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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.06 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ivan Issaccs The average Goon is irritating. The average BoB member is unseen until you make the effort to **** in their shoes.
BoB=Goon
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Brodde Dim The old BoB was feared in game. And managed to get a lot of enemies. But even with a huge portion of the 0.0 alliances teaming up, they were never defeated. I suppose a lot of people was sympathetic when a bored director decided to disband the alliance because he could. Everyone would have preferred fighting til the end.
Goons on the other hand, has never achieved anything in game. They are famous for meta gaming, forum trolling, and taking credit. Well, and being many, and still failing.
I think people just expect goons to fail, and expected BoB/IT to put up a fight. I guess you could call it a brand image if you want.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Captain ULTIMATE Let's be honest, the biggest difference between BoB and Goons is Goons are full of fatties whereas BoB is not.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Schani Kratnorr Edited by: Schani Kratnorr on 07/02/2010 21:27:16
Originally by: Biffa Buttocks I've honestly had little experience of either...
If you really want to know, then you would need to experience both.
Alliance mechanics Any comparison must focus on differences. Goonswarm alliance allowed more corporations than IT has or Band of Brothers did. The only disadvantage I can think of, is how coordination might have been adversely affected by the mess of "too many directors."
As it turned out however, the Goonswarm name was lost to an old alliancekiller - betrayal.
The posts... Goonfleet and their swarm adopted a certain posting style, and for that they have been despised. Band of Brothers were despised because their posting members revelled in envy. They played or asumed the role of "arrogant and evil," and for that they were despised and hated.
After claiming victory over the Evil BoB, many goons went out of their way to gloat, and appear arrogant and evil. Slowly forum sympathy for their organisation evaporated - it seems no one likes gloating... (a lesson well worth remembering.)
Why it is funny Goons falling on their asses, loosing their alliance name, their space and their assets is very amusing. It is amusing because that is exactly what a lot of people found amusing about the way Band of Brothers lost their name.
It is perhaps even more funny because people remember the goons gloating a whole lot about how 'they alone killed bob.' Subtly forgetting their allies and the fact that they did not in fact 'kill bob,' merely took space from them.
When it comes down to it, it is all semantics. We can discuss and argue forever, but perhaps the difference can be illustrated by a quote.
From an anonymous source:
Quote: I tell you it is hell being on Team Speak with Goons. They all talk **** constantly and now I have a headache!
Rifters at 30km on the Jita 4-4 undock.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.08 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kaigon Jane
game is secondary
How is this a bad thing?
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.08 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
game is secondary
How is this a bad thing?
well paying money to play EvE and then spending all your time trolling COAD and the numerous other EvE related forums is bad.
It's worth paying two packs of cigarettes a month so I can troll sperglords who play internet spaceships.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.09 06:32:00 -
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It's nice that this forum has zero moderation, it gives bitter alts a chance to compete with us.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.10 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Snot Shot Kayl I don't think it's blind hatred that you are witnessing here, I think its more of a clear understanding by most that goons never had anything to offer the game. Goons only showed themselves to be a group of angry nerds on a ingame rampage after the ghosts of BoB past. After Hags button click NC/PL capitalized on your rage numbers by using you as a weapon against a BoB. Once NC/PL got thier revenge they tossed you aside and wanted nothing more to do with you...
The best thing that could have ever happened to BoB was the disband. Its not often you get to build a 5,000 man Alliance from the ground up using lessons learned from past mistakes, the chance to incorporate new game mechanics, and the pick of almost any region as your foundation.
Solardrkerdamsolerdrkenbanana will never be anything more than a bunch of rage filled nerds huddled together looking for someone to vent thier RL frustration on......good luck with that.... .
OH NOES MY MORALE!!!
seriously this is a pretty weak effort
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.11 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk
Originally by: Le Cardinal hard to comprehend English.
none of what you said changes what I said. goons won without ccps help, you never have.
ccp beat us for you by patching the game. its why you didn't invade until a week before dominion and stuck to lowsec before then. the one time you did leave low sec you lost 120 dreads and then lost every subsequent capital engagement with PL except y2 which ccp has now admitted was caused by a bug.
goons beat goons by falling victim to their own stupidity and ccps new patch mechanics.
oh yea and all this stuff too:
BOBreloaded
titan pos bumping
aurora
msn
cynojamer/titan over load
titan memorial special treatment
killing titans with aggro
running broken missions with freighters and titan bridges
broken trusec running
broken 10/10 plexrunning
Pos Ferrogel expoliting
pre patch GM tipoffs
Kugu ban
unique ship awards
gross favortisim in allaince tournament prize values.
on and on and on
It took all of us to beat BOB but we beat you fair and square. BOB has, in any incarnation, yet to win a single fight without CCPs assistance. Often its taken mass outcries to stop them from giving you support (BOB reloaded). In my mind thats the biggest difference between BOB and GoonSwarm.
you can call me whatever you want - you are certainly right about me being bitter and I have been playing this game since 03 - but the only thing pathetic is cheating at video game. I'd also add that it is unfair to cast all former BOB players as guilty for the T20 thing (and the other stuff too) you have some quality members, but thats about it.
