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Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood	Posted - 2010.02.17 10:51:00 - [151] Always entertaining to see Sev3rance and Star Fraction in their usual musings everywhere. At any case, I'd like to welcome the new Sani Sabik Forces in the field. May your time with us be of profit and of joy. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.02.17 11:09:00 - [152] Originally by: ChipMo Originally by: Bacchanalian ..more feeble rabble... No effect? http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1269346 From the horses mouth. They are feeling the pressure and we are trimming the fat. Once the weaklings are broken, we drop the sledge hammer on the remaining core until it shatters completely. As for your alliances impact on the warzone... -7- database says 1.75B, uuhh way to go, I've done six times that myself, that's not including the billions of ISK lost at their offline pos at the weekend. - oh but yea, that's irrelevant right? End of the day ISK and K:D ratios don't mean a thing, enemy moral does. While they hold a brave face here in their own back yard local count is at all time lows. Sev3rance morale hasn't been greater, sorry. You must also realize that the thread you linked was posted by a close associate of Gelo Breen, the sev3rance defector who offlined the planet 8 moon 12 POS in KBP7 in cooperation with Star Fraction. Furthermore, didn't you dismiss sev3rance achieving their objective of removing your highsec POS because you did several times the damage than the POS was worth to their battleship fleet. So I guess Isk and K:D ratios are meaningless, or relevent, based on whether you want them to be. ---
Snakester Caldari IronPig Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.02.17 12:33:00 - [153] I agree with sui here, our morale is actually at a high atm. Alliance chat is alive with laughter. On the point of the Ironpig member oflining the pos, if SF was any good they would of used the member to make a proper plan and actually do more damage than was done. Infact Gelo had a random and sudden mindfart, got in contact with our worst enemys and he just emo'd. there was no thought or planning there. it was the conclusion to an internal argument between gelo and another alliance member that had been raging for over a year, hardly from any spying or subterfuge. To conclude on the pos matter, all ships destroyed payed insurance to ironpig wallet, Gelo calmed down from his emorage, apologised, left corp and game for star trek online, gave ironpig 10 billion isk (which is way more than was destroyed as much as was lost, my estimates put loss at around 2 billion, as 30 of the 80 ships killed were shuttles) so infact ironpig comes out isk wise on top but loosing a member, which isn't nice. and we got to kill 6 SF bombers at the pos also. On the side, werre wondering at the skills of the SF pilots who was used in this, u stole a typhoon, harbinger,Mymydon and a devoter what we killed b4 it got to empire. Why steal them ships? when there was numouros teir 2 and 3 BS there, countless recons and hacs a couple of command ships 1 phantasm (which survived bombing) and my own personal faction fitted dramial which survived the bombing. I can only conclude that when this gifthorse was handed to you on a plate you looked it in the mouth and therefore are actually worse players than i ever imagined you were, your boasting that u done so much damage causing a crippling blow etc etc when infact if you'd of slowed down and not rushed in u maybe could of LOL Snake. Sig removed, inappropriate link. ~Saint
Namelessness Amarr KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.02.17 14:18:00 - [154] It's healthy that we all return to the "GF, see you next time", business as usual. Yet trying to put a meaning, a substance into an act so simple as to wage war and combat, this poker table is getting interesting with each player laying down their cards, by now most think by guessing, or maybe peeking, but I must ask, are we playing with only one deck of cards, or did each of us bring their very own special blend of cards? Thank you for the entertainment, keep it up!
Draven Grey	Posted - 2010.02.17 14:27:00 - [155] Edited by: Draven Grey on 17/02/2010 14:28:31 Originally by: Tagami Wasp Genos as part of Severance? How much did it cost to buy you out El'Tar? I think it has been a pretty penny. The question is for how long? El'Tar, I can understand it fully that you sell your services to those pathetic excuses for pilots in (-7-). Any good pirate would take advantage of the situation like you did. How long is the contract for? I think Genos helping to assit -7- save there home is comendable.
