB of DDR5. ATIs hardware and driver support are far superior to nVidia's overall. Better for video playback, and multi monitor support (ie Eyefinity). Your mobo should have 4GB of DDR3. Power Supply should be around 600W minimum. Look into OCZs new SSDs with a secondary mechanical drive for storage. You can build this for less than 800 or ~1100 with a 26" gaming TN-panel LCD with 2ms response time. As far as an OS, Windows 7 64-bit is the best option. Also, look for ram with tight timings, higher than standard clock speeds, and low voltages to give you more overclocking headroom. I reccommend Antec or Cooler Master cases usually but am currently quite fond of the NZXT Tempest Evo edit: ATI cards actually work better on Intel Chipsets.
Is it true that enabling the SATA 6 and USB 3 will cut your 16x PCIe bandwidth in half on ASUS boards?
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
Perihelion Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.26 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Xechor
Damn DisplayPort :p
I second that 
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Mr Puddles is not impressed
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Arisin Noime
Gladiators of Rage
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.02.26 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Flauschig Katzchen
Is it true that enabling the SATA 6 and USB 3 will cut your 16x PCIe bandwidth in half on ASUS boards?
Most ASUS boards have 3 PCIe slots that can operate in one of two configurations:
16x PCIe x 2
1x PCIe x 1
and
16x PCIe x 1
4x PCIe x 2
Dependent upon your requirements. This may be what you're referring to. Can't entirely recall, and don't feel like rebooting to check the BIOS on mine.
(My PC is a Core i7 920 2.67GHz on an Asus P6T Deluxe OC board, 12GB of 1066MHz DDR3, Nvidia GTS 250 1GB, 2 x 1.5TB drives in RAID0.)
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Opertone
Caldari
SIEGE.
Reckoning.
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Posted - 2010.03.01 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Mograph
Intel i5 750 7 Series CPU
Nvidia Gts 250 (mid range one but will play any game that comes out for the next 2 years) and is fine running 2 clients at full quality. Some people will say ATI is better but Nvidia's driver support is better and overall i think they are a better package, better for video playback and multi monitor support.
Nvidia is 100% crappier
bad drivers, bad multi display TV support, terribad HDMI links... bad heating problems
only AA, AF and filtering is better on nvidia
NVIDIA is for smoothness of the picture (more antialiasing and filtering pipelines/processors) - bloom, smoke, HDR, curves
ATI is for sharp, crisp picture - (more general processors) geometries, color realism, raw processing power
Both ATI and AMD offer more RAW power for money. Lower class ATI card >> Lower class Nvidia card. Though Nvidia 80% ATI 20% of the market due to ADD spam.
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Cerlestes
Caldari
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:16:00 -
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Edited by: Cerlestes on 01/03/2010 20:18:26
Originally by: Opertone
Though Nvidia 80% ATI 20% of the market due to ADD spam.
And because of contracts with major PC-manufacturers (just like Intel).
AMD CPU's and graphic cards provide you much better cost-performance ratio.
Because of that and because of AMD cards being the best at the moment, I'd, too, reccommend you to go with an ATi Radeon HD54xx (low budget - but still awesome power - should run 2-4 max-graphic clients without a problem - should cost about 100Ç), a Radeon HD57xx (200Ç) or, if you want to have the best one, a 58xx (300-400Ç+).
Regards
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:19:00 -
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What is the range of ATI chips?
I seems to have bottleneck in my GF6600, and would like an upgrade, but not have 100 Eur to spend for only game i'm playing (for every other purpose, my video is as good as any other).
Something from a year back, that would handle 2 clients 1280x1024 with moderate settings for a fair price of 50-70 Eur?
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Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr
InterSun Freelance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 10:03:00 -
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Edited by: Solomunio Kzenig on 02/03/2010 10:04:44
All interesting information here but I'd like to ask for some specific help if you all don't mind. My 3 year old Dell Inspiron 1520 Laptop has given up the ghost on me and I need a new lap top ASAP, for playing EVE obviously  but also for college, in fact I need it within 18 days (conincidently when 1. an assignmemnt is due and 2. when one of my chars ends skill training).
Now I've allways been a fan of Alienware PC's and was giving serious consideration to buying one, see Alienware for what I was thinking of.
Basically I would like advice about what would be a good gaming laptop for a rough budget of Ç3000, that will play EVE (dual boxing) and stay as 'future proof' as possible and are my option seletions for the Alienware Laptop on the right track.