You seem pretty mad. It's just a stupid game, don't take it too seriously.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.11 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Le Cardinal
Way to go with attacking my english skills. Not everyone here is native-english speaking. I guess it just proves my point that you sir are a complete and utterly whiner on this forum.
As for you arguments. You sound awfully mad. They are history. All those you listed can probably be used against every major alliance in this game, or against single individuals within them.If you think PL, NC or any entity has done otherwise then you are blinded by your bitterness or just plain ignorant. You chose which one.
Now tell me, was this english good enough for you?
edit: fail quoting
This is the link to the t20 incident that was proven to be true. Please show me some proof that any alliance other than BoB (IT Alliance) has actually done anything dishonorable ingame.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.11 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Le Cardinal
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Le Cardinal
Way to go with attacking my english skills. Not everyone here is native-english speaking. I guess it just proves my point that you sir are a complete and utterly whiner on this forum.
As for you arguments. You sound awfully mad. They are history. All those you listed can probably be used against every major alliance in this game, or against single individuals within them.If you think PL, NC or any entity has done otherwise then you are blinded by your bitterness or just plain ignorant. You chose which one.
Now tell me, was this english good enough for you?
edit: fail quoting
This is the link to the t20 incident that was proven to be true. Please show me some proof that any alliance other than BoB (IT Alliance) has actually done anything dishonorable ingame.
If you look at my first post you will see i brought that up. It was proven true, but it was proven true that t20 broke the eula, not anyone else. If CCP had proof that single individuals in BoB broke the eula then they would have been banned. As far as i recall that didnt happen. Regardless of that, i think the t20 discussion is history. Its a boring discussion cause its been brought up a thousand times. And people like Tobruk still use it. Each time i see the name T20 i wanna throw up. We are IT Alliance now and see my first post for my point of view on that matter. Oh and 1 more thing. As for your request for proof. My point exactly. T20 broke the rules. Not BoB. I cannot prove that any other alliance have broke the eula as much as you cant prove that anyone but T20 did it.
You are part of a corporation that was a major player in Band of Brothers, nobody in this game will ever forget that your alliance had direct developer support. Nobody cares what you call your current incarnation, you will always be remembered as Band of Brothers, an alliance led by cheaters and hypocrites.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: PHPR Freighter I was in Lotka Volterra when RSF had assualted them. I have seen alot in my days. Lotka Volterra was aided by BoB, RISE, etc etc near the end when 1k+ pilots were swarming JV1. Since then I have asked all the corps/alliances if I can go shoot goons, blue or not. because I flat out hated them.
I will always root for BoB/Kenny/IT.. red or not.
You appear to be an NC pet. http://standings.morsus-mihi.org/
Also, how can you rent from ME?
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kaigon Jane Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 21:20:24
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 12/02/2010 20:55:53
Originally by: Kaigon Jane Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 20:50:02 Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 20:49:24
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar This is the most horrible post I have ever read in the history of CAOD. This is even worse than Llondon's Fallout Boy post.
I don't know whether to congratulate you for your nefarious achievement or feel true shame for your corp. If I were Molle I'd kick Maverick Navy from IT simply because of this horrible post. I guess you're IT's Battlestars.
Sorry guys, only sov holding alliances are allowed to post comment here.
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Or he can just make you pets. Might explain why MVN has no outposts while Dark-Rising, The Executives, ANZAC, x13, Nex Exercitus, and ZERO do. Enjoy paying the rent.
and you too, no sov, no posting here. Posting here is for the big boys only, not for every minor empire corps.
especially those with silly alliance names
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Elysium_Alliance
Stones. Glass houses. Yadda yadda yadda, etc, etc, etc.
dude you do not have to reply to every post. If you log in to game more often, and have had as much activity in-game as you have posting, you corp wont be as terrible as it is.