ChipMo Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.17 18:18:00 - [156] Edited by: ChipMo on 17/02/2010 18:19:43 Originally by: Namelessness It's healthy that we all return to the "GF, see you next time", business as usual. Yet trying to put a meaning, a substance into an act so simple as to wage war and combat, this poker table is getting interesting with each player laying down their cards, by now most think by guessing, or maybe peeking, but I must ask, are we playing with only one deck of cards, or did each of us bring their very own special blend of cards? Thank you for the entertainment, keep it up! While I rarely comment after combat in the field, I will admit here I agree whole heatedly with this post. I believe we have 2 different decks of cards & we both peek at each others hehehe Ultimately though, one of us will leave the table & it won't be me
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood	Posted - 2010.02.18 16:41:00 - [157] Mmmm I trust Sev3rance is enjoying the company of our new friends in KBP now? Their outspoken pilots have gone quiet lately... Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Namelessness Amarr KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.02.18 17:58:00 - [158] Still here, probing you :)
Snakester Caldari IronPig Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.02.19 13:54:00 - [159] Originally by: Revan Neferis Mmmm I trust Sev3rance is enjoying the company of our new friends in KBP now? Their outspoken pilots have gone quiet lately... Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik I have warned Noir that your a bad payer, i hope they listen. How many billions do u still owe to other merc corps youve hired in the past?. As for us being quiet, i think you'll find weve been doing other stuff in other places our KB hasn't been more active. Snake Sig removed, inappropriate link. ~Saint
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood	Posted - 2010.02.19 16:07:00 - [160] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 19/02/2010 16:15:13 Originally by: Snakester I have warned Noir that your a bad payer Mmmm I think you must try again. That card has also been played many times. Actually its a very old one. And for your information it's not even applicable to the thread. If it was, your freighters wouldn't have been granted free passage yesterday night, as I don't make agreements with my war targets. Resuming: Your intel is failing you miserably which is not surprising. My adversaries bores me with their lack of intelligence and creativity. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Namelessness Amarr KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.02.19 16:41:00 - [161] So what's your answer Revan, was it really really thrice? or twice?... or was it never at all? Avoiding the answer to my question will be taken for and against you, that card you also play a lot, by not answering direct questions pertaining to your own heritage and identity. Not too much at stake here, maker of threats.
Snakester Caldari IronPig Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.02.19 17:03:00 - [162] Originally by: Revan Neferis If it was, your freighters wouldn't have been granted free passage yesterday night, as I don't make agreements with my war targets. I am glad u gave them permission. LOL. tbh i don't think u had a choice anyway, don't want to step on too many toes now do u. It is nice to have friends tho isn't it Sig removed, inappropriate link. ~Saint
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood	Posted - 2010.02.19 17:11:00 - [163] Originally by: Snakester Originally by: Revan Neferis If it was, your freighters wouldn't have been granted free passage yesterday night, as I don't make agreements with my war targets. I am glad u gave them permission. LOL. tbh i don't think u had a choice anyway, don't want to step on too many toes now do u. It is nice to have friends tho isn't it Not exactly what I meant Mr * winks. You continue to miss the whole point. And yes, It's nice to have friends. Undeniable statement there. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.19 17:58:00 - [164] Originally by: Suitonia Furthermore, didn't you dismiss sev3rance achieving their objective of removing your highsec POS because you did several times the damage than the POS was worth to their battleship fleet. So I guess Isk and K:D ratios are meaningless, or relevent, based on whether you want them to be. Tell me about it. I've been reading in another thread that Tower losses "don't count" when they are "privately owned". Explains why a certain faction large tower never quite made it onto your radar. True Knowledge
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood	Posted - 2010.02.20 10:10:00 - [165] Originally by: Jade Constantine Explains why a certain faction large tower never quite made it onto your radar. Ah that explains a lot.. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
JordanParey Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2010.02.21 11:13:00 - [166] I apologize for being late, but I hope that all is going well for Ms. Neferis and Ms. Constantine in their purging of slavers from civilized space. -Jordan leans back in his captain's chair and closes comm link-
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood	Posted - 2010.02.21 16:39:00 - [167] Originally by: JordanParey I apologize for being late, but I hope that all is going well for Ms. Neferis and Ms. Constantine in their purging of slavers from civilized space. -Jordan leans back in his captain's chair and closes comm link- Your words are appreciated Jordan. We all have our shares and our functions at the theatre of wars and life. Safe travels. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.21 18:18:00 - [168] Originally by: JordanParey I apologize for being late, but I hope that all is going well for Ms. Neferis and Ms. Constantine in their purging of slavers from civilized space. -Jordan leans back in his captain's chair and closes comm link- Thank you. Much appreciated. True Knowledge
Vlad Cetes Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.23 01:37:00 - [169] Update on the war? I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature.