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.03 01:13:00 -
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For your convenience, I happen to fit everything (plus a cherry on top, in form of a Logitech BT mouse) into 2'230 Eur using that tool you linked. (Jut under $3k using current rates)
Basically, any modern Notebook with discrete video card will fit your needs.
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Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2010.03.03 08:23:00 -
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@Solomunio Kzenig
From my experience any laptop you'll buy now will be obsolete in 3 years time. Considering that I upgrade parts of my desktop machine every 6 months, in 3 years time-span I have a totally new PC than the one I started with. The only think I haven't changed for years is the case (Thermaltake Armor). So I recommend an above average performance laptop to get what you want and save some money too. I believe you can achieve that with a 1.500 Ç budget.
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Morbidibrom
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Posted - 2010.05.29 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Morbidibrom on 29/05/2010 14:36:28
Alienware sucks now they sold out.
Also you will want to check out the parameters of the north and south motherboard chips, these will determine your direct x capability such as 10.0 or 11.0, If you want to plan for the future i would suggest amd since they change their cpu socket specs far less often and are way cheaper, and if you do get amd they are better with ati graphic cards since they make them. Ram speed should be as high as your motherboard will allow or higher since you could under clock them for stability, lower lantency numbers are better but can become unstable but can be changed in your bios anyhow later on if you need to.
Future proofing you will need 2 or more pci express 2.0 for your video card(s) so you can link them later on if you buy another, usb 3.0 since it is super fast it's like 5 gb a second, so there will be a lot of devices for it , if not the hard drives in the near future and video cards. Don't get an on board graphics since they generally suck and inferior with cards you install, and can case problems if you have both on your motherboard depending on brand.
linux ubanu can support your hard ware and save you cash , you can use linux wine program to run games or a microsoft windows emmulator, but if you have the cash to give one of the richest and greediest men in the world go for windows7 64 bit and watch it crash and burn like vista and quite a few others :P OR if you are crafty get the new mac operating system put on via a hacked version, just google hackintosh and read up.
But the most importaint item you can buy is the motherboard, it is where everything runs off of and a higher end one will allow for future upgrades such as amd bulldoser or whatever they are going to call it. look up how many different amd sockets there are vs. intel and what is backward compatible, amd is far better.
Sata 6 will be needed for better upcoming hard drives.
You can one of two ways, cheap and works well but you will have to resell it later on 3 years or less and make another computer (just pci or pcie / or just 1 pcie 2.0 slots / just usb 2.0 /no sata 6 /intel cpu with current socket), or plan for it on motherboard purchace and upgrade on it for a much longer period of time, about 5 years or more.
I did lot of research on this and I suggest gigabyte motherboards for amd and intel, and asus for intel, certain motherboards are friendlier with certain cpu's than others. Western digital for hard drive the caviar black right now is good, g- skill for ram on new egg, ati 5770 is a great buy right now and is direct x 11.0 and a good price and later on link them when you can afford another card, with as much ram as you can afford like 1 - 2 gb.
Video cards are classed by their chips but they are made by a wide variety of manufactures all of which have poor reviews,although some are much worse than others, i suggest and ATI chip brand with a manufacturer brand EVGA or to buy that local if you can at a store that has a liberal return policy and stocks them so you can always buy thae same card again and return the broken one with the new recipt.
Corsair power supply 750 watts or more.
Make sure you can use 2 or more monitors with either a single graphics card or with the use of two cards.
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corbin1
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Posted - 2010.05.30 02:01:00 -
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After the experience I had with cyberpowerpc, I will never EVER buy from them again. Have always built mine, but their price was nice. Never again.
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Dregek
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.05.30 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: corbin1
After the experience I had with cyberpowerpc, I will never EVER buy from them again. Have always built mine, but their price was nice. Never again.
really informative that is 
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Donatella D'Tren
Harbingers of Chaos Inc.
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.05.31 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dregek
Originally by: corbin1
After the experience I had with cyberpowerpc, I will never EVER buy from them again. Have always built mine, but their price was nice. Never again.
really informative that is
Not sure about that other guy, but I had a miserable experience with CyberpowerPC also. Purchased a system and then had to wait over a month for delivery with absolutely no status updates, explanation, or a reasonable excuse. I'd stay clear of them.
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Ed Rush
Erasers inc.
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.06.02 14:17:00 -
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you can run eve with a pentium 4 + gf6600.. you wont notice much difference in i7 + whatever uber card
lag is the same. systems wont load. etc.
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Grez
Core Contingency
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Posted - 2010.06.02 14:27:00 -
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Phenom II X4 and a Radeon 5850 will do the job whilst not breaking the bank. Fill in the blanks with whatever you want.
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