Real edit : you suck
Never stop posting.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Kushmir Never stop posting.
are you Kayl Breinhar (Bendover) boyfriend? You don't have to defend him. Get a room and sov. then come back
You suck
1/10 try again
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gummeladi Edited by: Gummeladi on 12/02/2010 23:04:13 This topic is about IT alliance and ... who are the others? Who are goons? If they're just a piece of history, just let them rip and start a thread about current Eve policy,conflicts,wars and generally, about enteties that still exists. Imo Goonswarm IS just an insignificant name in Eve. Who gives a ... buck about who they were?! So, as an answer to the thread question, IT IS one of the strongest alliance in game which occupied pretty quickly vast regions of 0.0 space, while Goonswarm WERE one of the biggest alliances in Eve that failed at preserving its vast region of 0.0 space and now they no longer exist and therefore they are of no interest to this portion of forums called CAOD.
Well done, you correctly identified that Goonswarm, as an alliance, is now dead. I'm impressed, I didn't know Romanians were so smart.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gummeladi Edited by: Gummeladi on 12/02/2010 23:22:32
Originally by: Kushmir
Well done, you correctly identified that Goonswarm, as an alliance, is now dead. I'm impressed, I didn't know Romanians were so smart. [8)
I suggest you start a thread about the subtle difference between IT Alliance and SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO Also I'd be much interested in finding out how the two enteties named above are and will influence the 0.0 state of affairs...
Oh no, he went after the state of our space empire, I am so ashamed. :cripes:
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Airborne Ninja Apparently the war for Delve started the day we lost sov.
See, IÆll have to school you on what happening in game since you solokrapforaname guys play forums rather than the game.
iT had finished with Fountain region and started the attack on Delve high end moons and in particular M0- system. Then the Goons did not pay bills so sov was dropped and Delve was a free for all, level playing field with home advantage for goons.
Without sov to protect the Goon, IT duffed up goons big time, I mean really badly mauled Goons while Goon allies all kept quiet hoping IT wonÆt notice them cowering in the corner.
Goons cried to the CEO for not using game mechanics to protect them from the nasty IT, Goons CEO knew its membership was full of ******s and went off to play with new missus while goons still think they are relevant.
Go quote some "memes"
I bet you are one of those people who think Bush was behind 9/11 or that the Holocaust didn't happen.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Bitter Juggalo
Try asking around for the story about the very first Miner II Blueprints...
Go on, I'm dying here. Please, reveal to all of caod about just how mean and evil those goonies are.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Tobruk
Originally by: Rooman
Originally by: Tobruk -snip- emo stuff - snip - you can call me whatever you want - you are certainly right about me being bitter
never stop posting, you are like herpes, the gift that keeps on giving. You are right about one thing, you sure are one butthurt emo bitter sook
Congrats Sir Molle you finally got back your space. I hope it was worth the price ^
Yeah the lost dread have already been reimbursed
He's implying that Molle paid the price of reducing his once proud ELITE PVP ALLIANCE to a carebear bloated monstrosity to achieve his "revenge".
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shamad Conde
How small should an alliance be to take on Goons/Nc/PL/SOT/Cry Havoc/Rebellion?
You forgot ZAF.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.14 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Tobruk
but what is the counter when you cant load grid? when the game only works for one side? there is none and yes, that is deeply unfair.
Funny, the blob did not bother you when you NAPed 3/4 of EVE to blob LV, KOS, FIX, BoB, Atlas, AAA, but when other adapted the same tactic to counter your blob, itÆs unfair? It never bothered you when others could not load the grid. And you not able to load grid ONCE was due to you calling in a blob to outnumber 600 pilots 2-1. How unfair.
Originally by: Tobruk
So your admitting that PL alone beat you, a 4k man alliance, in every fight except one where we couldn't actually play.
PL alone? When? You have not been alone for 3 years. Even in Fountain against IT, you had goons, SoT, ER and bunch of other pets that outnumbered IT and even with that you kept calling in NC, CH, and a bunch of other to fight for you. Yea, too bad that bad, bad ccp specifically tailored a nerf so that the ôsupperpowerö PL could not play the no-risk-PVP anymore. U mad? Too bad.
Are you a sanctioned forum warrior?
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.14 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Tobruk
good one
something like that only replace "you" with CCP and "fountain" with eve online and you get the gist of my point
Naa, we get it. YouÆre a typical bully acting all tough when others are backing you up, but as soon as you get your nose bloodied, you run home to mommy kicking and screaming how everyone is against you and how itÆs not fair.
That can be said for just about everyone who loses in this game.
For example: "You only beat us because when we got disbanded we lost sov 4."
I really only need one example to make my point.
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