Gigis Nooj Caldari KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.02.23 02:59:00 - [170] Originally by: Vlad Cetes Update on the war? Both crimson and Star Fraction have retracted their wars. I don't understand what all the fuss was about...
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood	Posted - 2010.02.23 03:20:00 - [171] Originally by: Gigis Nooj I don't understand what all the fuss was about... Originally by: Revan Neferis moving our operations to 0.0 space with no Concord Jurisdiction. This is all. neither do I. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Tetseptus Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.23 13:04:00 - [172] This notion that bringing allies is somehow not how wars should be fought is frankly laughable. If an organisation spends its time gathering allies to it, and then crushes its enemies with the assistance of those allies, then it has still invested time and effort, and successive good decisions, in order to build its strength. Hence, if a force subsequently finds itself crushed by said organisation and its allies, the end result is the same, and it was achieved as if those allies were members of the same organisation all along. Consider it a ærecruitmentÆ of sorts, except that both parties can be considered to have ærecruitedÆ each other, and the arrangement may be intended to be more temporary than the recruiting of direct membership. After all, the amassing of allies is a strategy available to both sides of a conflict, and if one side happens to be more successful at it, and I would argue that this is not necessarily the case in our own Providence conflict, then the victor is still as much the victor as if they had achieved the result with their own membership exclusively. More specifically, if the slavers had been more successful during their tenure at engendering the loyalty of like-minded organisations than Star Fraction has, then they may have more allies than the Star Fraction to call upon now, assuming that is indeed what you are attempting to insinuate. I am not even sure what your excuses are any more. Tetseptus, Vherokior Fighter 2nd Generation Free-Born
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood	Posted - 2010.02.23 13:41:00 - [173] Originally by: Tetseptus engendering the loyalty of like-minded organisations/quote] Your post is sensible Tetseptus with the exception of the sentence above which I find profitable to correct before more assumptions be based on it. I'm a Sani Sabik and we rule our order by dictatorship. We are a Faith not a politic organization. The way I choose to operate states as much. This said, my only "loyalty" lies with your executor by bounds of love and bounds of friendship with 2 other free-captains which I strongly like and respect. And I honour my personal connections above all. It's dangerous to assume anything beyond this. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.02.23 14:40:00 - [174] Originally by: Tetseptus More specifically, if the slavers had been more successful during their tenure at engendering the loyalty of like-minded organisations than Star Fraction has, then they may have more allies than the Star Fraction to call upon now, assuming that is indeed what you are attempting to insinuate. I am not even sure what your excuses are any more. That a member of Star Fraction considers the other groups at war with -7- to be like-minded organisations would appear to confirm the ideological malaise of the anarchists. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Mazca Lopez Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.23 15:04:00 - [175] You only need to be like-minded on one specific topic in order to form a coalition. I have known and flown with many groups where the only mantra binding us together was my enemy's enemy is my friend. you don't need a common cause, just a single common goal... my oppinion regards
Tetseptus Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.23 15:08:00 - [176] Edited by: Tetseptus on 23/02/2010 15:13:15 Conceded! Instead of 'like-minded', I had intended to say 'with a common purpose'. sighs The point is, both sides of any conflict can and should bring allies. We can quibble over the words that are used to express the fact forever, the point remains. Tetseptus, Vherokior Fighter 2nd Generation Free-Born
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.02.23 15:23:00 - [177] Originally by: Mazca Lopez You only need to be like-minded on one specific topic in order to form a coalition. I have known and flown with many groups where the only mantra binding us together was my enemy's enemy is my friend. you don't need a common cause, just a single common goal... my oppinion regards Even if your enemy's enemy has views on every other topic that are diametrically opposed to yours? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Tetseptus Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.23 15:35:00 - [178] On occasion the period of alliance may be only the duration of one battle, so in short, yes. Tetseptus, Vherokior Fighter 2nd Generation Free-Born
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood	Posted - 2010.02.23 15:35:00 - [179] I believe I left very clear my position in this regard. There is no common purpose, or common cause or common anything else other than MY personal association with Jade Constantine and 2 other free-captains there. This is the link that is. Any other speculations or words from enemies or Star Fraction alike is untrue and waste of breath. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Mazca Lopez Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.23 15:37:00 - [180] I'd make a case by case assessment.

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